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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi,

So I got a RTX 2070 graphics card in christmas present and I tought I would get like 400+ fps in all low settings in fortnite, but im only getting like 180 stable fps.

I have:

  • i5 7400
  • RAM: 16 gb HyperX DDR4 Fury
  • a old asus motherboard
  • a old powersupply but it still works fine.
  • Good air cooling system in a h500i case
  • 1240 tb ssd

I think I need to upgrade my processor but idk what I should upgrade to.

Please can someone help me.

I have a budget around 500 dollars.

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5 minutes ago, NoiceZ said:

I think I need to upgrade my processor but idk what I should upgrade to.

Please can someone help me.

since used prices for the i7-7700 are terrible, Ryzen is the best option here.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $359.97
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-10 12:03 EST-0500  

 

6 minutes ago, NoiceZ said:

a old powersupply but it still works fine.

power supplies can die with old age, just like the rest of us. I wouldn't trust it forever.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FdRFf7/corsair-cx-2017-550w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020121-na


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

EVGA G3 threadSeasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Yea, your cpu is definitely a bottleneck. But before upgrading, ask yourself, is 180fps enough? Do you actually have 180hz+ monitor to view all those frames? There's no point upgrading if you cannot see the benefit.

If you have to upgrade, an MSI b450 board (tomahawk and gaming max are very good) and a R 3600, or a 3700x if you actually wanna do some work like editing vids of blendering. I cannot recommend intel cuz the upgrade path is non existent ATM 


  • CPU
    i3-6100
  • Motherboard
    Gigabyte H110m ds2
  • RAM
    16gb 2400MHz Corsair Vengence
  • GPU
    1660 super
  • Storage
    500GB 860 EVO & 1TB seagate hdd
  • PSU
    Corsair CX750
  • Audio
    Superlux HD660 Reference Closed Back Headphones
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 (1907)
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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, 8lec said:

Yea, your cpu is definitely a bottleneck. But before upgrading, ask yourself, is 180fps enough? Do you actually have 180hz+ monitor to view all those frames? There's no point upgrading if you cannot see the benefit.

If you have to upgrade, an MSI b450 board (tomahawk and gaming max are very good) and a R 3600, or a 3700x if you actually wanna do some work like editing vids of blendering. I cannot recommend intel cuz the upgrade path is non existent ATM 

Yes i need at least 240 fps stable, bcuz im playing fortnite competetively.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
6 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

since used prices for the i7-7700 are terrible, Ryzen is the best option here.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $359.97
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-10 12:03 EST-0500  

 

power supplies can die with old age, just like the rest of us. I wouldn't trust it forever.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FdRFf7/corsair-cx-2017-550w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020121-na

Thanks I will check that CPU and Motherboard! But is Ryzen better than Intel?

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Thanks I will check that CPU and Motherboard! But is Ryzen better than Intel?

better? value wise, yes. Performance wise, Intel has a tiny lead. AMD also has an upgrade path to new processors this year which Intel does not, which I endorse as a much better feature.


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

EVGA G3 threadSeasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Just now, NoiceZ said:

Yes i need at least 240 fps stable, bcuz im playing fortnite competetively.

his recommendation is spot on. Although for the PSU I'll advise you to wait until you find a banger deal (650w - 800w, gold, $80-$90) cuz buying a higher end psu will give you peace of mind and it will probably last longer and have better warranty. You also will not have to worry about power requirements cuz 99% of the systems will run easily on 600w of power

6 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

since used prices for the i7-7700 are terrible, Ryzen is the best option here.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $359.97
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-10 12:03 EST-0500  

 

power supplies can die with old age, just like the rest of us. I wouldn't trust it forever.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FdRFf7/corsair-cx-2017-550w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020121-na

 


  • CPU
    i3-6100
  • Motherboard
    Gigabyte H110m ds2
  • RAM
    16gb 2400MHz Corsair Vengence
  • GPU
    1660 super
  • Storage
    500GB 860 EVO & 1TB seagate hdd
  • PSU
    Corsair CX750
  • Audio
    Superlux HD660 Reference Closed Back Headphones
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 (1907)
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CPU:i7 9700k 5047.5Mhz All Cores Mobo: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC, RAM:Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 OC 3467Mhz GPU:MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR 8GB OC Storage:Samsung SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB, 2x SSD ADATA PRO SP900 256GB, HDD WD CB 2TB, HDD GREEN 2TB PSU: Seasonic focus plus 750w Gold Display(s): 1st: LG 27UK650-W, 4K, IPS, HDR10, 10bit(8bit + A-FRC). 2nd: Samsung 24" LED Monitor (SE390), Cooling:Fazn CPU Cooler Aero 120T Push/pull Corsair ML PRO Fans Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB mx Rapidfire Mouse:Razer Naga Chroma  Headset: Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker Case: Modded Case Inverted, 5 intake 120mm, one exhaust 120mm.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

better? value wise, yes. Performance wise, Intel has a tiny lead. AMD also has an upgrade path to new processors this year which Intel does not, which I endorse as a much better feature.

Ok so if i buy a processor from Ryzen for like 300 dollars would it perform better than a processor for 300 dollars from intel?

 

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2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

better? value wise, yes. Performance wise, Intel has a tiny lead. AMD also has an upgrade path to new processors this year which Intel does not, which I endorse as a much better feature.

I 100% agree with him. Ryzen 4000 will probably beat Intel in performance. The R 4600 be the best gaming cpu for 200 bucks. You'll have a great upgrade path.


