Which 280mm would you pick for Ryzen?

[GilmourD]

Trying to figure out which way to go with this... Ryzen 5 3600, AIO would be front mounted in a Corsair Air 540 case.

 

EVGA CLC 280 (5th gen Asetek, loud-ass fans, ass RGB)

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Liquid-Cooler-Cooling-400-HY-CL28-V1/dp/B01MSDQTMU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=clc%2B280&qid=1579665316&sr=8-3&th=1

 

Corsair H115i Pro XT (new CoolIT design, don't necessarily like the AM4 mount, cooler RGB)

https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Radiator-Software-Control-Liquid/dp/B0829RYPKM/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=h115i+pro+xt&qid=1579695866&sr=8-2

 

Corsair H115i Pro (older version, 6th gen Asetek, slightly less loud-ass fans, less cool RGB)

https://www.amazon.com/Radiator-Advanced-Lighting-Software-compatible/dp/B077G3C6HH/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=h115i+pro&qid=1579695903&sr=8-2

 

Other options in the same price range?

 

 

[191x7]

Which Ryzen?  I wouldn't bother with water cooling unless Ryzen 3900x or stronger. Or threadripper.

[PopsicleHustler]

Lol none of them. 280mm AIO is simple overkill for 3600, and it costs 2/3 of the CPU. Just get some decent air cooler and save yourself a ton of money. You can even get a better CPU instead.

[GoldenLag]

34 minutes ago, GilmourD said:

Ryzen 5 3600, AIO would be front mounted

none of them, save the money from not getting a cooler at all and spend it on a 3700x. then at some point get a decent aircooler or a AIO. 

[GilmourD]

35 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Which Ryzen?  I wouldn't bother with water cooling unless Ryzen 3900x or stronger. Or threadripper.

 

34 minutes ago, PopsicleHustler said:

Lol none of them. 280mm AIO is simple overkill for 3600, and it costs 2/3 of the CPU. Just get some decent air cooler and save yourself a ton of money. You can even get a better CPU instead.

Or... Unless I want something quieter than an air cooler that isn't a giant brick of metal in the middle of the case?

 

C'mon, guys. This is Linus Tech Tips where they liquid cooled a network switch for noise and lulz.

[191x7]

Pretty much any $15-$50 tower cooler would be both silent and cool on the 3600.

 

AIO-s add a ton of cables and at least two tubes to the systme. That rarely improves the looks.

 

A $150 CPU and a $150 cooler perform a lot worse than a $250 CPU with a $50 cooler.

 

Also, who said decent air coolers are ugly? Did that one consider the average lifetime of AIO pumps?

[PopsicleHustler]

8 minutes ago, GilmourD said:

 

Or... Unless I want something quieter than an air cooler that isn't a giant brick of metal in the middle of the case?

 

C'mon, guys. This is Linus Tech Tips where they liquid cooled a network switch for noise and lulz.

Its debatable whether or not a huge AIO would be quieter than a high end air cooler from be quiet! or Noctua. You still have x2 140mm fans+pump.

[GoldenLag]

10 minutes ago, GilmourD said:

This is Linus Tech Tips where they liquid cooled a network switch for noise and lulz.

this is the linus tech tips forums. not linus tech tips. 

 

AIOs really arent more quiet than a good aircooler. 

11 minutes ago, GilmourD said:

Or... Unless I want something quieter than an air cooler that isn't a giant brick of metal in the middle of the case?

then get something smaller. like a Dark Rock 4 or among the many other towers or downdraft coolers on the market. 

[GilmourD]

OK... Since this seems to be a much harder question than I assumed...

 

Just assume I don't care that it's overkill and I really don't want an air cooler... Which 280mm AIO in that price range would you get? Would you choose something I already posted or something else entirely?

 

Initially, I wanted something that would work with my board's built-in addressable RGB header but it seems that the AIOs that do are either hard-to-find or not well-built (like the CoolerMaster that has no screw space tolerance and puts screws through tubing).

[GoldenLag]

7 minutes ago, GilmourD said:

OK... Since this seems to be a much harder question than I assumed...

refer to the Cooler tier list and look around your market. 

we are just saying it makes no sense when the money you are spending on a cooler can be spent on a better CPU. 

[GilmourD]

6 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

refer to the Cooler tier list and look around your market. 

we are just saying it makes no sense when the money you are spending on a cooler can be spent on a better CPU. 

I already have the CPU. This is to replace the existing lackluster Wraith Stealth. I'm looking to get my temps down with an attractive AIO that stays out of the way of everything else and not run the fans so hard that they're noisy rather than get an air cooler that is have to push harder to get lower temps in a house where the wife likes to raise the ambient temperature. I want as small a delta T as possible within $160. 

