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Posted · Original PosterOP
Hello everyone, i want to buy my first gaming pc. But to be completely honest im not that good in tech related stuff. So ill say what i have learned watching youtube videos and reading posts.
 
This is the pc build:
 
Wifi card: GIGABYTE GC-WB867D-I Switch, Wireless, PCIe, WLAN, Bluetooth
PSU: Corsair CX Series 550 Watt 80 Plus Bronze
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600
GPU: PowerColor AMD Radeon RED Dragon RX 580 8GB
SSD: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Solid State Drive
RAM: G.SKILL 16GB (2 x 8GB) Ripjaws V Series DDR4 PC4-25600 3200MHz
Mother Board: B450 Tomahawk Max
Monitor: BenQ 27 Inch IPS Monitor | 1080P |GW2780 (Nup i dont need a 4k monitor)
 
In theory everything "should" work, but i wanted to double check with the experts since at least for me is almost 2 years of saving money. As i said im reaaaally new in this, so does this build have any incompatibility issue (I really dont want to get stuck with a part that i cant use)
 
And also a three specific questions:
 
if i connect the ryzen 5 fan, the front of the case usb cables will i still have enough headers to connect the bluetooth from the wifi card? (Just to double check)
 
is the psu wattage ok? The most greedy game i want to play is sekiro.
 
And, after A LOT of reading this monitor seems to be the best, since i really want the ips for the colors because i dont see my self playing competitive fps games to need the TN 144 hz 1ms monitor but i do see myself watching a lot of movies :3 . But once again will i have any compatibility problems?
 
Thx a lot everyone, i really appreciate the help.
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US pricing?

 

Most notably the SSD that's terribly priced in 99% of cases, and there is no case/chassis named.

 

7 minutes ago, Gtgamer said:

is the psu wattage ok? The most greedy game i want to play is sekiro.

Yes


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Compatibility wise, yes everything will work together, including bluetooth. You should be able to hit 3200mhz on your memory without issue, but I would suggest updating your motherboard BIOS before attempting any settings to ensure the best memory compatibility. I would also suggest getting a TLC SSD for longevity purposes. QLC drives are typically cheaper, but a substantially worse value. Samsung SSD's are the most reliable on the market, but you'd be better off getting a cheaper Crucial TLC SSD than a Samsung QLC (aka QVO Series).

 

As for your PSU, the wattage is fine but the quality is average. That's not a knock against that unit, however, as it's intended to be that way. That unit will power a RX 580 but keep in mind that the 580 has a very high power draw and would be better suited with a Corsair RM series PSU, as the quality is a bit better.

 

All in all, these parts will work together, and if you're on a tight budget you can order as is. Just remember that parts such as SSD/HDD's, PSU's, coolers, etc. can be carried over into future builds, so spending a little extra now for a higher quality part can save you money in the future.


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Ryzen 7 1700@3.9ghz | MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon | Crucial Ballistix 2x16gb (OC 3466mhz CL: 14)

MSI GTX 1080 8gb | SoundBlaster ZXR | Corsair HX850

Samsung 960 256gb | Samsung 860 1gb | Samsung 850 500gb

HGST 4tb, HGST 2tb | Seagate 2tb | Seagate 2tb

Custom CPU/GPU water loop

 

PC #2

AMD FX 8320@4.5ghz | Biostar TA970 | Vengeance Pro 1866 2x8gb DDR3

Sapphire R9 290x 4gb | Asus Xonar DS | Corsair RM650

Samsung 850 128gb | Intel 240gb | Seagate 2tb

Corsair H80iGT AIO

 

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GTX 1060M 3gb | FiiO E10k DAC

Samsung 950 256gb | HGST 1tb

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Posted · Original PosterOP
On 1/23/2020 at 4:37 PM, Jurrunio said:

US pricing?

 

Most notably the SSD that's terribly priced in 99% of cases, and there is no case/chassis named.