  • CPU
    i3-6100
  • Motherboard
    Gigabyte H110m ds2
  • RAM
    16gb 2400MHz Corsair Vengence
  • GPU
    1660 super
  • Storage
    500GB 860 EVO & 1TB seagate hdd
  • PSU
    Corsair CX750
  • Audio
    Superlux HD660 Reference Closed Back Headphones
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 (1907)
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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, 8lec said:

his recommendation is spot on. Although for the PSU I'll advise you to wait until you find a banger deal (650w - 800w, gold, $80-$90) cuz buying a higher end psu will give you peace of mind and it will probably last longer and have better warranty. You also will not have to worry about power requirements cuz 99% of the systems will run easily on 600w of power

 

Ok thanks!

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Just now, NoiceZ said:

Ok so if i buy a processor from Ryzen for like 300 dollars would it perform better than a processor for 300 dollars from intel?

 

yes


  • CPU
    i3-6100
  • Motherboard
    Gigabyte H110m ds2
  • RAM
    16gb 2400MHz Corsair Vengence
  • GPU
    1660 super
  • Storage
    500GB 860 EVO & 1TB seagate hdd
  • PSU
    Corsair CX750
  • Audio
    Superlux HD660 Reference Closed Back Headphones
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 (1907)
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5 minutes ago, NoiceZ said:

But is Ryzen better than Intel?

no, not for me anyways


CPU:i7 9700k 5047.5Mhz All Cores Mobo: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC, RAM:Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 OC 3467Mhz GPU:MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR 8GB OC Storage:Samsung SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB, 2x SSD ADATA PRO SP900 256GB, HDD WD CB 2TB, HDD GREEN 2TB PSU: Seasonic focus plus 750w Gold Display(s): 1st: LG 27UK650-W, 4K, IPS, HDR10, 10bit(8bit + A-FRC). 2nd: Samsung 24" LED Monitor (SE390), Cooling:Fazn CPU Cooler Aero 120T Push/pull Corsair ML PRO Fans Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB mx Rapidfire Mouse:Razer Naga Chroma  Headset: Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker Case: Modded Case Inverted, 5 intake 120mm, one exhaust 120mm.

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  • CPU
    i3-6100
  • Motherboard
    Gigabyte H110m ds2
  • RAM
    16gb 2400MHz Corsair Vengence
  • GPU
    1660 super
  • Storage
    500GB 860 EVO & 1TB seagate hdd
  • PSU
    Corsair CX750
  • Audio
    Superlux HD660 Reference Closed Back Headphones
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 (1907)
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Not for all his life, lol


CPU:i7 9700k 5047.5Mhz All Cores Mobo: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC, RAM:Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 OC 3467Mhz GPU:MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR 8GB OC Storage:Samsung SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB, 2x SSD ADATA PRO SP900 256GB, HDD WD CB 2TB, HDD GREEN 2TB PSU: Seasonic focus plus 750w Gold Display(s): 1st: LG 27UK650-W, 4K, IPS, HDR10, 10bit(8bit + A-FRC). 2nd: Samsung 24" LED Monitor (SE390), Cooling:Fazn CPU Cooler Aero 120T Push/pull Corsair ML PRO Fans Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB mx Rapidfire Mouse:Razer Naga Chroma  Headset: Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker Case: Modded Case Inverted, 5 intake 120mm, one exhaust 120mm.

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Not for all his life, lol

well, ryzen will most prolly beat intel with zen 3. and it will be a drop in upgrade with a b450 board, but on intel he'll have to buy a new one.


  • CPU
    i3-6100
  • Motherboard
    Gigabyte H110m ds2
  • RAM
    16gb 2400MHz Corsair Vengence
  • GPU
    1660 super
  • Storage
    500GB 860 EVO & 1TB seagate hdd
  • PSU
    Corsair CX750
  • Audio
    Superlux HD660 Reference Closed Back Headphones
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 (1907)
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6 minutes ago, NoiceZ said:

Ok so if i buy a processor from Ryzen for like 300 dollars would it perform better than a processor for 300 dollars from intel?

 

for $300 from Intel you can't even afford an i7 which has the same amount of cores and threads. You're stuck with a locked i5.


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

EVGA G3 threadSeasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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3 minutes ago, 8lec said:

well, ryzen will most prolly beat intel with zen 3. and it will be a drop in upgrade with a b450 board, but on intel he'll have to buy a new one.

You must be very young, we wait more than a decade for AMD to beat INTEL :D


CPU:i7 9700k 5047.5Mhz All Cores Mobo: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC, RAM:Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 OC 3467Mhz GPU:MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR 8GB OC Storage:Samsung SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB, 2x SSD ADATA PRO SP900 256GB, HDD WD CB 2TB, HDD GREEN 2TB PSU: Seasonic focus plus 750w Gold Display(s): 1st: LG 27UK650-W, 4K, IPS, HDR10, 10bit(8bit + A-FRC). 2nd: Samsung 24" LED Monitor (SE390), Cooling:Fazn CPU Cooler Aero 120T Push/pull Corsair ML PRO Fans Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB mx Rapidfire Mouse:Razer Naga Chroma  Headset: Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker Case: Modded Case Inverted, 5 intake 120mm, one exhaust 120mm.

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17 minutes ago, NoiceZ said:

Yes i need at least 240 fps stable, bcuz im playing fortnite competetively.

Be ready to fork up for an i9 9900K and a 2080 Ti then lol


Workstation Rig:
CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @5.0ghz  |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3333mhz CL15 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: beQuiet! Dark Power Pro 11 80Plus Platinum  |~| Boot: Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Acer Predator X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
 
Personal Use Rig:
CPU: Intel Core i9 9900 @4.75ghz |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z390M Gaming mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3400mhzCL15 Viper Steel |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition RTX 2080 Ti |~| PSU: beQuiet! Straight Power 11 80Plus Gold  |~|  Boot:  Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2x2TB SanDisk SSD Ultra 3D |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Viotek GN34CB 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.


HTPC / "Console of the house":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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