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Thinking of starting a 24/7 Folding@Home server

Linux is actually easier to get going than Windows especially as you don't mention having a GPU in the system

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hey guys, I have an older computer lying around literally doing nothing, and I want to put it to good use by running a folding@home server. I have a few questions:

 

- How do I get started?
- What OS should I use? (preferably Linux)

- How do I start configuring it and join the LTT team

 

If you're wondering about the specs it has

 

- Celeron G1820, 2C2T @ 2.7

-4GB DDR3 

- 250GB HDD
 

It's an old optiplex, it may not be much but it's lying around doing nothing and I want to use it to contribute to science

 


Main Rig: Custom Built: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G @ 3.6Ghz, 2x8GB Kingston Valueram @ 2666Mhz, Radeon Vega 8, Gigabyte A320M-S2H, Kingston 120Gb M.2 SSD,WD Blue 2.5 Inch 1tb HDD,Cooler Master MWE450, Aerocool CS-100

Laptop: HP ProBook X360 G1 EE: Pentium N4200 @ 1.1Ghz, 4Gb DDR3 1600Mhz 128Gb SSD
NAS Server: Dell OptiPlex 7010: Dual core Celeron G1610 @ 2.6Ghz 4GB DDR3 Ram, 500GB Single HDD

Mothballed Optiplex: Dual core Celeron G1810, 4Gb Ram, 250Gb HDD

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It won't pay for itself in electricity bill though, CPUs are just slow in general for Folding compared to GPUs (laptop 1060 here generates 5x the points per unit time of an 8750H), let alone a CPU that's meant for tasks that don't need performance.


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

It won't pay for itself in electricity bill though, CPUs are just slow in general for Folding compared to GPUs (laptop 1060 here generates 5x the points per unit time of an 8750H), let alone a CPU that's meant for tasks that don't need performance.

This doesn't answer my question(s)


Main Rig: Custom Built: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G @ 3.6Ghz, 2x8GB Kingston Valueram @ 2666Mhz, Radeon Vega 8, Gigabyte A320M-S2H, Kingston 120Gb M.2 SSD,WD Blue 2.5 Inch 1tb HDD,Cooler Master MWE450, Aerocool CS-100

Laptop: HP ProBook X360 G1 EE: Pentium N4200 @ 1.1Ghz, 4Gb DDR3 1600Mhz 128Gb SSD
NAS Server: Dell OptiPlex 7010: Dual core Celeron G1610 @ 2.6Ghz 4GB DDR3 Ram, 500GB Single HDD

Mothballed Optiplex: Dual core Celeron G1810, 4Gb Ram, 250Gb HDD

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8 hours ago, NZgamer said:

- How do I get started?

Install it

 

8 hours ago, NZgamer said:

- What OS should I use? (preferably Linux)

Linux is more troublesome than Windows, but both are fine

heck even MacOS is supported

 

8 hours ago, NZgamer said:

- How do I start configuring it and join the LTT team

Set team number in configurations to 223518

 


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

Install it

 

Linux is more troublesome than Windows, but both are fine

heck even MacOS is supported

 

Set team number in configurations to 223518

 

Thank you

 

I think I will use Windows after reading the thread. I wanted to use Linux because Windows is a hassle to install 


Main Rig: Custom Built: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G @ 3.6Ghz, 2x8GB Kingston Valueram @ 2666Mhz, Radeon Vega 8, Gigabyte A320M-S2H, Kingston 120Gb M.2 SSD,WD Blue 2.5 Inch 1tb HDD,Cooler Master MWE450, Aerocool CS-100

Laptop: HP ProBook X360 G1 EE: Pentium N4200 @ 1.1Ghz, 4Gb DDR3 1600Mhz 128Gb SSD
NAS Server: Dell OptiPlex 7010: Dual core Celeron G1610 @ 2.6Ghz 4GB DDR3 Ram, 500GB Single HDD

Mothballed Optiplex: Dual core Celeron G1810, 4Gb Ram, 250Gb HDD

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Posted · Original PosterOP
27 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

Linux is actually easier to get going than Windows especially as you don't mention having a GPU in the system

Thank you! I think I will use Linux.


Main Rig: Custom Built: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G @ 3.6Ghz, 2x8GB Kingston Valueram @ 2666Mhz, Radeon Vega 8, Gigabyte A320M-S2H, Kingston 120Gb M.2 SSD,WD Blue 2.5 Inch 1tb HDD,Cooler Master MWE450, Aerocool CS-100

Laptop: HP ProBook X360 G1 EE: Pentium N4200 @ 1.1Ghz, 4Gb DDR3 1600Mhz 128Gb SSD
NAS Server: Dell OptiPlex 7010: Dual core Celeron G1610 @ 2.6Ghz 4GB DDR3 Ram, 500GB Single HDD

Mothballed Optiplex: Dual core Celeron G1810, 4Gb Ram, 250Gb HDD

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I came back to folding at home a couple of weeks ago with a new PC i built. 
I was amazed at the difference in performance since I did it 6 years ago.

 

While I was folding with my new PC, I did not manage to sell any used components of my old pc, so I started reading a little bit more about folding and other things.

I live in Canada, so it's quite cold, and I read in many places that the actual watt consumption of a computer is the output of heat. I said to myself... meh, why not use those watts on components I can't sell instead of my wall heater?
So I setup my old computer as a space heater. A good 650 watts are going in and it's doing it's job as a heater :D  plus it's helping science! I'll shut it down when it's summer time and bring it back up next winter until it dies I guess :)

 

My new PC is running the advanced client for folding at home and it's connected to my old PC. I just followed the setup process that's on their website. Wasn't much trouble.

 

I'm taking the time to write all that because, after I setup old computer #1, I also setup old computer #2 and ended up shuting it down after a day.

The reason is the performance is not really worth it on old computer #2.
New computer is ryzen 3700x + 2070 super. Gives about 1 600k points per day
Old computer #1 is 4770k overclocked at 4.5Ghz + 2x 780 ti. Gives about 550k points per day but only about 30k are from the CPU.

Old computer #2 wasn't able to complete a work unit before it expired. Was about 1.8k points per day.

 

Your CPU is much better than the CPU from my old computer #2, but I don't expect you to crunch that many numbers with it, especially without a GPU.

I heard that boinc is a much better source of number crunching for CPU, you might want to check it out.

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On 2/14/2020 at 5:36 PM, NZgamer said:

This doesn't answer my question(s)

whether it does or it doesn't, it's true. CPU folding is horrifically inefficient in terms of power used per point, and time per point, and with a celeron you may take more than a day to complete work units.

Ultimately, the purpose of FAH is to turn work units around as fast as possible, as each work unit then generates a follow-on unit. Work units that are taking a long time to complete may be re-assigned (for example, the LTT video where we recently got a shoutout featured a work unit that was eventually completed after ~2 days, and in that time FAH re-tasked the work unit out because it was taking a long while to complete).

What this means is that work unit was effectively lost effort both for LTT's machine and for the wider FAH project, as someone else had already completed the work.

 

 

The celeron would be perfectly fine, on the other hand, to run as a processor for a GPU-based folding system. the good news is that Nvidia Turing performs very well on FAH compared to it's predecessors and even something like a 1660Ti can net in more than 1 million points per day.


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