Will intel release more 10980XE?

[THE_maverick]

Given it is impossible to buy one i wonder if anyone knows (sure speculation is fine too) if they did a first release date so rushed that they only had so many units and they will release more in the future, or if that was it.

[Kilrah]

AFAIK they simply haven't started shipping at all yet?

[porina]

I've not been following availability but in a quick look right now, I see the 10940X in stock at one of my preferred stores, but not 10980XE. So at least some of the range are out there. I'd expect them to be generally available. Shortages are not unusual for any new product.

[GoldenLag]

32 minutes ago, THE_maverick said:

they will release more in the future, or if that was it.

They will supply whenever they can.

 

Meanwhile you can get the 9980xe and 7980xe on offer for the same price iirc. 

 

And its not like they are all that different.

 

And unless you need avx512 you can get something else

[porina]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Meanwhile you can get the 9980xe and 7980xe on offer for the same price iirc. 

The main difference is VNNI instructions added to AVX-512 with the 10 series. Older ones have AVX-512 without that.

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, porina said:

The main difference is VNNI instructions added to AVX-512 with the 10 series. Older ones have AVX-512 without that.

Yeah there were something to them i was forgetting. 

[porina]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Yeah there were something to them i was forgetting. 

That's the main difference, apart from the obvious list pricing change. I think there was also something about including fixes for Spectre/Meltdown, but who knows if this is in silicon updates or just baked in microcode from the start. For most users, Cascade Lake-X is effectively same as Skylake-X. General AVX-512 support is kinda niche still (but really helps when present), and VNNI is going to be an even smaller proportion of that.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, porina said:

That's the main difference, apart from the obvious list pricing change. I think there was also something about including fixes for Spectre/Meltdown, but who knows if this is in silicon updates or just baked in microcode from the start. For most users, Cascade Lake-X is effectively same as Skylake-X. General AVX-512 support is kinda niche still (but really helps when present), and VNNI is going to be an even smaller proportion of that.

Its cascade lake-x on the skylake X plattform. A bit odd core performance and it has some in silicon fixes for meltdown. How much it fixes i dont remember

[THE_maverick]

On 1/17/2020 at 11:53 PM, GoldenLag said:

They will supply whenever they can.

 

Meanwhile you can get the 9980xe and 7980xe on offer for the same price iirc. 

 

And its not like they are all that different.

 

And unless you need avx512 you can get something else

Actually no.  Given the shortage a 9980xe is right now going for 2.5-3K USD.  Same with the entire lineup, bc supply and demand.  

 

I did wanna say that i got lucky that for like a few hours the 9940 was at 700USD which is what the new chip would cost so i did manage to get one.  By the next morning price was back to 1300.