[For Science!]

4 minutes ago, GilmourD said:

 

Are you interested in replacing the fans? which then makes the question which is the better pump/control software. Or are you going to stick to the stock fans of the AIO

[Jeppes]

Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 was great on kitguru review. That should be about 100$. 100$ is a bit steep because its 60-70€ here with higher vat.

[GilmourD]

36 minutes ago, For Science! said:

Are you interested in replacing the fans? which then makes the question which is the better pump/control software. Or are you going to stick to the stock fans of the AIO

That depends on what the total expenditure would be. Whatcha thinking, @For Science!?

[BruceWayneofLosSanto]

AIO = 3 x 120mm fans vs cheap aftermarket cooler with 1 x 120mm fan.  But you don't want the cooler taking up space I guess but there's still good mini -tower/dual tower/low profile coolers with smaller fans - https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-d9l

 

Just about any aftermarket cooler can handle a 88w 3600.

[Zando_]

I'd go with the EVGA one because warranty + it's one of the best performers. Fans are quite loud at anything above 40% speed though (based off personal experience with mine). Both Corsair ones should be fine too, realistically they all should be in a similar performance bracket. You seem worried about the RGB, do you use any other Corsair or ASUS Products? Corsair iCUE is pretty decent now, and in beta stuff they're building in aura cross-compatability so it's easier to manage all your RGB from one spot. EVGA's utility for the RGB has the advantage that it's very very lightweight, but it's not like super amazing or anything. Gets the job done though. 

[GilmourD]

2 minutes ago, BruceWayneofLosSanto said:

AIO = 3 x 120mm fans vs cheap aftermarket cooler with 1 x 120mm fan.  But you don't want the cooler taking up space I guess but there's still good mini -tower/dual tower/low profile coolers with smaller fans - https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-d9l

 

Just about any aftermarket cooler can handle a 88w 3600.

There's plenty of space in the front of the case for 2 x 140mm (I asked about 280 AIOs, not 360, although a 360 would fit) and it's common knowledge that multiple fans at a slower RPM move more air than one fan at a higher RPM... Soooooooooooo...

[GilmourD]

2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I'd go with the EVGA one because warranty + it's one of the best performers. Fans are quite loud at anything above 40% speed though (based off personal experience with mine). Both Corsair ones should be fine too, realistically they all should be in a similar performance bracket. You seem worried about the RGB, do you use any other Corsair or ASUS Products? Corsair iCUE is pretty decent now, and in beta stuff they're building in aura cross-compatability so it's easier to manage all your RGB from one spot. EVGA's utility for the RGB has the advantage that it's very very lightweight, but it's not like super amazing or anything. Gets the job done though. 

I asked the same question over at the [H] (which is a shell of its former self since Kyle sold it off...) and somebody said they have the EVGA and hate the controller software beyond the RGB stuff (fan curves, pump speed, etc.). That's certainly a consideration.

 

How's iCUE with that stuff? I'm starting to lean heavily towards Corsair, but something about the CoolIT mounting mechanism on the Pro XT for AM4 puts me off. I think the Asetek mechanism is more elegant. Plus I seem to have lost a screw for the studs for that mount and need to find it. LOL

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, GilmourD said:

I asked the same question over at the [H] (which is a shell of its former self since Kyle sold it off...) and somebody said they have the EVGA and hate the controller software beyond the RGB stuff (fan curves, pump speed, etc.). That's certainly a consideration.

Hmmmmmm. Back when I had mine I didn't really have an issue with the software. It's typical EVGA, pretty barebones, but I like that about it. Did what it needed to, didn't give me any issues. 
 

2 minutes ago, GilmourD said:

How's iCUE with that stuff? I'm starting to lean heavily towards Corsair, but something about the CoolIT mounting mechanism on the Pro XT for AM4 puts me off. I think the Asetek mechanism is more elegant. Plus I seem to have lost a screw for the studs for that mount and need to find it. LOL

I've never had a Corsair AIO so I can't speak on that, but with my keeb and headphones it's bueno. Used to have RGB RAM from them too, the only issue I ever had with that was Aura fighting iCUE for who gets to control the RAM, but with Aura integration coming into iCUE (IIRC there's a version with a beta setup for Aura compatibility and it's working fine for a lot of people) that shouldn't be an issue. The software itself has a decent layout and isn't much of a bother, and it is quite powerful if you have one of their keyboards and wanna remap any key to really anything or any macro. 

[For Science!]

7 minutes ago, GilmourD said:

 

I like Asetek more (no objective reason, just my opinion) the ML fans are actually decent too So the non XT would be my vote.