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i7-4790K + 1080ti at 1440p

i used to have a 4.3 ghz 4770K with a GTX 1080...then i got this nicer 1080ti and the CPU wasn't enough...

At 1440p open world games like ghost recon wildlands, Far cry 5, any assassin's creed...even in Battlefield 5 on ultra the CPU was toped out and the 1080ti was at 85% to 95% usage and little stutters here and there.

 

Get the card, but plan a system upgrade... Ryzen 3600 is a nice upgrade and won't cost much.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hey guys,

 

I have this setup

CPU - Intel i7-4790k

GPU - EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW3

RAM - 16gb (2x8) dual channel PNY Anarchy DDR3 1600mhz

SSD - Samsung EVO 250gb

Monitor - Acer Predator XB272 250hz 1080p g-sync

 

I had EVGA 980ti and was playing on 1080p. Upgraded to 1080ti and noticed that I now I have higher frame rates at almost every game but my GPU load now is about 50% and CPU load is about 50%

In DayZ on deathmatch servers I noticed that my new 1080ti underperform and showing really low FPS. 980ti was faster in that particular game

 

I was thinking to switch to 1440p to put more load on graphic card but not sure if it will resolve stuttering, low gpu usage and low fps issues

Should I upgrade to 1440p monitor or should I just stick to the 1080p monitor.

I don't really care that much about resolution I just want high fps and no stuttering

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4 minutes ago, denkorea said:

I had EVGA 980ti and was playing on 1080p. Upgraded to 1080ti and noticed that I now I have higher frame rates at almost every game but my GPU load now is about 50% and CPU load is about 50%

 

do you have higher framerates and bad stuttering or just high framerates?


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i used to have a 4.3 ghz 4770K with a GTX 1080...then i got this nicer 1080ti and the CPU wasn't enough...

At 1440p open world games like ghost recon wildlands, Far cry 5, any assassin's creed...even in Battlefield 5 on ultra the CPU was toped out and the 1080ti was at 85% to 95% usage and little stutters here and there.

 

Get the card, but plan a system upgrade... Ryzen 3600 is a nice upgrade and won't cost much.


| CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 5.0ghz - 1.3v  Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING  CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 |
| GPU: MSI GTX 1080Ti Gaming X Trio 2ghz OC  RAM: 16GB T-Force Delta RGB 3000mhz |
| Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Rift S

 

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in almost every game I played (Metro Exodus, PUBG, Quake Champions, GTA5, Witcher 3) I had high FPS and no stuttering

However, in DayZ on heavy populated servers and in Star Wars Fallen Order  I had some stutterings. 980ti performed better in these 2 games

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Just now, denkorea said:

in almost every game I played (Metro Exodus, PUBG, Quake Champions, GTA5, Witcher 3) I had high FPS and no stuttering

However, in DayZ on heavy populated servers and in Star Wars Fallen Order  I had some stutterings. 980ti performed better in these 2 games

get the 1440p monitor and then save up for a platform upgrade.


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| GPU: MSI GTX 1080Ti Gaming X Trio 2ghz OC  RAM: 16GB T-Force Delta RGB 3000mhz |
| Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Rift S

 

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3 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

i used to have a 4.3 ghz 4770K with a GTX 1080...then i got this nicer 1080ti and the CPU wasn't enough...

Open world games like ghost recon wildlands, Far cry 5, any assassin's creed...even in Battlefield 5 on ultra the CPU was toped out and the 1080ti was at 85% to 95% usage and little stutters here and there.

 

Get the card, but plan a system upgrade... Ryzen 3600 is a nice upgrade and won't cost much.

I have no extra budget to replace MB and CPU , so I wanna utilize my existing setup to 100%

I still have that 980ti so now I am thinking to sell 1080ti OR to buy 1440p g-sync monitor

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Just now, denkorea said:

I have no extra budget to replace MB and CPU , so I wanna utilize my existing setup to 100%

I still have that 980ti so now I am thinking to sell it OR to buy 1440p g-sync monitor

980ti is great for 1080p but will struggle to meat high demanding games at 1440p unless you severely compromise on some settings...

So yes, get the monitor and overclock your CPU :)

 


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Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

get the 1440p monitor and then save up for a platform upgrade.

won't the CPU be a bottleneck in this case? I don't wanna buy a 1440p monitor to see the same low GPU or/and CPU usage and no particular FPS inrease

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I can stick to 1080p gaming thats fine  - I want to utilize my setup closer to 100%

I feel like 1080ti made things worse on 1080p

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12 minutes ago, denkorea said:

won't the CPU be a bottleneck in this case? I don't wanna buy a 1440p monitor to see the same low GPU or/and CPU usage and no particular FPS inrease

of course it will...how in the world would increasing the resolution increase your FPS?!

You'll get the same or lower FPS...but it will look much better on a 27'' 1440p monitor.

 

If you want better FPS, you need a new CPU...i would recommend 9700K or Ryzen 5 3600


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| Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Rift S

 

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2 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

of course it will...how in the world would increasing the resolution increase your FPS?!

You'll get the same or lower FPS...but it will look much better on a 27'' 1440p monitor.

 

If you want better FPS, you need a new CPU...i would recommend 9700K or Ryzen 5 3600

by putting more load on GPU for 1440p?

 

Well if I need to change CPU with MB and most likely a memory - I d rather stick to 1080p gaming then

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11 minutes ago, denkorea said:

by putting more load on GPU for 1440p?

