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the CPU yes, but the other parts vary from "questionable" to "OMG why". Mobo is also not listed.

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I use this for mainly for gaming and occasional rendering(single frame).
Going for 3700X over the 3600X just for future proofing.... want to use this CPU for at least 5 years. budget is not an issue.
Am i making the right decision? or i should save money and go for the 3600X

 

GPU - MSI RTX 2060 gamin Z, PSU - antec vp550 v2, SSD-970 evo 500gb, 16gb(8x2)3200mhz corsair RAM, 1TB HD+ 2TB HDD

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the CPU yes, but the other parts vary from "questionable" to "OMG why". Mobo is also not listed.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3700x

CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x,  MOBO: ASUS TUF X570 Gaming Pro wifi, CPU cooler: Noctua U12a RAM: Gskill Ripjaws V @3600mhz,  GPU: Asus Tuf RTX OC 3080 PSU: Seasonic Focus GX850 CASE: Lian Li Lancool 2 Mesh Storage: 500 GB Inland Premium M.2,  Sandisk Ultra Plus II 256 GB & 120 GB

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Well, if money is not a problem... 3700x, those 2 extra cores are nice for rendering stuff, but there will be no noticible difference in gaming, may i suggest a 3600 with a 2070 super or 2060 super, idk the prices where you live or if u already have the 2060

Main rig: CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X cooled by a Noctua NH-U14S; Mem: 16 GB(2x8) G.Skill TridentZ White 3200 MHz; GPU: EVGA RTX 2070 XC; MOBO: MSI B450 Tomahawk; Storage: XPG Spectrix S40G M.2 512GB SSD; Kingston A400 480GB SSD; 1TB Western Digital Blue HDD; PSU: Corsair CX750M Semi-modular (80+ bronze); CASE: Thermaltake Commander C36.

 

Secondary rig: CPU: Intel Core i7 4790 @3.60GHz(Turbo @4.00GHz) cooled by Corsair H60; Mem: G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 16GB(4x4) OC@2133MHz (11-11-11-30 (1.6V)); GPU: None(for now); MOBO: Gigabyte Z87-HD3; Storage:HyperX 120GB; PSU: Thermaltake SmarT series 750w (80+ bronze); CASE: Thermaltake Chaser A41.

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To me it seems the system is thought to be almost explicitly for gaming, so saving on the cpu (Ryzen 3600 non X) and increasing the budget for the gpu, memory and a suitable mainboard (unless any of it is already owned) would be the better deal.

Upgrading the cpu within the next 5 years if necessary shouldn't be an issue.

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I recommnd sitting on a 1600 AF for 90bucks til the 16 core comes down in price, but if ur buying a cpu to keep for 5 years, 3700x.

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

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5 hours ago, Mateus Montemor said:

Well, if money is not a problem... 3700x, those 2 extra cores are nice for rendering stuff, but there will be no noticible difference in gaming, may i suggest a 3600 with a 2070 super or 2060 super, idk the prices where you live or if u already have the 2060

i already have the 2060.... got it when it launched an year back. Currently on an i5 6600(NON K)(bought when skylake launched). just the cpu  and motherboard im upgrading

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Sorry for the confusion guys... i didnt mention that i already own these parts -
MSI RTX 2060 gamin Z, PSU - Antec vp550 v2, SSD-970 evo 500gb, 16gb(8x2)3200mhz corsair RAM, 1TB HD+ 2TB HDD, i5 6600 on a gigabyte b150m d3h

Its just the just the cpu  and motherboard im upgrading

 

I heard that new gen consoles have cpus close or better performing than the 3600X... thats why i jumped up to the 3700X

 

Purchasing CPU now and I am planning to use my gpu for the next 2-3 years. Am i on the right upgrade path?

 

 

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10 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

the CPU yes, but the other parts vary from "questionable" to "OMG why". Mobo is also not listed.

Please do explain the questionable and omg why ?

I didnt mention the board as it doesnt matter .... its the gigabyte b150m d3h anyways

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12 minutes ago, Sykes said:

Please do explain the questionable and omg why ?

I didnt mention the board as it doesnt matter .... its the gigabyte b150m d3h anyways

Samsung SSDs are overpriced, premium mid range cards are overpriced, PSU is quite bad on the contrary.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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52 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Samsung SSDs are overpriced, premium mid range cards are overpriced, PSU is quite bad on the contrary.

Im in india and here SSDs are priced almost double.... we get half the capacity for what a person pays in the US. I got mine from the US for around 100$ 5-6mnths back
I agree about the GPUs! i payed around 520USD for my 2060 in march 2019. I called up ASUS, MSI, gigabyte ....Companies wont honor warranty if i dont purchase from indian distributors.. was stuck!.
Thats the world i live in m8 :D
About the PSU its a Delta electronics unit...back then sounded like a good unit for the money and has served me well.... should i get the cx 450? dont want to harm my new stuff just for a few bucks.

uh yea the 3700X is 385$ here

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10 minutes ago, Sykes said:

Im in india and here SSDs are priced almost double.... we get half the capacity for what a person pays in the US. I got mine from the US for around 100$ 5-6mnths back

doesn't matter, Samsung SSDs just cost more compared to other brands even if the specs are similar.

 

11 minutes ago, Sykes said:

uh yea the 3700X is 385$ here

That's not too outrageous, back in 1st gen Ryzen days they are like double what they're worth while Intel's about 10-15% more expensive only compared to US prices

 

11 minutes ago, Sykes said:

should i get the cx 450? dont want to harm my new stuff just for a few bucks.

The grey label one? 

 

You can probably find better options here

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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16 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Okay will keep the SSD thing in mind for future purchases!

Yes ryzen not too overpriced....thats the gud thing

 

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The grey label one? 

yes! the grey label one... or i cud get the cx550?

 

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You can probably find better options here

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

 

which tier shud i go for? keeping in mind value for money

 

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4 minutes ago, Sykes said:

yes! the grey label one... or i cud get the cx550?

CX550 even better

 

5 minutes ago, Sykes said:

which tier shud i go for? keeping in mind value for money

tier B or higher

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

CX550 even better

 

tier B or higher

okay so cx 550 it is!

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