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Gigabyte X570 + 3900x elite vs ultra vs master

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Thinking about pulling the trigger on a new build, two of my friends have the 3900x and gigabyte aorus ultra and are running xmp and nothing more.

 

I wanted to get input on which of these boards to go with.

 

My goals are mild OC on high end air cooling with 32g 4x8g ram 3600

 

wifi is useless in my books and onboard audio is in the same boat

 

Can I get input on the variety between these boards and maybe an alternative? I'm a die hard Asus fanboy (17 years? can't remember if first custom was asus or second) for personal rig's but feel like this time I can try something else.

 

For Color:

My current system is a hard line delidded 7600k@5ghz w 1070FE and I'm over pushing the envelope.  I will push this system until it's remotely unstable then stop.  Also I'm going air so I'll go to the limit's of that, but the hard line approach along with intel boning me has left me needing an entirely new system instead of a core upgrade ($100 x2 for cpu and gpu block makes any upgrade ridiculous).  Currently I'm worried about overclocking my system because it started crashing 5-6 times a night so a complete default in uefi and OS install and I'm good (crashed once last night).

 

I want stability bar none and any speed I can get in the process is a bonus, fine with stock esp on this chip.

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taichi for 4 sticks of ram, or master for the vrm heatsink, i recommend a 3950x over a 3900x since it's more than worth the difference imho, tighten ram timings, use a negative offset and let pbo do its job, aircoolers to look at: fuma2, d15, drp4. I'd go with air unless it's a 360mm AIO.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, xg32 said:

taichi for 4 sticks of ram, or master for the vrm heatsink, i recommend a 3950x over a 3900x since it's more than worth the difference imho, tighten ram timings, use a negative offset and let pbo do its job, aircoolers to look at: fuma2, d15, drp4. I'd go with air unless it's a 360mm AIO.

I don't want to go ping pong balls deep

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Just now, Psittac said:

I don't want to go ping pong balls deep

it's already deep with a 300usd mobo and a 500usd cpu, then there are the power draw difference between the 3900x and 3950x, it's binned to the point where the 3950x actually draws less power, but i guess to each his own.


9900k 1.39v 5.2 83C 185w 1.24v 4.9 60C 135w 1.05v 4.5 90w 50C (doing some testing for hot days) all-2avx cinebench/blender temps. avx voltages in prime. ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios fixed LLC voltage gaps ll gskill 2x8gb cl16 ddr4000 bdie 1.42v ll EVGA 2080 ti XC (duo fan skinny) 1995//7600 power limited 79C max, stock voltage (really bad ocer) ll 2x samsung 860 evo 500gb raid 0 ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll Corsair graphite 780T ll EVGA G2 1300w ll Windows 10 Pro ll NEC PA272w (movie, work mon) 2k60 14bit lut ll Predator X27 4k144 hdr (rgb98)

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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, xg32 said:

it's already deep with a 300usd mobo and a 500usd cpu, then there are the power draw difference between the 3900x and 3950x, it's binned to the point where the 3950x actually draws less power, but i guess to each his own.

the 3900x will do everything I need it to for years to come.  I'm going to sell my two server's and two of my desktop's to get the money for this and I'm going to run it 24/7.  Then I'll have a plex server, a VM and a gaming machine all in one.  The 3950x for 50% increase in price isn't worth it in my book and will turn my venture into an out of pocket one which I'm trying to avoid

 

*edit oh I just understood your original post. but what's pbo?  is the negative offset to run asynchronis memory?

 

*edit again: would be a bigger fan of asrock, asus's step brother/sister

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Stay with the 3900x, it fits your needs and budget.  I myself am on the Pro WiFi since I like saving 1 USB port if I ever need to connect to my WiFI for whatever reason, plus it comes with Bluetooth.  A 3900x on anything Pro and up is a good choice, it's only the small differences that separate the rest.  Only the XTreme has a slightly more powerful VRM setup, and anything below it right to the Pro uses the same components.

 

There's a spreadsheet that Gigabyte has provided that lists the differences, let me go find it.  You could also take a look here, pretty active thread https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1728360-gigabyte-x570-aorus-owners-thread.html

 

 

EDIT : Found it

 

  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CnA5xLV4F9_x99QBE0lxWcDxGctE9eBRUg_GwHjM9z0/edit

 


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33 minutes ago, Psittac said:

the 3900x will do everything I need it to for years to come.  I'm going to sell my two server's and two of my desktop's to get the money for this and I'm going to run it 24/7.  Then I'll have a plex server, a VM and a gaming machine all in one.  The 3950x for 50% increase in price isn't worth it in my book and will turn my venture into an out of pocket one which I'm trying to avoid

 

*edit oh I just understood your original post. but what's pbo?  is the negative offset to run asynchronis memory?

 

*edit again: would be a bigger fan of asrock, asus's step brother/sister

the stock voltages on zen 2 are a bit overkill, so a negative voltage offset is recommended, it'll still boost to 4.2ghz, just lower temps.


9900k 1.39v 5.2 83C 185w 1.24v 4.9 60C 135w 1.05v 4.5 90w 50C (doing some testing for hot days) all-2avx cinebench/blender temps. avx voltages in prime. ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios fixed LLC voltage gaps ll gskill 2x8gb cl16 ddr4000 bdie 1.42v ll EVGA 2080 ti XC (duo fan skinny) 1995//7600 power limited 79C max, stock voltage (really bad ocer) ll 2x samsung 860 evo 500gb raid 0 ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll Corsair graphite 780T ll EVGA G2 1300w ll Windows 10 Pro ll NEC PA272w (movie, work mon) 2k60 14bit lut ll Predator X27 4k144 hdr (rgb98)

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