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Gigabyte X570 + 3900x elite vs ultra vs master

Thinking about pulling the trigger on a new build, two of my friends have the 3900x and gigabyte aorus ultra and are running xmp and nothing more.

 

I wanted to get input on which of these boards to go with.

 

My goals are mild OC on high end air cooling with 32g 4x8g ram 3600

 

wifi is useless in my books and onboard audio is in the same boat

 

Can I get input on the variety between these boards and maybe an alternative? I'm a die hard Asus fanboy (17 years? can't remember if first custom was asus or second) for personal rig's but feel like this time I can try something else.

 

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My current system is a hard line delidded 7600k@5ghz w 1070FE and I'm over pushing the envelope.  I will push this system until it's remotely unstable then stop.  Also I'm going air so I'll go to the limit's of that, but the hard line approach along with intel boning me has left me needing an entirely new system instead of a core upgrade ($100 x2 for cpu and gpu block makes any upgrade ridiculous).  Currently I'm worried about overclocking my system because it started crashing 5-6 times a night so a complete default in uefi and OS install and I'm good (crashed once last night).

 

I want stability bar none and any speed I can get in the process is a bonus, fine with stock esp on this chip.

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taichi for 4 sticks of ram, or master for the vrm heatsink, i recommend a 3950x over a 3900x since it's more than worth the difference imho, tighten ram timings, use a negative offset and let pbo do its job, aircoolers to look at: fuma2, d15, drp4. I'd go with air unless it's a 360mm AIO.

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9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

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1 minute ago, xg32 said:

taichi for 4 sticks of ram, or master for the vrm heatsink, i recommend a 3950x over a 3900x since it's more than worth the difference imho, tighten ram timings, use a negative offset and let pbo do its job, aircoolers to look at: fuma2, d15, drp4. I'd go with air unless it's a 360mm AIO.

I don't want to go ping pong balls deep

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DAC S.M.S.L SU-9

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Class-D amp Topping A70

Class-A amp Emotiva A-100 - Xduoo MT-602 (hybrid tube)

Pure Tube amp Darkvoice 336SE - Little dot MKII - Nobsound Little Bear P7

Audio Interface Rode AI-1

Portable Amp Xduoo XP2-pro - *Truthear SHIO - *Fiio BTR3K BTR3Kpro 

Mic Rode NT1 - *Antlion Mod Mic - *Neego Boom Mic - *Vmoda Boom Mic

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Just now, Psittac said:

I don't want to go ping pong balls deep

it's already deep with a 300usd mobo and a 500usd cpu, then there are the power draw difference between the 3900x and 3950x, it's binned to the point where the 3950x actually draws less power, but i guess to each his own.

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

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5 minutes ago, xg32 said:

it's already deep with a 300usd mobo and a 500usd cpu, then there are the power draw difference between the 3900x and 3950x, it's binned to the point where the 3950x actually draws less power, but i guess to each his own.

the 3900x will do everything I need it to for years to come.  I'm going to sell my two server's and two of my desktop's to get the money for this and I'm going to run it 24/7.  Then I'll have a plex server, a VM and a gaming machine all in one.  The 3950x for 50% increase in price isn't worth it in my book and will turn my venture into an out of pocket one which I'm trying to avoid

 

*edit oh I just understood your original post. but what's pbo?  is the negative offset to run asynchronis memory?

 

*edit again: would be a bigger fan of asrock, asus's step brother/sister

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Class-D amp Topping A70

Class-A amp Emotiva A-100 - Xduoo MT-602 (hybrid tube)

Pure Tube amp Darkvoice 336SE - Little dot MKII - Nobsound Little Bear P7

Audio Interface Rode AI-1

Portable Amp Xduoo XP2-pro - *Truthear SHIO - *Fiio BTR3K BTR3Kpro 

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Stay with the 3900x, it fits your needs and budget.  I myself am on the Pro WiFi since I like saving 1 USB port if I ever need to connect to my WiFI for whatever reason, plus it comes with Bluetooth.  A 3900x on anything Pro and up is a good choice, it's only the small differences that separate the rest.  Only the XTreme has a slightly more powerful VRM setup, and anything below it right to the Pro uses the same components.

 

There's a spreadsheet that Gigabyte has provided that lists the differences, let me go find it.  You could also take a look here, pretty active thread https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1728360-gigabyte-x570-aorus-owners-thread.html

 

 

EDIT : Found it

 

  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CnA5xLV4F9_x99QBE0lxWcDxGctE9eBRUg_GwHjM9z0/edit

 

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33 minutes ago, Psittac said:

the 3900x will do everything I need it to for years to come.  I'm going to sell my two server's and two of my desktop's to get the money for this and I'm going to run it 24/7.  Then I'll have a plex server, a VM and a gaming machine all in one.  The 3950x for 50% increase in price isn't worth it in my book and will turn my venture into an out of pocket one which I'm trying to avoid

 

*edit oh I just understood your original post. but what's pbo?  is the negative offset to run asynchronis memory?

 

*edit again: would be a bigger fan of asrock, asus's step brother/sister

the stock voltages on zen 2 are a bit overkill, so a negative voltage offset is recommended, it'll still boost to 4.2ghz, just lower temps.

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

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