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Is It Worth Upgrading to 2 x DDR3 8GB or just keep the 1x DDR3 8GB? My motherboard can’t take DDR4 so is it worth getting dual channel of my 8GB or no

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I saw it makes a performance difference or ok YouTube it made 10-60 FPS difference just because they were on 2 stocks not 1 

 

my motherboard only takes DDR3 tho 

 

 so is it worth even getting another 8gb to make 16gb But DDR3? 

 

Or just no even worth it and keep just 8GB DDR3 

 

if you need the motherboard name I put the name in my post a few times ago about my computer or if you need the ram exact model then I’ll have to look but it’s a Corsair vengeance somethi

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Lots of 2nd hand DDR3 RAM these days, you should be able to snag some at reasonably cheap prices.


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Going to dual channel from single can give a performance uplift to a system, although how much very much depends on the use case and rest of the system configuration. Find out how much it costs as a first step. While matching ram is best, that might be difficult so don't worry too much about getting something else similar. Maybe aim for something at same speed as current module, at similar or better timings.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
7 hours ago, Samfisher said:

Lots of 2nd hand DDR3 RAM these days, you should be able to snag some at reasonably cheap prices.

 

7 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Which MBO, CPU, GPU?

 

5 hours ago, porina said:

Going to dual channel from single can give a performance uplift to a system, although how much very much depends on the use case and rest of the system configuration. Find out how much it costs as a first step. While matching ram is best, that might be difficult so don't worry too much about getting something else similar. Maybe aim for something at same speed as current module, at similar or better timings.

 

4 hours ago, SupaKomputa said:

Upgrading to 16gb yes, you should. Memory price is cheap right now.

No need to find the exact module, just try finding the same speed.

 

MY RAM 

i have 1x stick  in my pc 

 

CML8GX3M1A1600C10

 

Link to it 

https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Memory/High-Performance-Memory/Vengeance%C2%AE-Low-Profile-%E2%80%94-8GB-DDR3-Memory-Kit/p/CML8GX3M1A1600C10
 

 

MOTHERBOARD 

 

Gigabyte GA-h81m s2h ( 

 

LINK

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-H81M-S2H-rev-10#ov

 

 

GPU 

 

GTX 1060 6GB ASUS 

 

CPU 

 

I5 4690 3.50ghz 

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Dual channel will help but eventually you'll want to replace that 4/4 chip with something modern.

 

If you can hold out, I'd just grab a cheap stick of DDR3 for now and wait until 10th gen Intel launches in a few months or 4th gen ryzen later in the year.

 

Then sell off your old system or repurpose it for another task.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
9 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Dual channel will help but eventually you'll want to replace that 4/4 chip with something modern.

 

If you can hold out, I'd just grab a cheap stick of DDR3 for now and wait until 10th gen Intel launches in a few months or 4th gen ryzen later in the year.

 

Then sell off your old system or repurpose it for another task.

Say a game like battlefield. Would it increase FPS or stop stuttering if I buy the same exact stick? Or is it absolutely totally not worth it? 

 

I dont plan plan on upgrading at all soon because I’d have to get new motherboard aoso

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Just now, WolfLoverPro said:

Say a game like battlefield. Would it increase FPS or stop stuttering if I buy the same exact stick? Or is it absolutely totally not worth it? 

 

I dont plan plan on upgrading at all soon because I’d have to get new motherboard aoso

No RAM will help you with battlefield. You lack cores.

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2 minutes ago, WolfLoverPro said:

Say a game like battlefield. Would it increase FPS or stop stuttering if I buy the same exact stick? Or is it absolutely totally not worth it? 

 

I dont plan plan on upgrading at all soon because I’d have to get new motherboard aoso

It might mitigate some of it but no, BF is a pretty CPU intensive game and you won't eliminate stutters.

 

Newer hardware will minimize them.


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4 minutes ago, WolfLoverPro said:

Say a game like battlefield. Would it increase FPS or stop stuttering if I buy the same exact stick? Or is it absolutely totally not worth it? 

 

I dont plan plan on upgrading at all soon because I’d have to get new motherboard aoso

it's not worth it...battlefield doesn't run well because it overwhelm your processor.

Do not spend a single more penny on this kit...sell it online as a combo and buy some ryzen 5 stuff with DDR4 instead.


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Not so fast guys... 

The H81m-s2h, if it's the correct mainboard and not the h110m listed at amazon, does support setting the multiplier.