 

Yes

Im sorry the case will be the 

Fractal Design Focus G - Mid Tower Computer Case 

Thx for the help :3

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On 1/23/2020 at 2:30 PM, Gtgamer said:
GPU: PowerColor AMD Radeon RED Dragon RX 580 8GB
SSD: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Solid State Drive
RAM: G.SKILL 16GB (2 x 8GB) Ripjaws V Series DDR4 PC4-25600 3200MHz
Mother Board: B450 Tomahawk Max
Fractal Design Focus G - Mid Tower Computer Case 
 

RX 580s have been going up in price recently, the RX 5500XT and GTX 1650 Super basically offers equal performance while offering better efficiency (Nvidia card also gives better video encoder, if you plan on streaming or recording) so get those if they dont cost too much more

 

860 QVO is overpriced, as brands like Intel and Crucial sell their QLC NVMe and TLC SATA SSDs for about the same money. I prefer TLC as they wont slow down as much during longer continuous writes (as SLC cache runs out on both types) even though their max speed is lower, so that's the Crucial MX500, Adata SU800, SK Hynix Gold S31, Kingston UV500, Micron 1100/1300 (these two are more for businesses, so slightly slower), Sandisk Ultra 3D and WD Blue (not SN500). FYI there are only a few good QLC NVMe SSDs, the Intel 665p, 660p (665p's predecessor) and Crucial P1

 

Could save money on memory with 3000MHz CL15/16 kits

 

Could also save money on the board for an MSI B450-A Pro or Gaming Plus

 

Dont forget to add case fans, the Focus G only comes with 2 and I recommend to at least have 4.


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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On 1/23/2020 at 4:47 PM, BigDamn said:

Compatibility wise, yes everything will work together, including bluetooth. You should be able to hit 3200mhz on your memory without issue, but I would suggest updating your motherboard BIOS before attempting any settings to ensure the best memory compatibility. I would also suggest getting a TLC SSD for longevity purposes. QLC drives are typically cheaper, but a substantially worse value. Samsung SSD's are the most reliable on the market, but you'd be better off getting a cheaper Crucial TLC SSD than a Samsung QLC (aka QVO Series).

 

As for your PSU, the wattage is fine but the quality is average. That's not a knock against that unit, however, as it's intended to be that way. That unit will power a RX 580 but keep in mind that the 580 has a very high power draw and would be better suited with a Corsair RM series PSU, as the quality is a bit better.

 

All in all, these parts will work together, and if you're on a tight budget you can order as is. Just remember that parts such as SSD/HDD's, PSU's, coolers, etc. can be carried over into future builds, so spending a little extra now for a higher quality part can save you money in the future.

Wow thanks Big i really didnt know anything about ssd. My current computer works on a IDE hdd, so... Yup.

The difference between Crucial TLC and Samsung TLC is $40 so ill go with Samsung since i really want the hdd to last for as long as possible. 

 

The new PSU would be $50 more expensive. Ill use a 4 fan case; 2 front 1 back and one top. Is that enough to not buy the new psu?

 

I have been reading and some people say that the RX580 is not good enough since it is "pretty old" and they also sugest to save money and buy a 1660 super (But that is an extra $100) Watching vs videos to compare the benchmark of the regular gtx 1660 and the 1660 ti. The rx seems to be the best. Am i missing something? 

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2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

RX 580s have been going up in price recently, the RX 5500XT and GTX 1650 Super basically offers equal performance while offering better efficiency (Nvidia card also gives better video encoder, if you plan on streaming or recording) so get those if they dont cost too much more

 

860 QVO is overpriced, as brands like Intel and Crucial sell their QLC NVMe and TLC SATA SSDs for about the same money. I prefer TLC as they wont slow down as much during longer continuous writes (as SLC cache runs out on both types) even though their max speed is lower, so that's the Crucial MX500, Adata SU800, SK Hynix Gold S31, Kingston UV500, Micron 1100/1300 (these two are more for businesses, so slightly slower), Sandisk Ultra 3D and WD Blue (not SN500). FYI there are only a few good QLC NVMe SSDs, the Intel 665p, 660p (665p's predecessor) and Crucial P1

 

Could save money on memory with 3000MHz CL15/16 kits

 

Could also save money on the board for an MSI B450-A Pro or Gaming Plus

 

Dont forget to add case fans, the Focus G only comes with 2 and I recommend to at least have 4.

