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30 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Sell your existing CPU + MOBO + RAM for around $150. And purchase something like this instead. Trust me, it would be a way better upgrade instead of upgrading to a 4790.

 

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (14nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($85.00) The Ryzen 5 1600 AF is available on amazon.com for $85. It is basically a Ryzen 5 2600 with first gen IMC. It is based on 12nm.
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($64.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $229.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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17 minutes ago, Wimpo said:

Indonesia

 

Its still doing fine, but its time to upgrade because i've been keeping this processor since day 1.

 

Right?But its not that easy to sell stuff on my country. its massive downhill, im now at the edge between spending more for modern hardware, or spending less for an okay hardware. Besides, the majority of my pc was just playing some games. But for video editing its not always

Hang onto your shit, then! Watch the market, and if you see a big hike in prices, sell.

But save up. I would personally see what Zen2 prices are looking like once Zen 3 gets closer. It's gonna be a good drop.

(The $200 msrp 2600 went down to a standard $165 where it sat for a long time, then dropped to $110-120 once Zen 2 hit. Great savings. I'd expect something similar!)

So just as the title said, i've never been confused about pc until now

Basically i want to save a lot more money to upgrade, the only problem here was it worth it?

also this is for future proof ,let say 3 more years.

 

I originally going upgrade to Ryzen 2000 series platform, specifically 2600

but with that ,its gonna cost me a lot more meaning i have to buy a new ram and motherboard

 

You name the price, but i've found i7 4790 for about 140$ (in my country) 

is it a good deal should i take it? and is it future proof for about 3 or more years?

 

One more thing, Im currently running 8GB DDR3 1600mhz and planning to increase it to 16GB DDR3

 

Here's my current Spec:

i5 4440 3.1Ghz

Gigabyte H97 Gaming-3

8GB DDR3 1600Mhz Gskill Sniper 

Corsair H40 (yeah i know, just go with it)

520W 80+ Bronze Seasonic

SSD and Harddrive 

NZXT H440

 

The 2000 Ryzen upgrade

Ryzen 2600

B450M Gaming-3

16GB DDR4 3000Mhz Gskill Ripjaw V

 

Let me know what you guys think...

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How much more would you be paying the the 2600 together with the new ram and mobo?

I will complain about high prices in Norway given the oportunity.

 

 

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Just now, FL4XY said:

How much more would you be paying the the 2600 together with the new ram and mobo?

About 300-320$ 

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And what do you use your PC for primarily?

 

Gaming-wise the performance of a 2600 vs a 4790 will be close enough that it shouldn't matter to much, and in that case I would recommend just going for the 4790, save $150 and save up for an upgrade for you GPU.

 

In terms of applications and work use, the 2600 has 2 more cores (4 more threads) as well as newer technology, meaning it will last far longer if the purpose is to future proof. 

I will complain about high prices in Norway given the oportunity.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Wimpo said:

You name the price, but i've found i7 4790 for about 140$ (in my country) 

Not a bad deal for a 4790, that's about the normal going rate. The 4770 and 4790S are also viable upgrades, with only some slightly lower clock speeds.

 

7 minutes ago, Wimpo said:

and is it future proof for about 3 or more years?

nothing is future proof, unless you've got a crystal ball.

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2 minutes ago, FL4XY said:

And what do you use your PC for primarily?

 

Gaming-wise the performance of a 2600 vs a 4790 will be close enough that it shouldn't matter to much, and in that case I would recommend just going for the 4790, save $150 and save up for an upgrade for you GPU.

 

In terms of applications and work use, the 2600 has 2 more cores (4 more threads) as well as newer technology, meaning it will last far longer if the purpose is to future proof. 

Mostly gaming but light video editing is a thing for me aswell, but probaly i use it for gaming more often

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Not a bad deal for a 4790, that's about the normal going rate. The 4770 and 4790S are also viable upgrades, with only some slightly lower clock speeds.

 

nothing is future proof, unless you've got a crystal ball.

So im fine aslong i have a crystal ball

 

Thank you both of you, really help me a lot 

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22 minutes ago, Wimpo said:

So just as the title said, i've never been confused about pc until now

Basically i want to save a lot more money to upgrade, the only problem here was it worth it?

also this is for future proof ,let say 3 more years.

 

I originally going upgrade to Ryzen 2000 series platform, specifically 2600

but with that ,its gonna cost me a lot more meaning i have to buy a new ram and motherboard

 

You name the price, but i've found i7 4790 for about 140$ (in my country) 

is it a good deal should i take it? and is it future proof for about 3 or more years?