Next question  @WolfLoverPro

Is your cpu a standard 4690 or is it the 4690K?

 

And come on, what's the price for a suitable 8gb-stick 2nd hand? Less than $20 I guess. 8gb only can cause stuttering, and dual-channel gives about 5fps extra.

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1 hour ago, Sir0Tek said:

Not so fast guys... 

The H81m-s2h, if it's the correct mainboard and not the h110m listed at amazon, does support setting the multiplier.

Next question  @WolfLoverPro

Is your cpu a standard 4690 or is it the 4690K?

 

And come on, what's the price for a suitable 8gb-stick 2nd hand? Less than $20 I guess. 8gb only can cause stuttering, and dual-channel gives about 5fps extra.

Normal 4690 and motherboard is the exact one in link btw https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-H81M-S2H-rev-10#ov

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2 hours ago, Sir0Tek said:

Not so fast guys... 

The H81m-s2h, if it's the correct mainboard and not the h110m listed at amazon, does support setting the multiplier.

Next question  @WolfLoverPro

Is your cpu a standard 4690 or is it the 4690K?

 

And come on, what's the price for a suitable 8gb-stick 2nd hand? Less than $20 I guess. 8gb only can cause stuttering, and dual-channel gives about 5fps extra.

 

3 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

it's not worth it...battlefield doesn't run well because it overwhelm your processor.

Do not spend a single more penny on this kit...sell it online as a combo and buy some ryzen 5 stuff with DDR4 instead.

 

3 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

It might mitigate some of it but no, BF is a pretty CPU intensive game and you won't eliminate stutters.

 

Newer hardware will minimize them.

 

3 hours ago, 191x7 said:

No RAM will help you with battlefield. You lack cores.

 

BBBBBUUUUUTTTTTTTT

 

look at how much FPS GAIN ???

 

 

 

 

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1. The test machine there is a 6 core, 12 threaded CPU based off of broadwell-e (14nm essentially skylake) architecture which is superior to your CPU in both IPC and core and thread count. Additionally, it has quad channel memory support which you do not, and the CPU is strong enough to saturate those channels if the software can utilize it compared to yours.

 

2. Most of these side by side benchmarks with no actual commentary/methodology explanations are totally bogus.

 

 

3. Going to dual channel will probably help some but you are still limited to 4 CPU threads. More memory bandwidth after a certain point won't matter if your CPU can't utilize it for the software.


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45 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

1. The test machine there is a 6 core, 12 threaded CPU based off of broadwell-e (14nm essentially skylake) architecture which is superior to your CPU in both IPC and core and thread count. Additionally, it has quad channel memory support which you do not, and the CPU is strong enough to saturate those channels if the software can utilize it compared to yours.

 

2. Most of these side by side benchmarks with no actual commentary/methodology explanations are totally bogus.

 

 

3. Going to dual channel will probably help some but you are still limited to 4 CPU threads. More memory bandwidth after a certain point won't matter if your CPU can't utilize it for the software.

so in other words dont bother?

 

I was trying to decide wether to buy new HDD or Ram

 

i only have 30gb storage space left Lmfao or get ram but i guess theres no point in ram then?

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5 minutes ago, WolfLoverPro said:

so in other words dont bother?

 

I was trying to decide wether to buy new HDD or Ram

 

i only have 30gb storage space left Lmfao or get ram but i guess theres no point in ram then?

Hard to say man. It won't make stuttering go away but it will help. Spending money on old ram is a lost cause since when you upgrade it doesn't carry over.

 

At least with storage you can reuse it.


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I'd suggest running monitoring software to see what the actual system load is when gaming. That might give a clue as to what might help or not. This is one occasion where having an AMD GPU makes it easier since it has a built in overlay, and with nvidia either you need a 3rd party tool, hope the game has it built in, or run separate tools on a 2nd monitor.

 

How this is done doesn't matter, but go into the game. If the CPU usage is 100% and the GPU usage is lower, you're CPU limited. Ram might or might not help here, as more ram bandwidth could free up more of the CPU's potential. If the GPU is 100% and CPU is lower, more ram probably wont help. If ram usage is close to 8GB, just get the extra ram. Especially with a 6GB video card, you could run out of vram depending on game settings and that would spill over to the system ram.

 

I still think, if the ram is cheap enough, it wouldn't hurt to get it. 


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