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Can someone look over my list of parts? Recommendations would be great!

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1 minute ago, MAXimum01 said:

Would you say take the B450M and save $70? then i can get a better GPU or CPU.

I would, because I dont care how an mATX board looks in an ATX case. If you go with mATX case then there's a very big chance that the next board you want to put in doesnt fit. mATX is a dying form factor for performance.

 

1 minute ago, MAXimum01 said:

Would you say i could almost get a tomahawk B450 motherboard and maybe start off with a 2.5" SSD and then as M.2 get cheaper and better i would possibly buy one?

I never found my experience with HP EX920 (PCIE 3.0 x4) any different to my Samsung 840 Pro (SATA), apart from the fact that the Pro only has 1/4 the capacity. Dont need NVMe for gaming.


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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34 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I would, because I dont care how an mATX board looks in an ATX case. If you go with mATX case then there's a very big chance that the next board you want to put in doesnt fit. mATX is a dying form factor for performance.

 

I never found my experience with HP EX920 (PCIE 3.0 x4) any different to my Samsung 840 Pro (SATA), apart from the fact that the Pro only has 1/4 the capacity. Dont need NVMe for gaming.

Ok thats a great recommendation! i think ill go with the B450M unless you say get the tomahawk as the prices on those two are just too good!! I think ill keep the Meshify Case then for later use. 

Ive talked to someone and im going to get the crucial 1tb SSD for $189 for the boot drive and have my 4TB HHD barracuda as the place where i stire games, movies and well everything.

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54 minutes ago, MAXimum01 said:

crucial 1tb SSD

the P1 or the MX500? As a QLC SSD, the P1 may be faster normally but slows down a lot more significantly in larger writes.


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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17 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

the P1 or the MX500? As a QLC SSD, the P1 may be faster normally but slows down a lot more significantly in larger writes.

The P1. Ohh i didn't know that about SSD's by larger writes do you mean the ~75% full rule (where ssd's slow donwn) or larger files?

Do you have any recommendations? i liked the look of the HP EX920 but it currently not available in Australia.

 

Edit: is Adata SX8200's good? Or intels 660p?  

Oh wait writes is its lifespan right! no i think i remember what they are lol

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2 hours ago, MAXimum01 said:

The P1. Ohh i didn't know that about SSD's by larger writes do you mean the ~75% full rule (where ssd's slow donwn) or larger files?

Writing at once, say 50GB into the SSD at once regardless of number of files. TLC and QLC drives all slow down once they use up their SLC cache, for 1TB SSDs that's usually set anywhere from 35GB to 50GB, but it reduces as empty space reduces. QLC is hit much harder than TLC, sometimes QLC can slow down to HDD levels.

 

2 hours ago, MAXimum01 said:

Edit: is Adata SX8200's good? Or intels 660p?

660p is also QLC with the same controller, only difference is the manufacturer of the QLC NAND tbh

 

SX8200 is a much better drive than the QLC ones, even though it's I think a year older.

 

2 hours ago, MAXimum01 said:

Oh wait writes is its lifespan right! no i think i remember what they are lol

Yes, reads barely wear them out compared to writes.


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 hours ago, MAXimum01 said:

The P1. Ohh i didn't know that about SSD's by larger writes do you mean the ~75% full rule (where ssd's slow donwn) or larger files?

Do you have any recommendations? i liked the look of the HP EX920 but it currently not available in Australia.

 

Edit: is Adata SX8200's good? Or intels 660p?  

Oh wait writes is its lifespan right! no i think i remember what they are lol

check the ssd tier list in my signature

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3 hours ago, boggy77 said:

check the ssd tier list in my signature

i had a look, i might get a 1TB Corsair MP510 for $219 compared to Crucial's P1 at $189 and it moves up 2 tiers on your list! do you think that the $30 more is worth it?

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5 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Writing at once, say 50GB into the SSD at once regardless of number of files. TLC and QLC drives all slow down once they use up their SLC cache, for 1TB SSDs that's usually set anywhere from 35GB to 50GB, but it reduces as empty space reduces. QLC is hit much harder than TLC, sometimes QLC can slow down to HDD levels.

 

660p is also QLC with the same controller, only difference is the manufacturer of the QLC NAND tbh

 

SX8200 is a much better drive than the QLC ones, even though it's I think a year older.

 

Yes, reads barely wear them out compared to writes.

Thankyou for explaining that! i think im either sticking to the crucial P1 or Corsair MP510. (i wouldn't mind your opinion on which one)

I swear i only have afew more questions left. Because of the SSD size i wanted to save money elsewhere. And im down to have 140mm fans too... these are just really cheap!!

 

Edit: should I maybe get a 3 pack or 2 pack and get some 140mm fans and not cheap out on a 4x fans for $19. Though the caee cones with 2x fans already so it will be filled with 6

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On 1/20/2020 at 9:12 PM, MAXimum01 said:

For buying a new PC and dishing out (for me) alot of money, i want to purchase off sites that mates have used or i know is trustworthy. Sorry i thought u meant to purchase of sites like Newegg, which apparently in Australia isnt very good at all and so "Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($310.20 @ Newegg Australia)" i wouldn't want to get from them despite the price. But thankyou ive actually changed my build abit because of the parts list 

I'm confused by this as well... Amazon is by and large the largest online retailer in the world. They offer returns on literally anything sold through their services, and generally competitive rates.

I'm unsure why exactly you're referring to them as unreliable.

 

Newegg is a worldwide go-to for computer components. I can't imagine your experience would be any different there.

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3 hours ago, MAXimum01 said:

Thankyou for explaining that! i think im either sticking to the crucial P1 or Corsair MP510. (i wouldn't mind your opinion on which one)

MP510 is another TLC NVMe drive, its speed is basically double that of the P1 or 660p

 

 


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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11 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

MP510 is another TLC NVMe drive, its speed is basically double that of the P1 or 660p

 

 

ok for sure ill get the MP510

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13 hours ago, trevb0t said:

I'm confused by this as well... Amazon is by and large the largest online retailer in the world. They offer returns on literally anything sold through their services, and generally competitive rates.

I'm unsure why exactly you're referring to them as unreliable.

 

Newegg is a worldwide go-to for computer components. I can't imagine your experience would be any different there.

ive just never bought anything from amazon before... and i dont think i know anyone who has. They only recently 'moved' to Australia, and spending around $2000 on a PC i guess i want to go somewhere that i know... i looked up reviews though and amazon seems good! so if they have a cheaper item ill be happy to buy it.

 

Newegg actually has pretty horrible reviews and im not even saving that much money.. so it really is a no from me. and as a worldwide "go to" ive never heard of them. Amazon at least is world renown. 

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