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GTX 1650 Super different models, why?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Greetings! ?

I was wondering if there's a real, significant difference between the next 3 gpu's all of them GTX 1650 Super by Asus, the TUF version has slightly more "boost clock" but that's it, can't find any other difference besides the obvious like the appearence, size, fans, connectors and Phoenix ver doesn't have backplate, Rog Strix version has some little RBG in the "republic of gamers" logo, i'm asking coz maybe one model runs hotter, noisy, have malfunctions or something undesirable.
I'm going to get one very soon and so far TUF is my choice, i know RX580 is cheaper and better value card but which GTX 1650 super would you pick from the next list?  ps: i'll check rx580 and 5500 XT anyway, ty.

- ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER OC Edition 4GB GDDR6
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/TUF-GTX1650S-O4G-GAMING/

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- ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER Advanced Edition 4GB GDDR6
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/ROG-STRIX-GTX1650S-A4G-GAMING/

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- ASUS Phoenix GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER OC Edition 4GB GDDR6

https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/PH-GTX1650S-O4G/overview/

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https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N165SWF2OC-4GD#kf


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I like the gigabyte design.

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Also, why Asus?

 

can't find reviews of these exact cards, but similar coolers are used on other 16 series GPUs so we can extrapolate from that

 

The Phoenix worked ok on the 1660, so as long as Asus don't cut down something in their cooler it should fare ok.

 

No reviews on the TUF, but small (80mm, others look like 90mm) fans typically generate higher pitch noise and the more sealed off shroud design harms airflow. I won't consider it just by looking at it.

 

Strix card should be overkill, which is a huge problem when we're talking about an affordable GPU. Imo overkill is only good for the high end, where you can't buy a higher end product with that bit of extra money anyway.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Also, why Asus?

can't find reviews of these exact cards, but similar coolers are used on other 16 series GPUs so we can extrapolate from that

 

The Phoenix worked ok on the 1660, so as long as Asus don't cut down something in their cooler it should fare ok.

No reviews on the TUF, but small (80mm, others look like 90mm) fans typically generate higher pitch noise and the more sealed off shroud design harms airflow. I won't consider it just by looking at it.

Strix card should be overkill, which is a huge problem when we're talking about an affordable GPU. Imo overkill is only good for the high end, where you can't buy a higher end product with that bit of extra money anyway.
 

The online store where i get my stuff from doesn't have EVGA, MSI or anyother GTX1650 Super, just Asus and Gigabyte, btw what do you think about that one? the gigabyte in the last picture. All the asus (and the gigabyte) cards have pretty much the same price, about $200-210 us dollars (yeah, thats what mexicans like myself must pay for low tier hardware) Local stores sell GTX1650 Super for $250-260 US.

So Phoenix series are OK, the TUF could be noisy and less efficient due small/compact design (higher temp i guess) and Strix is meh, i can buy any coz the price difference is about 2-3 dollars, that's why im so confused ???

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Unless there is a design you really like, just buy whichever is cheapest. The 1660 Super is pretty low on power consumption, so cooler design isn't a huge deal. The only time it would make a difference is if you're constrained on space.


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35 minutes ago, TacosBurritos said:

i can buy any coz the price difference is about 2-3 dollars,

then the best deal of the bunch is the Strix, period.

 

35 minutes ago, TacosBurritos said:

btw what do you think about that one? the gigabyte in the last picture.

Maybe better than the TUF but not an outstanding card by any means. Gigabyte's low end (in the product stack) dual fan cards are always in the line of "good enough to replace the stock blower but that's it" category. Exception being the RX Vega 2 fan model, but they dont offer anything better either so that might as well be their flagship.


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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
14 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

then the best deal of the bunch is the Strix, period.

 

Maybe better than the TUF but not an outstanding card by any means. Gigabyte's low end (in the product stack) dual fan cards are always in the line of "good enough to replace the stock blower but that's it" category. Exception being the RX Vega 2 fan model, but they dont offer anything better either so that might as well be their flagship.

 Awesome, i'll get the strix

Only problem is the connectors, my old Benq secondary monitors gonna be useless since both dont have any HDMI just vga and dvi-d, my main monitor is OK it has hdmi.
What about those cheap "dvi to hdmi" adapters/converter? do you think that could work to keep my 2nd monitors? 
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1 minute ago, TacosBurritos said:

What about those cheap "dvi to hdmi" adapters/converter? do you think that could work to keep my 2nd monitors? 

These should be limited to 1080p 60Hz only, good enough for secondary monitors I guess

 

and btw how many secondary monitors do you have? The Strix card only has 2 HDMI ports, if you have 3 or 4 displays you'll need to use the DP ports.


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Desktop benching:

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SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
14 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

Unless there is a design you really like, just buy whichever is cheapest. The 1660 Super is pretty low on power consumption, so cooler design isn't a huge deal. The only time it would make a difference is if you're constrained on space.

ohhh no, not the 1660 i wish lol, can't afford such thing here in mexico, well yeah i could but damn, what's the price in USA for 1660 super? 240 us? well here i have to pay 280-300 ikr that sucks. plus gotta change my old psu.

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2 hours ago, TacosBurritos said:

ohhh no, not the 1660 i wish lol, can't afford such thing here in mexico, well yeah i could but damn, what's the price in USA for 1660 super? 240 us? well here i have to pay 280-300 ikr that sucks. plus gotta change my old psu.

My mistake, but my point remains the same. The 1650 Super requires even less power.

 

I don't know prices in Mexico are, but you might consider an RX 470 or 570. They're both better than the 1650 Super, but cheaper in the US.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

All right, i'll check gtx 1650 s availability, one day you can see a good deal with huge stock then next day price goes up for 10-30 dollars and no units available, that's mexico.

Rog Strix ver is the choice, if can't find it next week imma get any other ver, i know im making a big deal bout low tier gpu but as i said, im paying $220 (there's no better price here believe me) plus new PSU.

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On 2/5/2020 at 7:11 PM, Jurrunio said:

Also, why Asus?

I can understand them having a single-fan GPU in their lineup for ITX cases, but two dual-fan cards that are essentially the same, except one costs a lot because it's ROG Strix? That's dumb.


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14 minutes ago, weeblord said:

I can understand them having a single-fan GPU in their lineup for ITX cases, but two dual-fan cards that are essentially the same, except one costs a lot because it's ROG Strix? That's dumb.

They are not the same, the TUF is noticeably worse in multiple cases (same case for 5700XT TUF and Strix, both 3 fan but one's terrible)


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

They are not the same, the TUF is noticeably worse in multiple cases (same case for 5700XT TUF and Strix, both 3 fan but one's terrible)

.....then why have the TUF edition at all?


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6 minutes ago, weeblord said:

.....then why have the TUF edition at all?

TUF branding is a collab between Asus and other companies making RAM, fans, coolers etc and they should all share the same yellow mustard camouflage design. This doesn't happen with anything ROG


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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13 minutes ago, weeblord said:

Which means that the products will be inferior to Asus's purebred (ROG) lineup? lol

 

they chose to make it like that, idk why


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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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