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Should I upgrade?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

This is my current set up but was looking at the idea of upgrading as I am starting to notice my pc isn't able to perform on newer titles like it used to. Not sure if the cpu is necessary or not at this point as I am seeing mixed things online from people saying it runs just fine to others stating that it was holding their system back in gaming.  But also have a feeling that as the next gen systems come out it will really start to fall behind especially after watching the recent gamers nexus video

 

i5 6600k

gtx 980

16 gb ddr4

 

I was looking at possibly moving over to 

Ryzen 5 3600 ( heard the X isn't really worth it)

RTX 5700 XT (haven't had a amd card in a long time but looks like it is pretty on par with a gtx 2070 super except for its a lot cheaper and missing ray tracing but heard some people have complaints about driver issues or overheating)

Then was torn for motherboard was either looking at MSI B450 Pro Carbon or ASUS B450-F

 

I was hoping to get your guys opinions, is it worth upgrading and if so what do you think about my upgrade path?

 

Thanks,

 

 

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the gaming pro carbon is better, but you're also paying extra for wifi. pick up a B450-A Pro/gaming plus/tomahawk instead if you don't need it. If you think it doesn't perform well enough and you're willing to pay for the upgrade then it's your choice.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700@3.8Ghz Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Sapphire RX 5700 XT RAM: Qidian DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Biostar X370GT7 case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

the gaming pro carbon is better, but you're also paying extra for wifi. pick up a B450-A Pro/gaming plus/tomahawk instead if you don't need it. If you think it doesn't perform well enough and you're willing to pay for the upgrade then it's your choice.

I will definitely check those out as well and while wifi isn't necessary i thought it would be nice to have built in Bluetooth as well. 

Would you say it is worth upgrading?   

I also notice you list that you run a 5700 XT how has it performed for you any heat/driver issues? 

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5 minutes ago, striker477 said:

I also notice you list that you run a 5700 XT how has it performed for you any heat/driver issues? 

I'm using a reference card so i can't say much unless you want one yourself, which i wouldn't recommend unless you want to watercool it. Driver wise nothing major, just remember to use DDU to properly uninstall your 980's drivers before upgrading it.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700@3.8Ghz Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Sapphire RX 5700 XT RAM: Qidian DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Biostar X370GT7 case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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It's hard to quantify if an upgrade is worth it for someone else. But IMO you'd be wise to upgrade the GPU first, to see if it performs well enough without the extra upgrade of CPU/mobo.


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  • ASUS x53e  - i7 2670QM / Sony BD writer x8 / Win 10, Elemetary OS, Ubuntu/ Samsung 830 SSD
  • Lenovo G50 - 8Gb RAM - Samsung 860 Evo 250GB SSD - DVD writer
  • Displays:-
  • Philips 55 OLED 754 model
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  • HP ProLiant G6 Server SE316M1 Twin Hex Core Intel Xeon E5645 2.40GHz 48GB RAM
  • Gaming/Tablets etc:-
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  • PS4
  • Nvidia Shield TV
  • Xiaomi/Pocaphone F1 128GB 6GB RAM
  • Xiaomi Redmi Note 4
  • Lenovo k3 note
  • Windows tablet
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Posted · Original PosterOP
16 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

I'm using a reference card so i can't say much unless you want one yourself, which i wouldn't recommend unless you want to watercool it. Driver wise nothing major, just remember to use DDU to properly uninstall your 980's drivers before upgrading it.

I am looking for a open cooler design as reference always seems to be hotter and i don't like the idea of water near a pc ha-ha. 

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1 minute ago, striker477 said:

the bios might be older than the cpu and you’d need an older cpu in the computer to change the bios, i think amd is willing to send you an older cpu to do that because good customer service but i’d just get a newer motherboard that comes with a newer bios


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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 minutes ago, m0oble said:

the bios might be older than the cpu and you’d need an older cpu in the computer to change the bios, i think amd is willing to send you an older cpu to do that because good customer service but i’d just get a newer motherboard that comes with a newer bios

Part of the reason i was pulled towards this board is it features flashback which to my underanding i should be able to update it by thumb drive. 

I had thought about going with a newer motherboard but the price is substantially more and i don't see much benefit other than pci 4.0 which doesn't seem necessary. 

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59 minutes ago, striker477 said:

Part of the reason i was pulled towards this board is it features flashback which to my underanding i should be able to update it by thumb drive. 

I had thought about going with a newer motherboard but the price is substantially more and i don't see much benefit other than pci 4.0 which doesn't seem necessary. 

The MSI MAX boards support zen 2 CPUs without needing a bios update.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700@3.8Ghz Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Sapphire RX 5700 XT RAM: Qidian DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Biostar X370GT7 case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
26 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

The MSI MAX boards support zen 2 CPUs without needing a bios update.

Thank you for the suggestion, I was just checking these out and they mention having a 32 mb bios vs the Pro Carbon having a 16 MB bios. 

From what I understand the only difference is the appearance of the bios? 

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On 2/16/2020 at 5:37 PM, Herman Mcpootis said:

The MSI MAX boards support zen 2 CPUs without needing a bios update.

And they also have BIOS flashback too, so if you decided on a newer CPU you'd be fine too.


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Spoiler
  • PCs:-
  • AM4 1700 build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/paddy.stone/saved/XyXyXL
  • ASUS x53e  - i7 2670QM / Sony BD writer x8 / Win 10, Elemetary OS, Ubuntu/ Samsung 830 SSD
  • Lenovo G50 - 8Gb RAM - Samsung 860 Evo 250GB SSD - DVD writer
  • Displays:-
  • Philips 55 OLED 754 model
  • Panasonic 55" 4k TV
  • LG 29" Ultrawide
  • Storage/NAS/Servers:-
  • ESXI/test build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/paddy.stone/saved/c4z9GX
  • Main Server - ASrock AB350M Pro 4 - AMD Athlon 200GE - 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM - 240GB Crucial M500 SSD Boot Drive, running Windows 10, plex server - 4x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf HDDs.
  • Backup server - HP Proliant Gen 8 4 bay NAS running FreeNAS ZFS striped 3x3TiB WD reds
  • HP ProLiant G6 Server SE316M1 Twin Hex Core Intel Xeon E5645 2.40GHz 48GB RAM
  • Gaming/Tablets etc:-
  • Xbox One S 500GB + 2TB HDD
  • PS4
  • Nvidia Shield TV
  • Xiaomi/Pocaphone F1 128GB 6GB RAM
  • Xiaomi Redmi Note 4
  • Lenovo k3 note
  • Windows tablet
  • Unused Hardware currently :-
  • i7 6700K  b250 mobo - Thermaltake Core V21-  EVGA Supernova G2 650W Gold PSU
  • AMD phenom II 1055t / 8GB RAM / DVD writer
  • Zotac GTX 1060 6GB Amp! edition x2
  • Zotac GTX 1050 mini
  • Nvidia Shield K1 tablet

 

 

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