 

One more thing, Im currently running 8GB DDR3 1600mhz and planning to increase it to 16GB DDR3

 

Here's my current Spec:

i5 4440 3.1Ghz

Gigabyte H97 Gaming-3

8GB DDR3 1600Mhz Gskill Sniper 

Corsair H60 (yeah i know, just go with it)

520W 80+ Bronze Seasonic

SSD and Harddrive 

NZXT H440

 

The 2000 Ryzen upgrade

Ryzen 2600

B450M Gaming-3

16GB DDR4 3000Mhz Gskill Ripjaw V

 

Let me know what you guys think...

I wouldn't upgrade to a 4790 unless it was the unlocked 4790K which would allow for some overclocking. 

But then you would also need a Z97 mobo so then I would be better to go for a R5 2600.

140$ for a 4790 seems expensive imo but that could be due to difference in the used market in your country. 

What will you use your PC for ?

What GPU and monitor do you have ?

The 4790 is still decent but nothing is really future proof but I believe that asking 6 year old CPU to hold another 3 years is asking a lot. 

I would probably keep the i5 4440 for a few more months so I could buy an all new PC.

The R5 2600 is now 2 years old but still decent as it is a 6c/12t CPU so it should last 3 years or more.

 

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8 minutes ago, Boyohan said:

I wouldn't upgrade to a 4790 unless it was the unlocked 4790K which would allow for some overclocking. 

But then you would also need a Z97 mobo so then I would be better to go for a R5 2600.

140$ for a 4790 seems expensive imo but that could be due to difference in the used market in your country. 

What will you use your PC for ?

What GPU and monitor do you have ?

The 4790 is still decent but nothing is really future proof but I believe that asking 6 year old CPU to hold another 3 years is asking a lot. 

I would probably keep the i5 4440 for a few more months so I could buy an all new PC.

The R5 2600 is now 2 years old but still decent as it is a 6c/12t CPU so it should last 3 years or more.

 

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Well i was thinking exactly like that, but my point is that i have to save a lot as possible for a performance that was worth it for at least 3 or more years 

 

The majority of the pc that im currently using its just to game, but for a video editing is still a thing, not a must 

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The R5 1600 AF is $85 USD new and offers 90% the performance of a 2600 for $25 less and is compatible with 400 and 500 series boards if you decide to upgrade to a 3000 series or better later on. I've got one for my friends PC build, it can run very cool and power efficient with a pretty basic cooler or it can overclock 90% as good as a 2600 would overclock. It's basically a 2600 that was binned a little lower for some reason, maybe it didn't meet some criteria during validation?

 

Anyway, it's a stellar deal and a cheap way to get into the AM4 platform. If you hunt for deals you can pull it off for cheaper than you might think, 16GB of DDR4 3200 can be had for $60 and under if you find a sale at the right time, if you can find an AM4 board with a damaged socket retaining mechanism but undamaged pins under it you can get those for 1/2 regular price or even less and then it's a $8 USD CPU socket from Aliexpress to snap a part off and snap it onto the motherboard.

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What country are you from?

 

I look at it this way: Is your 4440 unable to operate in a way that's currently survivable?

 

Without an unlocked CPU/MOBO combo the 4xxx series is making less and less sense these days, imo.

Save your $140, assume you can maybe get $80-100ish out of a cash sale for the 4440/MOBO/RAM setup. There is $220-240ish.

Save a bit more and buy into the modern age!

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1 hour ago, Wimpo said:

About 300-320$ 

Sell your existing CPU + MOBO + RAM for around $150. And purchase something like this instead. Trust me, it would be a way better upgrade instead of upgrading to a 4790.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (14nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($85.00) The Ryzen 5 1600 AF is available on amazon.com for $85. It is basically a Ryzen 5 2600 with first gen IMC. It is based on 12nm.
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($64.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $229.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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51 minutes ago, Bitter said:

The R5 1600 AF is $85 USD new and offers 90% the performance of a 2600 for $25 less and is compatible with 400 and 500 series boards if you decide to upgrade to a 3000 series or better later on. I've got one for my friends PC build, it can run very cool and power efficient with a pretty basic cooler or it can overclock 90% as good as a 2600 would overclock. It's basically a 2600 that was binned a little lower for some reason, maybe it didn't meet some criteria during validation?

 

Anyway, it's a stellar deal and a cheap way to get into the AM4 platform. If you hunt for deals you can pull it off for cheaper than you might think, 16GB of DDR4 3200 can be had for $60 and under if you find a sale at the right time, if you can find an AM4 board with a damaged socket retaining mechanism but undamaged pins under it you can get those for 1/2 regular price or even less and then it's a $8 USD CPU socket from Aliexpress to snap a part off and snap it onto the motherboard.

