rtx 2060 My gaming performance goes different from what i expected

[XandersWithS]

7 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

The RAM speed definitely affects Ryzen quite a lot... 3200 or 3600 is the sweet spot for 2nd and 3rd Gen Ryzen. (but only if it's decent timings, like 16-16-16 or 16-18-18)

Oh okay i will think about buying a new ram. From 2666 to 3000, maybe i only can reach 2800. But is it not weird if with this setup i cant play games like csgo and other game smoothly. Same as u said before, My IPC cant handle rtx 2060 very well. I see from youtube all thread gone 3.75-3.8GHz. and with 3200Mhz ram. This is only a little regret but still if i bought a new cpu, this setup will go better

[BTGbullseye]

8 hours ago, XandersWithS said:

From 2666 to 3000, maybe i only can reach 2800.

Why would you only be able to reach 2800? The chip natively supports 2933, and is perfectly capable of using 3200 and 3600, as is the motherboard. As for pricing, 3200 is generally cheaper than 2800, and about the same as 3000.

[XandersWithS]

43 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Why would you only be able to reach 2800? The chip natively supports 2933, and is perfectly capable of using 3200 and 3600, as is the motherboard. As for pricing, 3200 is generally cheaper than 2800, and about the same as 3000.

Normal OC, but still i dont know this chipset is still playable but kinda stutter when browsing like scrolling, idk its a internet or else. But photoshop is kinda slow and choppy

[XandersWithS]

3 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Why would you only be able to reach 2800? The chip natively supports 2933, and is perfectly capable of using 3200 and 3600, as is the motherboard. As for pricing, 3200 is generally cheaper than 2800, and about the same as 3000.

May i ask? U said stuttering at game/task. I also feel at photoshop and normal task too. Is it the cpu or Storage? 

[XandersWithS]

5 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Why would you only be able to reach 2800? The chip natively supports 2933, and is perfectly capable of using 3200 and 3600, as is the motherboard. As for pricing, 3200 is generally cheaper than 2800, and about the same as 3000.

Can i give u detail about that like a video in Google drive? 

[XandersWithS]

On 2/15/2020 at 10:31 PM, BTGbullseye said:

Yes. There are many reports of going from a 2600 to a 3600 getting rid of microstutter, and general choppiness.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1SCE73LLue54QjX3IqO5OV11eXBNlZgvE?usp=sharing

This is a little video about my problem. I cant read that number and percentage to tell whats wrong.

 

ROTR and csgo is old videos before DDU. It much better much still the same. There is a drop. Maybe R6S is a mixed CPU GPU game u can check it. If u need something, i can tell u more about that

[BTGbullseye]

38 minutes ago, XandersWithS said:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1SCE73LLue54QjX3IqO5OV11eXBNlZgvE?usp=sharing

This is a little video about my problem. I cant read that number and percentage to tell whats wrong.

 

ROTR and csgo is old videos before DDU. It much better much still the same. There is a drop. Maybe R6S is a mixed CPU GPU game u can check it. If u need something, i can tell u more about that

The problem with the first two videos is that they're only in 30FPS, so nothing is visible. SotTR looks like it's hitting a texture loading point, and overfilling the VRAM... This can cause slowdowns pretty significantly. (I'd suggest turning down the texture setting by a notch or two)

 

Google is still processing the R6S video, so I can't watch it just yet. I'll check back in just a couple hours after work to see if anything is visible.

[BTGbullseye]

4 hours ago, XandersWithS said:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1SCE73LLue54QjX3IqO5OV11eXBNlZgvE?usp=sharing

This is a little video about my problem. I cant read that number and percentage to tell whats wrong.

It looks like the CPU isn't boosting above 3.6GHz, and neither the CPU or GPU are being fully utilized... I know that's a known issue with a fix, but I can't for the life of me remember what it is.

[XandersWithS]

9 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

It looks like the CPU isn't boosting above 3.6GHz, and neither the CPU or GPU are being fully utilized... I know that's a known issue with a fix, but I can't for the life of me remember what it is.

Yes i know it that kinda strange. Still i need to do OC and handle the heat itself. Maybe the heat and the ram speed blocked my performance

[BTGbullseye]

17 minutes ago, XandersWithS said:

Yes i know it that kinda strange. Still i need to do OC and handle the heat itself. Maybe the heat and the ram speed blocked my performance

There is no heat issue at all with your system. It is not an issue. Just turn on PBO in the BIOS, and ensure you have your RAM's XMP profile enabled.

[XandersWithS]

1 hour ago, BTGbullseye said:

There is no heat issue at all with your system. It is not an issue. Just turn on PBO in the BIOS, and ensure you have your RAM's XMP profile enabled.

But for sure, i need to upgrade the cpu for all gaming?? , i cant play a cpu intensive game or mixed smoothly. Btw is it normal if gpu only do base clock. not boosting stable? at some games. 

 

Maybe i will try do PBO

[BTGbullseye]

17 minutes ago, XandersWithS said:

But for sure, i need to upgrade the cpu for all gaming?? , i cant play a cpu intensive game or mixed smoothly. Btw is it normal if gpu only do base clock. not boosting stable? at some games. 

That also is not normal, but is definitely possible if it's not being stressed well enough.

18 minutes ago, XandersWithS said:

Maybe i will try do PBO

Do. It will definitely help.

[XandersWithS]

5 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

That also is not normal, but is definitely possible if it's not being stressed well enough.

Do. It will definitely help.

