The Best VR Headset... got BETTER!?

[RILEYISMYNAME]

The Oculus Quest was already arguably the best VR headset, at least in terms of versatility. But the addition of built-in hand tracking AND playing desktop VR games via Oculus Link might just make it the MUST-HAVE VR headset.

 

 

 

Buy Oculus Quest:
On Amazon: https://geni.us/iwObXF
On Newegg: https://geni.us/PBKbi6Y

 

Buy Anker Powerline+:
On Amazon: https://geni.us/YWJ2Gvx
On Newegg: https://geni.us/ccYUQ

 

Buy Active USB 3.0 Extension cable:
On Amazon: https://geni.us/UiYzxC
On Newegg: https://geni.us/FIPQsK

[i_build_nanosuits]

Rift S is a lot better...it has a better screen, better refresh rate, is more comfortable.

+no lag and no batteries to keep worying about charging etc.

[nideii]

Just for the record, when you shop your "High Quality"(tm) usb cable for the Link, you might also want to buy an external powered usb hub as well.

 

Looks like if you cannot charge the headset while using the Link, you cannot enable the Link. Take me some time to find that out. xD

[Domrockt]

OK saw the Video and iam on a Projekt right now.

 

I have build an HTPC\Hackintosh\Emulator\oculus Quest  x99 ASRock itx , Xeon e5 4667 16 core , rx 5700xt , 32 Gig DDR4 PC 

 

and i am at the Point of Tuning in my Quest Wireless Setup 

 

I bought an tenda ac10u AC1200 Router Just for a Quest 5ghz WiFi it has beamforming and Gigabit Ports and iam using cat6 lancables.

I use ReLive from AMD and i must admit beatsaber works ok'ish BUT Arizona sunshine and Elite Dangerous is the BEST experience i ever had in VR .

 

Tomorrow iam gonna try Skyrim and Fallout.

Its quite late in germany right now.

 

I still own a Pimax 5k and the cables kill Elite Dangerous for me. 

 

So a planned dedicatet WLAN is essential for a quite good experience on the Quest.

 

Imho Dom

 

[Results45]

Does the Quest have WiFi 6, 5G, or Wi-Gig support? If so, is the rendering and response times still that laggy? 

[Domrockt]

Nope Just 5ghz WLAN 8xxmbits the Response time depends on the streaming Service , i tried ALVR , own riftcat and the best experience i have is with ReLive. It is smooth enough and have only artifacring at the beginning of a Session. I think until the beambending does its Magic.

[Techy XperT]

Hi 

I think the delay is because it needs a better wireless receiver (maybe)

[Techy XperT]

10 hours ago, RILEYISMYNAME said:

The Oculus Quest was already arguably the best VR headset, at least in terms of versatility. But the addition of built-in hand tracking AND playing desktop VR games via Oculus Link might just make it the MUST-HAVE VR headset.

 

 

 

Buy Oculus Quest:
On Amazon: https://geni.us/iwObXF
On Newegg: https://geni.us/PBKbi6Y

 

Buy Anker Powerline+:
On Amazon: https://geni.us/YWJ2Gvx
On Newegg: https://geni.us/ccYUQ

 

Buy Active USB 3.0 Extension cable:
On Amazon: https://geni.us/UiYzxC
On Newegg: https://geni.us/FIPQsK

Hi Linus/any employee im A tech youtuber that has a less amount of subs and really loves youre content can you please give me a shout out (im feeling broken)in any of youre videos plz and ill really appreciate it.

[Flame Soulis]

So this video kind of made me do three things:

1) Finally register an account here.
2) Buy Beat Saber for the second time on Steam (which I swear never goes on sale).

3) Try Beat Saber on the Quest using Virtual Desktop (Link just doesn't work on my end, even with the very same cables (passes setup, but black screen of go jump off a cliff).

 

Here's what I found:
1) The 'jello' feeling he's talking about... I think that's a per setup basis. I tried it in my cramped basement and it was like my hands were yo-yoing everywhere. I tried it in my open kitchen and things were buttery smooth.

2) Playing Beat Saber via Virtual Desktop (Wifi Streaming) is doable... up until Expert. At Expert, eventually the tracking just gives up and  your controllers just stop responding properly. This isn't the case on the native Quest version, as my S rank on 90% of all official songs will attest to (I am not even going to think about Expert+).

3) My theory on why #2 didn't work so well is due to network traffic. My network isn't Linus level of amazing (just a basic R6220 from Netgear that is in the basement but the same area near testing above), but from what it seemed, there was something causing interference. Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% positive there is some lag, but to that level... even I had to raise an eyebrow.

 

That being said, I do hope this is improved, as Oculus seriously has no excuse on any control latency: just let the Quest do its job, send the data across the USB, and you're done. Once I get the Link working, I'll have to give it a try again and see how it compares, but I guess your results may vary and it really will not fully compare to say an Index, Vive, or even the Rift S... but if you want an easy way to get into VRChat, low to mid level Beat Saber, or other games and want something that can do things on its own (seriously, this thing is a like bringing a console over for a LAN party), it's still a nice buy... if you can find one for sale.

