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Posted · Original PosterOP

So I am about to buy my components and I have been watching some reviews on the Asrock Radeon RX 5700 non xt 8 GB challenger and now I’m having second thoughts my price range is up to around 400-450. I’m also open to some good air CPU coolers and I will overclock, don’t want anything higher than 80$

 

Here are my specs 

 

MSI B450 Tomahawk

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB

Samsung 860 EVO SSD

NZXT 510 ATX

Corsair CXM 550 W ATX

Noctua NH-L9i

 

 

 

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I'd look for a used 1080 or 1080Ti, honestly.

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Scythe Ninja 5 for the cooler should be fine if you want a cheaper yet beefier one.

 

Uh are you fine with used GPUs or does it have to be new?


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| CPU:  Ryzen 3 2200g(buying a 3900x in August for it) | CPU Cooler:  Stock at the moment(have a dark rock pro 4 for that 3900x) | Paste:  Kryonaut | Motherboard:  ASRock x470 Taichi(replacing with a Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite) | RAM:  G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 48 GB (2 x 16 GB + 2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 | Boot Drives:  Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280+Crucial BX500 120 GB 2.5" SSD | Storage Drives:  Toshiba X300 4 TB 128 MB Cache 3.5" HDD+PNY CS900 240 GB | GPU:  Sapphire Radeon VII 16 GB HBM2 Video Card | Case:  Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 RGB | PSU:  EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply w/CableMod E-Series Cable Kit (Black/Red) | Case Fans:  2 Corsair SP140 49.49 CFM 140 mm Fans | Displays:  AOC U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor (Replacing with an LG 4k IPS display for game art)+AOC G2460PQU 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor | Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro RGB | Keyboard:  Ducky Shine 7 Blackout - MK Exclusive First Release - RGB LED Double Shot PBT Mechanical Keyboard with Silent Red Switches | Mousepad:  Gaya Entertainment Oversized Gaming Mousepad Doom | Audio:  Massdrop x AKG K7XX Audiophile Open-back Headphones+Audio-Technica ATR2500-USB Cardioid Condenser USB Microphone+Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset+iBasso IT01 Dynamic Driver Audiophile In-Ear Monitors/Earbuds (Black)+Pair of Mackie MR624s(came with stands+isolation pads) | OSes:  Windows 10 Pro+openSUSE Tumbleweed |



VashTheStampede(ROG Zephyrus M GU502):

| CPU:  i7-9750h | RAM:  32GB Dual Channel 2666mhz CL 19(Stock+Samsung 16GB DDR4 PC4-21300, 2666MHZ, 260 PIN SODIMM, 1.2V, CL 19 ) | Storage:  1TB SSD with Optane | GPU:  Nvidia RTX 2060 | Display:  144hz 3ms | Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro |

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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Scythe Ninja 5 for the cooler should be fine if you want a cheaper yet beefier one.

 

Uh are you fine with used GPUs or does it have to be new?

I think I want something new

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7 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I'd look for a used 1080 or 1080Ti, honestly.

If I were to stay with Radeon RX 5700

are there any brands with better performance for a similar price. I think what I’m asking is if Asrock a good option

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3 minutes ago, ferariforests said:

I think I want something new

For something new I think the 5700xt is a good choice and its right in your price range. You could also look at a 2060s but the 5700xt is a better card than the 2060s. Don't know much about the Asrock card, personally i have a PowerColor 5700xt, its been great thsu far. 

 

Edit: I have the Power Color Red Devil which I believe I paid like $420 for

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Just now, ferariforests said:

If I were to stay with Radeon RX 5700

are there any brands with better performance for a similar price. I think what I’m asking is if Asrock a good option

It's not a terrible option.

 

I honestly forgot they were even in the GPU business to begin with, but I seem to recall their cards were decent.

