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Hey guys

I got a Ryzen 7 2700x oc'ed to 4.2 ghz.

I'm really thinking on getting into streaming so i'm thinking on getting a 3900x. Not sure if it's worth it, i jsut have heard so many good things about 3gen ryzen.

 

my current setup is:

Ryzen 7 2700x

Evga SC2 GTX 1080 ti

32gb LPX 3000mhz

x570 auros Master

Corsair H100i pro

1tb ssd

2tb hdd

Evga supernova G3 1000W

Fractal design meshify C.

 

But if i get the 3900x should i get some faster ram too or is that pointless?

 

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1 minute ago, Ambandion said:

Hey guys

I got a Ryzen 7 2700x oc'ed to 4.2 ghz.

I'm really thinking on getting into streaming so i'm thinking on getting a 3900x. Not sure if it's worth it, i jsut have heard so many good things about 3gen ryzen.

 

my current setup is:

Ryzen 7 2700x

Evga SC2 GTX 1080 ti

32gb LPX 3000mhz

x570 auros Master

Corsair H100i pro

1tb ssd

2tb hdd

Evga supernova G3 1000W

Fractal design meshify C.

 

But if i get the 3900x should i get some faster ram too or is that pointless?

 

Your 2700x is prefectly fine for streaming.

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3rd gen Ryzen's main advantage is improved single core performance and gaming performance, even without streaming the Zen 2 CPUs are faster than your current Zen+ CPU.

 

R9 or R7 depends on whether you stream with h264 encoder or NVENC


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Even for streaming the 3900X is really overkill. Look to the 3700x instead.


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While the 3900X is nice for streaming, your 2700X can handle it fairly well too so don't worry about that. 

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6 hours ago, Ambandion said:

Hey guys

I got a Ryzen 7 2700x oc'ed to 4.2 ghz.

I'm really thinking on getting into streaming so i'm thinking on getting a 3900x. Not sure if it's worth it, i jsut have heard so many good things about 3gen ryzen.

 

my current setup is:

Ryzen 7 2700x

Evga SC2 GTX 1080 ti

32gb LPX 3000mhz

x570 auros Master

Corsair H100i pro

1tb ssd

2tb hdd

Evga supernova G3 1000W

Fractal design meshify C.

 

But if i get the 3900x should i get some faster ram too or is that pointless?

 

It is not worthwhile. I would either wait for Ryzen 4th gen or whatever Intel puts out. I would just use NVENC as it has equal or better quality to x264 at MUCH less performance cost.


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Ryzen 7 3700x | X570 Aorus Pro Wifi | 32GB (16x2) 16-16-16-36 G.Skill Trident Z RGB | MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 2080ti

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11 minutes ago, GLD said:

It is not worthwhile. I would either wait for Ryzen 4th gen or whatever Intel puts out. I would just use NVENC as it has equal or better quality to x264 at MUCH less performance cost.

Really? You're suggesting he do a platform swap from AMD to Intel (another 14nm+++++++ CPU?). He already has a perfectly good mobo in the X570 Aorus Master, he should either be looking at a 3700X or higher, or wait for Ryzen 4 series......Intel should not be a consideration.


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Just now, GamerDude said:

Really? You're suggesting he do a platform swap from AMD to Intel (another 14nm+++++++ CPU?). He already has a perfectly good mobo in the X570 Aorus Master, he should either be looking at a 3700X or higher, or wait for Ryzen 4 series......Intel should not be a consideration.

You haven't seen what Intel will put out after "14nm +++++++".  Who knows what will happen in the next year or two. Intel could literally destroy AMD or they cant. Just because a CPU is ahead currently, doesn't mean it will stay that way. 


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1 minute ago, GLD said:

You haven't seen what Intel will put out after "14nm +++++++".  Who knows what will happen in the next year or two. Intel could literally destroy AMD or they cant. Just because a CPU is ahead currently, doesn't mean it will stay that way. 

Okay, let's see how the next Intel 14++++ refresh does against Zen2+ (Ryzen 4xxx), hope you're not holding your breath for Intel.....😉


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All I mentioned was to wait to see what comes out. Nothing is worthwhile for OP right now.


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Ryzen 7 3700x | X570 Aorus Pro Wifi | 32GB (16x2) 16-16-16-36 G.Skill Trident Z RGB | MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 2080ti

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4 minutes ago, GamerDude said:

Okay, let's see how the next Intel 14++++ refresh does against Zen2+ (Ryzen 4xxx), hope you're not holding your breath for Intel.....😉

u know i stopped for a sec thinking the ++++ was a meme at first, and then i realize...lol.

 

OP has a x570 master, intel's out of the question


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3 hours ago, GLD said:

All I mentioned was to wait to see what comes out. Nothing is worthwhile for OP right now.

But it doesn't make sense since OP has an excellent mobo in the X570 Aorus Master, he should be ready for Ryzen 4xxx when it comes out. Going Intel would mean he has to get rid of his mobo and go for whatever Intel mobo that supports the latest Intel. More practical to keep his present CPU + mobo and wait for the Ryzen 4xxx instead (which is my recommendation to the OP). Either go big now, Ryzen 3900X at least, or wait for Ryzen 4xxx.....as for the RAM, it maybe be possible to OC the RAM to 3200MHz (really depends on modules used though).


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Yeah as others said the 3900x would be a nice jump in performance and so on but your 2700x is still good for now and waiting for the new AMD stuff this year probably makes more sense..

Still if you cant wait haha then the 3900x is an awesome cpu. 

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I am amazed that someone suggested junking the x590, AMD universe and going Intel way ( At least thinking about it)

I had been an Intel fan for the last 18 yrs, built all my rigs Intel... till about 5 months back when I read about AMD and what all they were doing...

Although it is a personal preference.. Intel vs AMD, IMO, you get bigger bang for your hard earned buck going the AMD Route...

I have the X470/2700x, and I am so satisfied with what all it can do.

 

So my friend.. stick with AMD.. there are better things on the horizon from AMD compared to Intel....

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23 hours ago, Ambandion said:

Hey guys

I got a Ryzen 7 2700x oc'ed to 4.2 ghz.

I'm really thinking on getting into streaming so i'm thinking on getting a 3900x. Not sure if it's worth it, i jsut have heard so many good things about 3gen ryzen.

 

my current setup is:

Ryzen 7 2700x

Evga SC2 GTX 1080 ti

32gb LPX 3000mhz

x570 auros Master

Corsair H100i pro

1tb ssd

2tb hdd

Evga supernova G3 1000W

Fractal design meshify C.

 

But if i get the 3900x should i get some faster ram too or is that pointless?

 

I have had the 3900X and I currently own the 3700X and 3950X and I can tell you for streaming and gaming they are essentially the same.  It depends what you plan on doing other than streaming and gaming for a high core count CPU.  

I don't 100% buy into the idea that all you need it 6-8 cores to game since people tend to do more than just game but for me it comes down to price and expectations.  If you have the money for the 3900X and know for gaming it's not an upgrade sure, but if you expect to gain 15% more performance than no.  I'd rather put that money into faster RAM, better GPU (now or down the line), or more M.2 NVME stroage 


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