 

Well if I need to change CPU with MB and most likely a memory - I d rather stick to 1080p gaming then

your framerates would be more even and the GPU would have more load...but that does not mean you'd get higher FPS...it's the oposite still.

 

Yes stick with high refresh 1080p monitor and get the faster CPU you can afford...if you're after max FPS.


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1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

your framerates would be more even and the GPU would have more load...but that does not mean you'd get higher FPS...it's the oposite still.

 

Yes stick with high refresh 1080p monitor and get the faster CPU you can afford...if you're after max FPS.

ok so will I get same framerates or at least in almost every game 100+fps with HIGH settings? (not fan of ULTRA/EPIC settings)
I wanna make sure my CPU or Memory won't bottleneck 1080ti in 1440p

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7 minutes ago, denkorea said:

ok so will I get same framerates or at least in almost every game 100+fps with HIGH settings? (not fan of ULTRA/EPIC settings)
I wanna make sure my CPU or Memory won't bottleneck 1080ti in 1440p

Yes it will bottleneck it also at 1440p...like i said in my first post...i know i used to have that CPU with my 1080ti and 1440p monitor...that's why i answered your thread in the first place.

 

For example...if you play Red dead redemption 2...at 1440p...it will eat your CPU alive...pretty sure you'd still leave at least 20% performance on the table vs a 8700K/9700K/ 3600/3600X/3700X....

 

YOU NEED A NEW CPU unless you aim to play games at 4K 60FPS...

Your CPU is what determine your performance now cause it IS the part that is limiting your 1080ti to reach better performance (FPS)...do you understand?


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Look...think of it this way:

Your CPU is what determines your FRAMERATES...the GPU is what determine how PRETTY and high resolution these frames can be rendered at.

 

 


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1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

Look...think of it this way:

Your CPU is what determines your FRAMERATES...the GPU is what determine how PRETTY and high resolution these frames can be rendered at.

 

 

ok thanks

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3 minutes ago, denkorea said:

ok thanks

what i said above is true, until the GPU becomes the bottleneck again...in which case then it'll render as many frames as it can and this is what will limit your FPS now.

But in your case, at 1080p the CPU is your limiting part ALL the time...at 1440p it would be like HALF the time...or so.

But your frames won't be any higher...only more ''consistent''...for example instead of being anywhere from 75FPS to 155FPS then they would be more like 72FPS to 86FPS for example...but nicer frames...higher resolution.

 

Generaly, a rendering that is limited by the GPU ressources feel a lot smoother and nicer than a CPU limited scenario...which will have your performance all over the place and insert micro stutters at times here and there.


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You can get the monitor and hope it bandaids the issue. Won’t last much longer. Need a real cpu to keep up with modern cards. 
Only reason I sold my 4790k. Cod and bf games needed more. 
New cpu gave me the option to stay at 1080p and enjoy more frames. 


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58 minutes ago, denkorea said:

I have no extra budget to replace MB and CPU , so I wanna utilize my existing setup to 100%

I still have that 980ti so now I am thinking to sell 1080ti OR to buy 1440p g-sync monitor

I have a 980 Ti and a 4790k at 4.7GHz. It works great for my 1440p 144hz G-Sync monitor. Of course I rarely play games that aren't at least 2 years old. I don't see the point in paying $60+ when I can get a better experience with something older.

 

G-Sync is excellent, but if you get one, make sure to change your global value in the Nvidia Control Panel to either V-Sync or FastSync. Otherwise, you'll end up with tearing if you ever exceed 144fps. That's something guides always forget.


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1 hour ago, JoostinOnline said:

I have a 980 Ti and a 4790k at 4.7GHz. It works great for my 1440p 144hz G-Sync monitor. Of course I rarely play games that aren't at least 2 years old. I don't see the point in paying $60+ when I can get a better experience with something older.

 

G-Sync is excellent, but if you get one, make sure to change your global value in the Nvidia Control Panel to either V-Sync or FastSync. Otherwise, you'll end up with tearing if you ever exceed 144fps. That's something guides always forget.

how did you overclock your CPU to 4.7? BIOS?

 

I have v-sync enabled in Nvidia panel but disabled in games - is that alright? Have no issues with tearing

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so what I just did is I overclocked my CPU to 4.4Ghz and I got much better frames in DayZ. Less lags, less stuterring.
So far so good. The problem was in CPU as some people mentioned

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Try overclock and tightened your system RAM as well. I get nice boost from 1600mhz to 1800mhz in GTA:V and few others open world games.


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8 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Try overclock and tightened your system RAM as well. I get nice boost from 1600mhz to 1800mhz in GTA:V and few others open world games.

thanks :)

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2 hours ago, denkorea said:

how did you overclock your CPU to 4.7? BIOS?

 

I have v-sync enabled in Nvidia panel but disabled in games - is that alright? Have no issues with tearing

Yeah. I increased the voltage to 1.3V (use trial and error with it) and the multiplier to 47.  And yes, that's correct.

10 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Try overclock and tightened your system RAM as well. I get nice boost from 1600mhz to 1800mhz in GTA:V and few others open world games.

Overclocking RAM doesn't really help for DDR3. It wasn't until DDR4 that it started to make a difference.


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1 hour ago, JoostinOnline said:

Yeah. I increased the voltage to 1.3V (use trial and error with it) and the multiplier to 47.  And yes, that's correct.

Overclocking RAM doesn't really help for DDR3. It wasn't until DDR4 that it started to make a difference.

So I got 1.420V and 47 multiplier
Total is 4.7Ghz . Idle temp ~40C all cores


Is that good?

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