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Posted · Original PosterOP

Is the Samsung 970 Evo plus m.2 ssd the highest end Samsung m.2? Looking to upgrade end from the confusing lists online that appears to be, but I want to confirm. I plan to get a 1tb as my boot drive to replace my full 250gb data ssd


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Yes for the general consumers, until it gets replaced by the PCIe 4.0 980 Evo which since we've already seen rumours, should be announced within 2-3 months. There's still the 970 Pro though

 

Even though I wont buy that myself


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The only time I recommend NVME drives are if they have cache, this helps memory performance. But the 970evo is expensive, I recommend the HP EX920. 


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14 minutes ago, LamoidZombieDog said:

Is the Samsung 970 Evo plus m.2 ssd the highest end Samsung m.2? Looking to upgrade end from the confusing lists online that appears to be, but I want to confirm. I plan to get a 1tb as my boot drive to replace my full 250gb data ssd

Currently, yes and no. The 970 Pro as a MLC-based drive is technically superior. Also, the 980 Pro is coming out this year (more in Q2) and will likely have generation six 3D MLC. However among the TLC-based drives, the 970 EVO Plus has no peer at Samsung or anywhere else.

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1 hour ago, Shimejii said:

Im going to be straight up honest again. 99.5% of users do not need an NVME SSD. What exactly are you doing that would require the High End 970 Pro (soon to be 980 Pro PCIE 4.0)

 

nothing. i just want insane speeds. i want an M.2 as its faster then sata, and i want to have a 1TB+ drive for my boot drive, so i figured a 1TB m.2 would be great. any reason why i should go with a standard m.2 instead of a super high end 970 evo plus?

 

1 hour ago, JM21 said:

The only time I recommend NVME drives are if they have cache, this helps memory performance. But the 970evo is expensive, I recommend the HP EX920. 

are the speeds quite similar? i know the price for a 1TB is like 100$ less. but thats with all m.2 1TB ssds.

 

 


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M.2 is a form factor, you want an NVMe drive. "Speeds" is variable: what do you mean by speeds? Sequential? 4K mixed? What about latencies? Do you mean within the SLC cache or steady state? How full is the drive? These are all factors. If you want the very fastest PCIe 4.0 drive, WAIT. We have 12nm controllers coming, 128L flash, NVMe 1.4, etc. Prices will be higher (per GB) but you'll get something that's actually fast. If you don't want to wait, the 970 EVO Plus is the "fastest" all-around drive on the market right now. It won't hit the sequentials of the E16 drives, but who cares? It's not quite as good at 4K as the SM2262EN, so what? It's not as consistent as MLC, but great for TLC. Efficiency? Less than the SN750. Etc. There is no "best drive." I have my lists for a reason - categories, not tiers. Although honestly if you want the very fastest, NAND might not be the answer.

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1 minute ago, NewMaxx said:

M.2 is a form factor, you want an NVMe drive. "Speeds" is variable: what do you mean by speeds? Sequential? 4K mixed? What about latencies? Do you mean within the SLC cache or steady state? How full is the drive? These are all factors. If you want the very fastest PCIe 4.0 drive, WAIT. We have 12nm controllers coming, 128L flash, NVMe 1.4, etc. Prices will be higher (per GB) but you'll get something that's actually fast. If you don't want to wait, the 970 EVO Plus is the "fastest" all-around drive on the market right now. It won't hit the sequentials of the E16 drives, but who cares? It's not quite as good at 4K as the SM2262EN, so what? It's not as consistent as MLC, but great for TLC. Efficiency? Less than the SN750. Etc. There is no "best drive." I have my lists for a reason - categories, not tiers. Although honestly if you want the very fastest, NAND might not be the answer.

it will be replacing my basic PNY 250GB Sata SSD. i just want very fast speeds for my boot drive, through an NVME m.2 drive as i plan to upgrade my motherboard from the asus prime b350 Plus to the Asus ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi), along with other parts of my PC. im simply looking for even faster startup times, faster file transfer, opening, downloading e.t.c. im not getting one for any specific reason, just to boost read/write speeds from my sata ssd.


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52 minutes ago, LamoidZombieDog said:

are the speeds quite similar? i know the price for a 1TB is like 100$ less. but thats with all m.2 1TB ssds.

Yes very similar specs, slightly slower write speeds but otherwise basically identical.


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1 minute ago, JM21 said:

Yes very similar specs, slightly slower write speeds but otherwise basically identical.

Then how would it be possible to make it so much cheaper? if it really basically is the same then ill just save a lot of money and go with that. i have no reason to go with double the price just because of the Samsung logo on the front


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15 minutes ago, LamoidZombieDog said:

Then how would it be possible to make it so much cheaper? if it really basically is the same then ill just save a lot of money and go with that. i have no reason to go with double the price just because of the Samsung logo on the front

That is mostly what you pay for, you pay for the brand and marketing that comes with that brand.

 

EDIT: It's not that they spend more making the product, it's how much they choose to profit.


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8 minutes ago, LamoidZombieDog said:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hp-ex920-ssd,5527.html it seems the ex920 is still a lower end SSD though?

It's not lower end, it's a affordable and closely performing option to the "top tier' NVME Drives that are much higher priced. Waste of money to pay for something you won't even notice the performance difference of. But it is your decision. 


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19 minutes ago, JM21 said:

It's not lower end, it's a affordable and closely performing option to the "top tier' NVME Drives that are much higher priced. Waste of money to pay for something you won't even notice the performance difference of. But it is your decision. 

the Samsung Evo, is 3500MB/s Seq Read, 3300MB/s Seq write, 1GB Cache and 600TB TBW. The HP, is 3200MB/s Seq Read, 1800MB/s Seq Write, 300TBW. they are quite similar, but write Speed is much lower. will this be noticeable?


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13 hours ago, LamoidZombieDog said:

the Samsung Evo, is 3500MB/s Seq Read, 3300MB/s Seq write, 1GB Cache and 600TB TBW. The HP, is 3200MB/s Seq Read, 1800MB/s Seq Write, 300TBW. they are quite similar, but write Speed is much lower. will this be noticeable?

You won't notice it, I have 2 of these drives.


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