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Canon Announces EOS R5 with '8K' Video

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Posted · Original PosterOP

From DPReview:

 

https://www.dpreview.com/news/8022128608/canon-announces-development-of-eos-r5-with-8k-video-and-20fps-shooting

 

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Canon has announced the development of the R5 - a flagship RF-mount mirrorless camera with built-in image stabilization, capable of 8K video and 20fps stills shooting. Beyond that, details are scant, but the new camera is expected to be released at some point this year.

Key specifications (so far):

  • Newly designed CMOS sensor (likely 40MP)
  • In-camera image stabilization
  • 20fps continuous shooting (silent shutter)
  • 12ps continuous shooting (mechanical shutter)
  • 8K video capture
  • Twin card slots

There is a presser attached to the article, which is currently scant on details right now. However, what we do know is that the camera has in-body image stabilization, a new CMOS sensor, 20fps continuous shooting in silent mode, 12fps continuous shooting with the mechanical shutter, and dual card slots. But the new show stopper is the claimed 8K video capabilities; DPReview has the belief right now that the 8K is actually a 2x oversampled 4K video. This also means that the sensor is likely in the 40+MP range in order to do 8K. No word on how Canon is managing the data rates and heat from 8K video capture.

 

Otherwise, the body looks like an evolution of the current EOS R platform; the tilt-flip rear LCD screen is there, but Canon has dropped the divisive multi-function touchbar for a more tradtional AF joystick.

 

Also being announced at the same time are 7 RF mount lenses, including a RF 100-500 F4.5-7.1 L IS USM, a RF 24-105mm F4-7.1 IS STM kit lens, and a pair of teleconverters. Samples of the R5, the 100-500mm, and two new RF Extenders (1.4X and 2X) are expected to be shown at the WPPI show in Las Vegas, and the CP+ show in Yokohama, Japan, both scheduled to take place later this month, so I would expect more details to become available then.

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so that's how long it took canon to compete with sony's a7r lineage ._.

 

still cool though. especially with the introduction of IBIS, so when combined with a lens with IS it might be able to handle perpendicular-plane body shakes

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

so that's how long it took canon to compete with sony's a7r lineage ._.

 

still cool though. especially with the introduction of IBIS, so when combined with a lens with IS it might be able to handle perpendicular-plane body shakes

The R5 from what's being said about the rumours indicates that this will be an absolutely killer camera, with an interesting party trick in the 8K video capabilities. One of the rumours going around is that the R5 will also do 4K @ 120p:

https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-eos-r5-specifications/

 

So far, the rumours have proven to be mostly accurate... just need to see the price and the exact details.

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It definitely looks really interesting so far. It took a while for Canon to really catch up but I do hope it's good enough to get some competition going. 

 

With all that said, still a lot of unanswered questions, so we'll have to wait for details. 


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Canon is actually doing improvements to the video capabilities, finally!


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If it is actual 8k video at reasonable frame rates, this might make me finally splurge for a real camera again instead of just the convenience of "good enough for most things" in the iPhone.

 

And yes, I know…not even close to being the same target audiences…but here I am!

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15 hours ago, justpoet said:

If it is actual 8k video at reasonable frame rates, this might make me finally splurge for a real camera again instead of just the convenience of "good enough for most things" in the iPhone.

 

And yes, I know…not even close to being the same target audiences…but here I am!

From what's being speculated, based upon the estimated readout rates of the the new 1D X Mark III, Canon seems to have a data readout rate of their new sensors at about 1.2Gbps on a per pixel basis, as the 1D X Mark III has RAW 5.5K 60p video output.

 

That means the R5 should be good for 8K 30p, assuming the R5 is using a fast card format; I don't think anything less than CFExpress would be appropriate here, considering the fps spec for stills.

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19 hours ago, justpoet said:

If it is actual 8k video at reasonable frame rates, this might make me finally splurge for a real camera again instead of just the convenience of "good enough for most things" in the iPhone.