Tbh i really didnt know anything about hdd i just wrote "1tb ssd" the samsung EVO 1tb (TLC) is on sale right now so ill buy one. 

 

Yes, yes i found the  CORSAIR AF120 on sale as well, so ill get a pair. To have a total of 4 fans since BigDamn said the rx580 can get really hot. 

 

The tomahawk is just $10 more expensive than the msi. And apparently is a good board to upgrade the gpu and the ryzen 2600 to the 3600. So getting future proof for $10 seems like a good deal. 

 

I dont see myself buying another pc for a while since i mostly play indie games on steam and usually they dont require a lot. So i hope this is more than enough (Still want to play sekiro though) 

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3 hours ago, Gtgamer said:

The new PSU would be $50 more expensive. Ill use a 4 fan case; 2 front 1 back and one top. Is that enough to not buy the new psu?

 

I have been reading and some people say that the RX580 is not good enough since it is "pretty old" and they also sugest to save money and buy a 1660 super (But that is an extra $100) Watching vs videos to compare the benchmark of the regular gtx 1660 and the 1660 ti. The rx seems to be the best. Am i missing something? 

The RMx Series PSU isn't a necessity and you'll be fine with the CX, the RMx will just be better in the long run so it's up to you. Since the CX is $50 cheaper it may be the better option.

 

Many people will hate on AMD so it's not shocking. You can always wait for the next card to come out, but the simple fact is that AMD is the better deal on a budget and the RX580 is still a strong performer. AMD cards are also known to age very well, often times becoming a much better performer than their direct competitor. I've seen this first hand with my HD 7870 and R9 290x, which competed with (and in 2020 destroy) the GTX 660 and GTX 780 respectively.


QUOTE ME IF YOU WANT A REPLY!

 

PC #1

Ryzen 7 1700@3.9ghz | MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon | Crucial Ballistix 2x16gb (OC 3466mhz CL: 14)

MSI GTX 1080 8gb | SoundBlaster ZXR | Corsair HX850

Samsung 960 256gb | Samsung 860 1gb | Samsung 850 500gb

HGST 4tb, HGST 2tb | Seagate 2tb | Seagate 2tb

Custom CPU/GPU water loop

 

PC #2

AMD FX 8320@4.5ghz | Biostar TA970 | Vengeance Pro 1866 2x8gb DDR3

Sapphire R9 290x 4gb | Asus Xonar DS | Corsair RM650

Samsung 850 128gb | Intel 240gb | Seagate 2tb

Corsair H80iGT AIO

 

Laptop

Core i7 6700HQ | Samsung 2400mhz 2x8gb DDR4

GTX 1060M 3gb | FiiO E10k DAC

Samsung 950 256gb | HGST 1tb

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Posted · Original PosterOP
38 minutes ago, BigDamn said:

The RMx Series PSU isn't a necessity and you'll be fine with the CX, the RMx will just be better in the long run so it's up to you. Since the CX is $50 cheaper it may be the better option.

 

Many people will hate on AMD so it's not shocking. You can always wait for the next card to come out, but the simple fact is that AMD is the better deal on a budget and the RX580 is still a strong performer. AMD cards are also known to age very well, often times becoming a much better performer than their direct competitor. I've seen this first hand with my HD 7870 and R9 290x, which competed with (and in 2020 destroy) the GTX 660 and GTX 780 respectively.

And the Rx 590 is only $15 more expensive. Released in 2018 but considering i only want to play indie games and the darksouls saga i dont know if buying these expensive cards is really a must. In conclusion people say that you should always buy the most modern option available, but i dont know if that is really the case when "blasphemous" was the most demanding game i have played in the last 4 months

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