EDIT: To note, my current headset is a Vive with Index controllers. I have a DK2 and Razer Hydras, but I'm not going to set those up again unless I'm really really bored.

[Retro_R]

I've been looking at this for my desktop + aio vr setup. I currently don't have a headset. Anyway, would anyone recommend this for a beginner? It's cheaper than getting a rift s and you get a standalone vr system.

[Flame Soulis]

7 hours ago, Retro_R said:

I've been looking at this for my desktop + aio vr setup. I currently don't have a headset. Anyway, would anyone recommend this for a beginner? It's cheaper than getting a rift s and you get a standalone vr system.

That's the tradeoff: while you DO get a standalone system... it does have a few limits that bleed into the PC experience:
1) The system uses inside-out tracking with only 4 cameras on the outer edges. This means it has more blind spots than the Rift S, namely with moving things closer to your face and behind your head (like using a bow).

2) The Rift S has a slightly higher refresh rate of 80 versus the Quest's 72. This is all also a case of 'Why?' considering the Vive, Index, and everyone else start at 90. This can make motion sickness worse, but results may vary (I had a DK2 and honestly never had any issues with its 75hz display).

3) Oculus Link is... very picky at the moment, even with the hailed Anker cables.

4) If my experience with Virtual Desktop has shown anything, under some situations, the tracking of the controllers becomes problematic unless doing slower activities (as I've gauged it: Beat Saber on Hard or lower).

 

While I do hope Oculus does improve it, if you have no interest in a wirefree VR experience and depending on what apps you want to use, you may just want to get the Rift S or nab a Vive on the cheap secondhand. If you want to be able to have a more 'party friendly' VR approach or want your VR fixes on travel, the Quest is hands down the winner.

[Retro_R]

1 hour ago, Flame Soulis said:

1) The system uses inside-out tracking with only 4 cameras on the outer edges. This means it has more blind spots than the Rift S, namely with moving things closer to your face and behind your head (like using a bow).

But I thought that the rift s also had a bit of trouble with hand tracking behind you though? Honestly, I think that its better than having to set up sensors.

1 hour ago, Flame Soulis said:

2) The Rift S has a slightly higher refresh rate of 80 versus the Quest's 72. This is all also a case of 'Why?' considering the Vive, Index, and everyone else start at 90. This can make motion sickness worse, but results may vary (I had a DK2 and honestly never had any issues with its 75hz display).

It's probably to make it cheaper (especially since there's basically a phone built into it) However, I may try it out to see if it really does make that much of a difference.

1 hour ago, Flame Soulis said:

While I do hope Oculus does improve it, if you have no interest in a wirefree VR experience and depending on what apps you want to use, you may just want to get the Rift S or nab a Vive on the cheap secondhand. If you want to be able to have a more 'party friendly' VR approach or want your VR fixes on travel, the Quest is hands down the winner.

Well, I kinda want a all in one solution because I want to watch youtube in bed without having to carry a tablet in front of my face. I may not use it a ton on pc. Thats why I wanna spend as little as possible (plus extra value)

[mustang5o]

New here and another person that decided to setup an account because of this video.  Did you have it setup on it's own 5ghz wifi network?  I thought if it made a difference I'd consider buying another router to just run the Quest with a PC and nothing else on that network.  Also, did you try the other software (ALVR, VRidge...) besides just virtual desktop for comparison?  Lastly, is it possible the actual Oculus Link cable would fare any better when using it wired?

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Another person that made an account due to the video.

I heard ALVR was a good setup for wireless vr, and have been using for a while. It works for the games I have lost interest due to my switch to Linux, anyone know a Linux alternative?

[torpid18]

 

On 1/23/2020 at 5:34 PM, nideii said:

Just for the record, when you shop your "High Quality"(tm) usb cable for the Link, you might also want to buy an external powered usb hub as well.

 

Looks like if you cannot charge the headset while using the Link, you cannot enable the Link. Take me some time to find that out.

Also, I just wanted to point out that the Anker Powerline+ USB cable linked above is USB 2.0, but USB 3.0 is required for the Link to work. You can side load and charge with this cable, but the Oculus Desktop App won't recognize the Quest. The correct model is listed on Amazon and Newegg. I wanted to save someone else the trouble of getting the wrong cable.

Anker Powerline+ USB 3.0 cable :
On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LNAAEJ2
On Newegg: https://www.newegg.com/p/359-00D8-00037

 

[WookieTiddy]

Does anyone know what the right angle connector he's using for the usb c to the quest is? 

[steelo]

55 minutes ago, WookieTiddy said:

Does anyone know what the right angle connector he's using for the usb c to the quest is? 

https://www.amazon.com/Right-Adapter-Oculus-Degree-Female/dp/B07WX6WVLG