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26 minutes ago, ferariforests said:

So I am about to buy my components and I have been watching some reviews on the Asrock Radeon RX 5700 non xt 8 GB challenger and now I’m having second thoughts my price range is up to around 400-450. I’m also open to some good air CPU coolers and I will overclock, don’t want anything higher than 80$

 

Here are my specs 

 

MSI B450 Tomahawk

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB

Samsung 860 EVO SSD

NZXT 510 ATX

Corsair CXM 550 W ATX

Noctua NH-L9i

 

 

 

for the cpu cooler, i think either go with a freezer 34 for 40usd or get a d15/drp4 for 80, skip everything in the middle

for the gpu, spend as little as possible while going for bang 4 buck performance, which leaves the 5700 at 300usd as the only choice

we have a definitive launch date for next gen gpu (6-9 month) and consoles that are around 12tflops (november), so the less you spend right now the better.

 

the DD has good reviews

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16814150828?Description=rx 5700&cm_re=rx_5700-_-14-150-828-_-Product


9900k 1.39v 5.2 83C 185w 1.24v 4.9 60C 135w 1.05v 4.5 90w 50C (doing some testing for hot days) all-2avx cinebench/blender temps. avx voltages in prime. ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios fixed LLC voltage gaps ll gskill 2x8gb cl16 ddr4000 bdie 1.42v ll EVGA 2080 ti XC (duo fan skinny) 1995//7600 power limited 79C max, stock voltage (really bad ocer) ll 2x samsung 860 evo 500gb raid 0 ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll Corsair graphite 780T ll EVGA G2 1300w ll Windows 10 Pro ll NEC PA272w (movie, work mon) 2k60 14bit lut ll Predator X27 4k144 hdr (rgb98)

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8 minutes ago, xg32 said:

for the cpu cooler, i think either go with a freezer 34 for 40usd or get a d15/drp4 for 80, skip everything in the middle

for the gpu, spend as little as possible while going for bang 4 buck performance, which leaves the 5700 at 300usd as the only choice

we have a definitive launch date for next gen gpu (6-9 month) and consoles that are around 12tflops (november), so the less you spend right now the better.

 

the DD has good reviews

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16814150828?Description=rx 5700&cm_re=rx_5700-_-14-150-828-_-Product

DRP4 and D15 are usually over 80 lately.  Unless they went down.   Those aren't the only 2 at that tier btw.  They're just far more popular than most due to sponsorship/advertisements.  DRP4 = 89, D15 = 90ish.


Bloodshed and the Fenris-Wolf:

| CPU:  Ryzen 3 2200g(buying a 3900x in August for it) | CPU Cooler:  Stock at the moment(have a dark rock pro 4 for that 3900x) | Paste:  Kryonaut | Motherboard:  ASRock x470 Taichi(replacing with a Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite) | RAM:  G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 48 GB (2 x 16 GB + 2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 | Boot Drives:  Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280+Crucial BX500 120 GB 2.5" SSD | Storage Drives:  Toshiba X300 4 TB 128 MB Cache 3.5" HDD+PNY CS900 240 GB | GPU:  Sapphire Radeon VII 16 GB HBM2 Video Card | Case:  Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 RGB | PSU:  EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply w/CableMod E-Series Cable Kit (Black/Red) | Case Fans:  2 Corsair SP140 49.49 CFM 140 mm Fans | Displays:  AOC U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor (Replacing with an LG 4k IPS display for game art)+AOC G2460PQU 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor | Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro RGB | Keyboard:  Ducky Shine 7 Blackout - MK Exclusive First Release - RGB LED Double Shot PBT Mechanical Keyboard with Silent Red Switches | Mousepad:  Gaya Entertainment Oversized Gaming Mousepad Doom | Audio:  Massdrop x AKG K7XX Audiophile Open-back Headphones+Audio-Technica ATR2500-USB Cardioid Condenser USB Microphone+Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset+iBasso IT01 Dynamic Driver Audiophile In-Ear Monitors/Earbuds (Black)+Pair of Mackie MR624s(came with stands+isolation pads) | OSes:  Windows 10 Pro+openSUSE Tumbleweed |



VashTheStampede(ROG Zephyrus M GU502):

| CPU:  i7-9750h | RAM:  32GB Dual Channel 2666mhz CL 19(Stock+Samsung 16GB DDR4 PC4-21300, 2666MHZ, 260 PIN SODIMM, 1.2V, CL 19 ) | Storage:  1TB SSD with Optane | GPU:  Nvidia RTX 2060 | Display:  144hz 3ms | Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro |

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Posted · Original PosterOP
26 minutes ago, TheBahrbarian said:

For something new I think the 5700xt is a good choice and its right in your price range. You could also look at a 2060s but the 5700xt is a better card than the 2060s. Don't know much about the Asrock card, personally i have a PowerColor 5700xt, its been great thsu far. 

