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Ryzen 5 3600 is like a hyperactive child (Probably all 3rd gen Ryzens)

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Even while I am at desktop or doing some light browsing, the cpu can't just sit and relax. It's going up and down when I am doing things that are way below its belt. I am tired of hearing that high pitched wraith fan noise keep changing. Is there any medicine for this hyperactive child so that it shuts up and sits down? Without killing too much of the performance.

 

I am also worried about reliability. I got an Intel CPU / Nvidia GPU laptop that has total on time of 43.000 hours and still works perfectly. 43.000 HOURS! It didn't get there by jumping up and down every half a second. I wonder how long would this CPU last since it's jumping 10c every few seconds when its "wake up from sleep" voltage triggers. I doubt it can take this abuse for thousands of hours because the abuse is on every second CPU is on.

 

I don't even check any temp monitors anymore. I just set the fan to speed up at 55C and slow down below that in BIOS and listen to the CPU go apeshit while I am reading a text on a word document. I tried different fan curves, still the same result. It quickly hits that threshold if the fans aren't turning, cools down, gets the voltage and heats up again. 

 

Edit: BIOS, Windows 10, and firmware are all up to date.

 

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>thinking about finally updating my q6600 to 3950x

>read a thread like this

>have second thoughts and start thinking about waiting for the next 4xxxx series

>repeat until infinite

 

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9 minutes ago, lafrente said:

I got an Intel CPU / Nvidia GPU laptop that has total on time of 43.000 hours and still works perfectly. 43.000 HOURS! It didn't get there by jumping up and down every half a second.

a laptop wouldn't favor this type of sporadic CPU behavior because it would be a detriment to the battery life. Desktop CPUs are more aggressive because they have the room to be. My 8086k is also sporadic in "idle" state, jumping up in temps and frequency for seemingly nothing. It's windows, not the CPU.


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

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2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

a laptop wouldn't favor this type of sporadic CPU behavior because it would be a detriment to the battery life. Desktop CPUs are more aggressive because they have the room to be. My 8086k is also sporadic in "idle" state, jumping up in temps and frequency for seemingly nothing. It's windows, not the CPU.

I got an Intel desktop that is close to 30.000 hours and it doesn't have this kind of behavior.

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1usmus power plan?


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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37 minutes ago, Windows95 said:

>thinking about finally updating my q6600 to 3950x

>read a thread like this

>have second thoughts and start thinking about waiting for the next 4xxxx series

>repeat until infinite

 

fml

>thinking about finally updating my q6600   amd e1 apu to atholon 200ge

>read a thread like this

>have second thoughts and start thinking about waiting for the next 4xxxx series

>repeat until infinite

 

fml

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37 minutes ago, lafrente said:

I got an Intel desktop that is close to 30.000 hours and it doesn't have this kind of behavior.

yeah so it's not consistent, there you have it

 

not really an amd specific thing. some people did note the early problems with idle voltage but that was a while ago.


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

EVGA G3 threadSeasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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The processor is well designed in the SenseMi technology runs it super efficiently providing maximum performance within it's rated thermal thresholds. 

Rated (as most of the components are in your rig) to 100 thousand hours, it'll last as long as it needs to. That's about 11.5 Years life expectancy AT STOCK.

 

Yea, they boost high volts and the cpu feels that single core boost at 1.50v is necessary,  however.... it's a transistor. Same X86 design for decades now. They've just been shrinking the die and transistor size, but the voltages haven't changed much through the years while we gander at the scaling.

 

It was normal to see 1.5v on 130nm, 90nm, 65nm, 45nm, All of them at some particular frequency would use 1.5v or more. 

AMD FX-9590 came out stock with 5ghz boost clocks with a boost P-state voltage of 1.5250v. 

 

As a rule of thumb, at 1.6v you are using chilling on just about all of the above mentioned die sizes. 

 

People sweat too much without the understanding. Do some research, ask the right questions. 

 

And to run it "cool and quiet" you set windows power plan to "power saving" (adjust the sleep timers to your needs) and it'll throttle to it's lowest p-state and become super energy efficient. Or just set up a fan profile.


 

Lid-less PGA 2700x / ROG B450-I Gaming / G.Skill 3600mhz B-Die / GTX 980 bmod / Antec 850w CP series

Lid-less 8700K / Maximus X Hero / G.Skill 4266mhz B-Die / VGA any benching rig / Antec 1000w CP series

 

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