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120mm vs 360mm AIO question..

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I had a 120mm Kraken M22 AIO in my old system cooling my 8700K and I’m doing a new build and replacing it with this 360mm AIO and I’m wondering..

 

Does anyone have an estimate of how much of a temperature decrease I should get by putting the 360mm AIO in?

 

Im able to get a 4.7-4.8 GHZ overclock with the 120mm aio before high temps become a problem and I’m wondering if the 360mm aio will be enough to get me to a 5 Ghz overclock?

 

Here are the two AIOs for reference:

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Overclocks depend on a whole lot more than just cooling, so no one is going to be able to answer that for you.

As for temps, you have to go research them. Find out what the drop is over ambient for each cooler, and you'll have your answer.

Generally, yes, the larger cooler will be better, but it's hard to say by how much. Coolers don't perform the same.


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1 hour ago, dizmo said:

Overclocks depend on a whole lot more than just cooling, so no one is going to be able to answer that for you.

As for temps, you have to go research them. Find out what the drop is over ambient for each cooler, and you'll have your answer.

Generally, yes, the larger cooler will be better, but it's hard to say by how much. Coolers don't perform the same.

Well as I said, in my case the only thing holding my cpu back from 5 Ghz is temperature.

 

If I could cut my temps by ~10C I would be able to have a stable 5 Ghz overclock.
 

Im sure there can’t be that much variance in how the same cooler performs on the same cpu.

 

My question was directed more towards people who also have 8700K CPUs and who may have used this particular cooler and could share their experience about what temps they got with it when overclocking.

 

Or it they haven’t, people who have gone from a 120mm aio to a 360mm aio and what temperature differences they saw.

 

Even if they did use a different 360mm cooler than me they could make an educated guesstimate.

 

Im not asking for exact scientifically validated answers. I’m just looking for guesses, estimates, and ball park predictions.

 

Something as simple as “It should cut your temps by anywhere from 5C to 20C” would leave room for a wide margin of error or variables.

 

Trust me, I’m not going to rage at or file a lawsuit against someone if I don’t get the exact results that they’re predicting.


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12 minutes ago, GamerBlake said:

Well as I said, in my case the only thing holding my cpu back from 5 Ghz is temperature.

If I could cut my temps by ~10C I would be able to have a stable 5 Ghz overclock.
 

Im sure there can’t be that much variance in how the same cooler performs on the same cpu.

 

My question was directed more towards people who also have 8700K CPUs and who may have used this particular cooler and could share their experience about what temps they got with it when overclocking.

 

Or it they haven’t, people who have gone from a 120mm aio to a 360mm aio and what temperature differences they saw.

 

Even if they did use a different 360mm cooler than me they could make an educated guesstimate.

 

Im not asking for exact scientifically validated answers. I’m just looking for guesses, estimates, and ball park predictions.

 

Something as simple as “It should cut your temps by anywhere from 5C to 20C” would leave room for a wide margin of error or variables.

 

Trust me, I’m not going to rage at or file a lawsuit against someone if I don’t get the exact results that they’re predicting.

That's not how you worded it. You said you can get to 4.8ghz and asked if you can hit 5.0ghz with a better cooler. No one knows if your chip can accomplish that.

Sure, it's probably possible, but it's also completely possible you just weren't that lucky in the silicone lottery.

If you have already hit 5.0ghz, you should have stated that. You didn't.

 

Yes, but their ambient temperature is going to change the results they get, and the numbers they see, so unless they also have a thermometer in the room, the results are rather pointless.

 

Again, if they've gone from a 120mm to a 360mm it depends greatly on the cooler their using, and again, their ambient temperature.

 

Why would you want guesses and ball park predictions? That's kind of useless. You can just make the same guesses on your own.

Or, here's an idea. Spend 8 minutes, go look up reviews on both, and you'll have your answer. You just have to look at the ambient temperatures and do a second of basic math.

 

Yes, you're right. One could just say it'll reduce it between 5c and 20c. There. I said it. You got your pointless, factless ballpark answer.

 

 

 

 


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On 1/19/2020 at 5:40 PM, GamerBlake said:

I had a 120mm Kraken M22 AIO in my old system cooling my 8700K and I’m doing a new build and replacing it with this 360mm AIO and I’m wondering..

 

Does anyone have an estimate of how much of a temperature decrease I should get by putting the 360mm AIO in?

 

Im able to get a 4.7-4.8 GHZ overclock with the 120mm aio before high temps become a problem and I’m wondering if the 360mm aio will be enough to get me to a 5 Ghz overclock?

 

Here are the two AIOs for reference:

E45D7863-EE46-4C2E-A0CC-90F544350D4A.jpeg

F772A963-3595-4964-B772-1ABF4AEC7A01.jpeg

so many factors the would go in to it. the best 120 io vs the cheapest 360 io.

the rads will be different, pumps, fans, cpu block fins, would all give different results so....

also it depends on what your ambient temperature vs some one els across the world

also your case cooling should add to the cooling of the cpu in some way so that be even more randomness

 

if you wanted to do a test you would need the same rads just 1 is bigger and do the test with one person reusing all the same hardware and temp controlled room.

you should get better temps with a bigger rad but how much don't no.

 

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