The difference between 1600 and 2600 its literally 5$. which is great but then again it gonna cost a lot more to upgrade

 

I've been thinking about buying used part.but as far as i concern Indonesian people are pretty unaware about their hardware. So i wouldn't gamble much on buying used part 

 

26 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

What country are you from?

 

I look at it this way: Is your 4440 unable to operate in a way that's currently survivable?

 

Without an unlocked CPU/MOBO combo the 4xxx series is making less and less sense these days, imo.

Save your $140, assume you can maybe get $80-100ish out of a cash sale for the 4440/MOBO/RAM setup. There is $220-240ish.

Save a bit more and buy into the modern age!

Indonesia

 

Its still doing fine, but its time to upgrade because i've been keeping this processor since day 1.

 

Right?But its not that easy to sell stuff on my country. its massive downhill, im now at the edge between spending more for modern hardware, or spending less for an okay hardware. Besides, the majority of my pc was just playing some games. But for video editing its not always 

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23 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Sell your existing CPU + MOBO + RAM for around $150. And purchase something like this instead. Trust me, it would be a way better upgrade instead of upgrading to a 4790.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (14nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($85.00) The Ryzen 5 1600 AF is available on amazon.com for $85. It is basically a Ryzen 5 2600 with first gen IMC. It is based on 12nm.
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($64.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $229.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-24 09:31 EST-0500

So yeah, this is pretty bizarre. the current market for my hardware is less that 100$, yes that include the i5 4440, H97, H40 and 8GB. to be exact about the price is around 80$ 

The reason why this is going downhill its because the majority of Indonesian people use laptop than a Desktop PC, Meaning the market price for laptop is higher. And if im going to sell all the parts, let just say i got 50% less from what i've imagined about the price  

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30 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Sell your existing CPU + MOBO + RAM for around $150. And purchase something like this instead. Trust me, it would be a way better upgrade instead of upgrading to a 4790.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (14nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($85.00) The Ryzen 5 1600 AF is available on amazon.com for $85. It is basically a Ryzen 5 2600 with first gen IMC. It is based on 12nm.
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($64.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $229.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-24 09:31 EST-0500

17 minutes ago, Wimpo said:

Indonesia

 

Its still doing fine, but its time to upgrade because i've been keeping this processor since day 1.

 

Right?But its not that easy to sell stuff on my country. its massive downhill, im now at the edge between spending more for modern hardware, or spending less for an okay hardware. Besides, the majority of my pc was just playing some games. But for video editing its not always

Hang onto your shit, then! Watch the market, and if you see a big hike in prices, sell.

But save up. I would personally see what Zen2 prices are looking like once Zen 3 gets closer. It's gonna be a good drop.

(The $200 msrp 2600 went down to a standard $165 where it sat for a long time, then dropped to $110-120 once Zen 2 hit. Great savings. I'd expect something similar!)

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6 hours ago, trevb0t said:

Hang onto your shit, then! Watch the market, and if you see a big hike in prices, sell.

But save up. I would personally see what Zen2 prices are looking like once Zen 3 gets closer. It's gonna be a good drop.

(The $200 msrp 2600 went down to a standard $165 where it sat for a long time, then dropped to $110-120 once Zen 2 hit. Great savings. I'd expect something similar!)

Yeah, maybe i stick my nose around. Thanks for the info.

 

49 minutes ago, Bitter said:

The 2600 is $115 on the USA, didn't know it was so much cheaper there!

No,2600 in here was 140$ so we're talking like 135$ for Ryzen 1600. Really man, the pricing sucks in here 

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4 hours ago, Wimpo said:

Yeah, maybe i stick my nose around. Thanks for the info.

 

No,2600 in here was 140$ so we're talking like 135$ for Ryzen 1600. Really man, the pricing sucks in here 

Not the 1600 AE, the 1600 AF. Maybe your pricing is that screwy. Look for this specific part YD1600BBAFBOX

 

Basically it seems like the 1600AF is a lower binned 2600. I've got one for my friends build and with a better cooler on it and a hefty undervolt it's able to all core clock itself to 3630mhz across all cores with a max of 3700mhz on several cores at a time. That's only about 200mhz off what a 2600 does which is a negligible difference for gaming and productivity work with 6 cores. It's had no issues running 3200Mhz DDR4 with decent timings so I think it's IMC is more akin to the 2600 than the 1600.

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