Can a motherboard hold back my CPU works? first thing is ram holding back my cpu. For sure. This is my upgrade plan

Ryzen 5 3600, new ram, new motherboards

Gskill TridentZ 3200MHz. B450 Aorus Elite or B450 Tomahawk MAX.

[BTGbullseye]

3 hours ago, XandersWithS said:

Can a motherboard hold back my CPU works?

Not really.

3 hours ago, XandersWithS said:

B450 Aorus Elite or B450 Tomahawk MAX.

You really don't need to upgrade the motherboard at all when you're only going for a 3600. The only thing the B450 has over the B350 is the slightly better PBO profile. (which really isn't that big of a deal)

[XandersWithS]

14 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Not really.

You really don't need to upgrade the motherboard at all when you're only going for a 3600. The only thing the B450 has over the B350 is the slightly better PBO profile. (which really isn't that big of a deal)

Does everything from my problem is from cpu? 

[XandersWithS]

22 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Not really.

You really don't need to upgrade the motherboard at all when you're only going for a 3600. The only thing the B450 has over the B350 is the slightly better PBO profile. (which really isn't that big of a deal)

This pc has survived from 5 times from electricity outage. Suddenly turned off, then i must boot it up again. Open my game, then fps is still high, but the display is superstutter it like u play with 15fps display. But after restarting/playing on the next day, the stutter was gone. I thought that problem is thing from when my psu must get the electricity back after the incident 

[BTGbullseye]

9 hours ago, XandersWithS said:

Does everything from my problem is from cpu? 

CPU and RAM. Motherboard can wait until you're ready to upgrade to a 4th or 5th gen Ryzen CPU.

1 hour ago, XandersWithS said:

This pc has survived from 5 times from electricity outage. Suddenly turned off, then i must boot it up again. Open my game, then fps is still high, but the display is superstutter it like u play with 15fps display. But after restarting/playing on the next day, the stutter was gone. I thought that problem is thing from when my psu must get the electricity back after the incident 

That's unlikely to have caused a hardware issue, unless you have a Tier E or D PSU. (Yours is Tier C, and has a higher than average ripple overload, which just means dirtier power when you get close to max power draw, which you definitely aren't doing with your hardware)

It's most likely caused my Windows having to go through and fix the problems caused by the sudden loss of power that prevented Windows from being able to shut down properly. It's not likely to be caused by a hardware issue.

[Ebony Falcon]

Download heaven and benchmark your gpu

[XandersWithS]

2 hours ago, Ebony Falcon said:

Download heaven and benchmark your gpu

heaven? what is that? 

[XandersWithS]

2 hours ago, Ebony Falcon said:

Download heaven and benchmark your gpu

From 3dmark the score was the same with other. 

[XandersWithS]

16 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

CPU and RAM. Motherboard can wait until you're ready to upgrade to a 4th or 5th gen Ryzen CPU.

That's unlikely to have caused a hardware issue, unless you have a Tier E or D PSU. (Yours is Tier C, and has a higher than average ripple overload, which just means dirtier power when you get close to max power draw, which you definitely aren't doing with your hardware)

It's most likely caused my Windows having to go through and fix the problems caused by the sudden loss of power that prevented Windows from being able to shut down properly. It's not likely to be caused by a hardware issue.

Sorry out of context, still cant find very much about that thing. Setting already at high (need to stressful the gpu than the cpu). But the graph of the cpu is spiky or thats normal?

[BTGbullseye]

On 2/27/2020 at 3:43 AM, XandersWithS said:

Sorry out of context, still cant find very much about that thing. Setting already at high (need to stressful the gpu than the cpu). But the graph of the cpu is spiky or thats normal?

That's normal.

[XandersWithS]

8 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

That's normal.

oh thats good, but still for the IPC, my friend using R5 1600 and GTX 1080 Ti, he needs to OC to 3.8GHz and 3200 to 3400mhz then now he upgrading to 3700X. all normal for him now. 

 

Yea my ram is blocked my full cpu perf. 

[XandersWithS]

On 1/31/2020 at 8:12 PM, Nayr438 said:

Based on your 2 threads. The 2600 doesn't have a fast enough IPC to deliver what you are after, you will need to either upgrade to a Ryzen 3600+ or something like a Intel 9600k, both should perform similar.

 

If your wanting the absolute best experience go Intel and overclock it.

 

Ryzen does like fast ram and usually anything from 3200 to 3600 is recommended, If you have stuttering this can help out quite a bit, I think it mostly comes down to the game / task.

 

 

Now my thread only half of it. Disabled the SMT then the game is feels high fps but little rubberbanding. But overall good (R6S) Still dont know CSGO and R6S.

But from what i see from ryzen thread, it better than intel. Usage more useful for multitasking. Maybe 3600 and 3200MHz can help my problem

[XandersWithS]

On 2/23/2020 at 11:50 PM, BTGbullseye said:

The RAM speed definitely affects Ryzen quite a lot... 3200 or 3600 is the sweet spot for 2nd and 3rd Gen Ryzen. (but only if it's decent timings, like 16-16-16 or 16-18-18)

Sorry for bringing this topic again, so upgrading to 3600 with a good cooler to stay it from throttling. Also ram 3200MHz and B450 Tomahawk will get rid all of my microstutter while doing game/task... I hope so. Frametime is around 7.0ms. Maybe i will check if there is spike on my framtime/cpu usage.

 

Kinda scared if i already upgrade to that plan, the problem is still there. So, sorry if i asking about this topic again. Need a best thinking to do this