 

And yes, I know…not even close to being the same target audiences…but here I am!

Resolution should not be anywhere near your top concern for a video camera. It seems nice on paper but there's a lot more to a camera than resolution and high res shit composition is still shit composition 


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22 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Resolution should not be anywhere near your top concern for a video camera. It seems nice on paper but there's a lot more to a camera than resolution and high res shit composition is still shit composition 

could be nice for a few other purposes when used properly though (e.g. reference gathering, single-shot multicam, etc)

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2 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Resolution should not be anywhere near your top concern for a video camera. It seems nice on paper but there's a lot more to a camera than resolution and high res shit composition is still shit composition 

I think that's an overly simplistic way to look at it.  Resolution is at or near the top of your list of concerns based on what kind of output you're producing.  Delivering in 1080p?  Shooting in 4K gives you all sorts of fun re-framing options in post or very sharp 1080p output when the entire 4K is scaled down.  Delivering in 4K?  Well if you want the same options as before, you need a higher resolution video camera.  This is where 6K and 8K cameras really help.

 

IF Canon actually delivers a usable 8K/30 mirrorless that's affordable, it will change everything.  This is a big deal for video guys.  Specially since Canon's glass is basically second to no one's, other than the silly-expensive Zeiss stuff.


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25 minutes ago, jasonvp said:

I think that's an overly simplistic way to look at it.  Resolution is at or near the top of your list of concerns based on what kind of output you're producing.  Delivering in 1080p?  Shooting in 4K gives you all sorts of fun re-framing options in post or very sharp 1080p output when the entire 4K is scaled down.  Delivering in 4K?  Well if you want the same options as before, you need a higher resolution video camera.  This is where 6K and 8K cameras really help.

 

IF Canon actually delivers a usable 8K/30 mirrorless that's affordable, it will change everything.  This is a big deal for video guys.  Specially since Canon's glass is basically second to no one's, other than the silly-expensive Zeiss stuff.

Yeah but if you really care about the resolution that much you are going to get a RED or like camera. Sure it's nice to see it on the mainstream but I doubt Cannon will bring new tech at this point. Sony and Panasonic already have cameras on the market with tech that outshines all of Cannons mirrorlesses. Imagine 8K/30 but with a shitty codec, or terrible color science, rolling shutter artifacts, with a terrible UI 


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6 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

 Sony and Panasonic already have cameras on the market with tech that outshines all of Cannons mirrorlesses. 

Ah, someone that hates Canon.  Got it.  The "anti"-fanboi.  Check.  Gotcha classified.

 

OK, which Sony and/or Panasonic cameras are you referring to?

 

 


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4 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Resolution should not be anywhere near your top concern for a video camera. It seems nice on paper but there's a lot more to a camera than resolution and high res shit composition is still shit composition 

Resolution matters, both in video and in still shots, for picking up details.  I expect any DSLR from Cannon/Nikon/etc to have decent color, though need small adjustments via RAW editing.  Which one is the best is often subjective, or based on what type of content you most often shoot (portraits, sports, landscapes, etc).  I love that you also just flat out said I've got shit composition so shouldn't care, when in fact I've got a photo and video and design background, though most of what I do is still camera work to show fine details of things, or nature photography.

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19 hours ago, justpoet said:

Resolution matters, both in video and in still shots, for picking up details.  I expect any DSLR from Cannon/Nikon/etc to have decent color, though need small adjustments via RAW editing.  Which one is the best is often subjective, or based on what type of content you most often shoot (portraits, sports, landscapes, etc).  I love that you also just flat out said I've got shit composition so shouldn't care, when in fact I've got a photo and video and design background, though most of what I do is still camera work to show fine details of things, or nature photography.

Nah I was saying many people just look at resolution as the only selling point. Also I wasn’t saying you had shit composition I was saying if someone did a new camera won’t fix that


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