 

Edit: I have the Power Color Red Devil which I believe I paid like $420 for

Is it reliable though

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4 minutes ago, ferariforests said:

Is it reliable though

Yes


Bloodshed and the Fenris-Wolf:

| CPU:  Ryzen 3 2200g(buying a 3900x in August for it) | CPU Cooler:  Stock at the moment(have a dark rock pro 4 for that 3900x) | Paste:  Kryonaut | Motherboard:  ASRock x470 Taichi(replacing with a Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite) | RAM:  G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 48 GB (2 x 16 GB + 2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 | Boot Drives:  Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280+Crucial BX500 120 GB 2.5" SSD | Storage Drives:  Toshiba X300 4 TB 128 MB Cache 3.5" HDD+PNY CS900 240 GB | GPU:  Sapphire Radeon VII 16 GB HBM2 Video Card | Case:  Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 RGB | PSU:  EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply w/CableMod E-Series Cable Kit (Black/Red) | Case Fans:  2 Corsair SP140 49.49 CFM 140 mm Fans | Displays:  AOC U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor (Replacing with an LG 4k IPS display for game art)+AOC G2460PQU 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor | Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro RGB | Keyboard:  Ducky Shine 7 Blackout - MK Exclusive First Release - RGB LED Double Shot PBT Mechanical Keyboard with Silent Red Switches | Mousepad:  Gaya Entertainment Oversized Gaming Mousepad Doom | Audio:  Massdrop x AKG K7XX Audiophile Open-back Headphones+Audio-Technica ATR2500-USB Cardioid Condenser USB Microphone+Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset+iBasso IT01 Dynamic Driver Audiophile In-Ear Monitors/Earbuds (Black)+Pair of Mackie MR624s(came with stands+isolation pads) | OSes:  Windows 10 Pro+openSUSE Tumbleweed |



VashTheStampede(ROG Zephyrus M GU502):

| CPU:  i7-9750h | RAM:  32GB Dual Channel 2666mhz CL 19(Stock+Samsung 16GB DDR4 PC4-21300, 2666MHZ, 260 PIN SODIMM, 1.2V, CL 19 ) | Storage:  1TB SSD with Optane | GPU:  Nvidia RTX 2060 | Display:  144hz 3ms | Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro |

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1 minute ago, ferariforests said:

How much was it and what is your average FPS for the games you play

Well, it wasn't me you quoted tha time.  But, for Navi and Vega PowerColor's Devil line are top performers.


Bloodshed and the Fenris-Wolf:

| CPU:  Ryzen 3 2200g(buying a 3900x in August for it) | CPU Cooler:  Stock at the moment(have a dark rock pro 4 for that 3900x) | Paste:  Kryonaut | Motherboard:  ASRock x470 Taichi(replacing with a Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite) | RAM:  G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 48 GB (2 x 16 GB + 2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 | Boot Drives:  Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280+Crucial BX500 120 GB 2.5" SSD | Storage Drives:  Toshiba X300 4 TB 128 MB Cache 3.5" HDD+PNY CS900 240 GB | GPU:  Sapphire Radeon VII 16 GB HBM2 Video Card | Case:  Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 RGB | PSU:  EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply w/CableMod E-Series Cable Kit (Black/Red) | Case Fans:  2 Corsair SP140 49.49 CFM 140 mm Fans | Displays:  AOC U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor (Replacing with an LG 4k IPS display for game art)+AOC G2460PQU 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor | Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro RGB | Keyboard:  Ducky Shine 7 Blackout - MK Exclusive First Release - RGB LED Double Shot PBT Mechanical Keyboard with Silent Red Switches | Mousepad:  Gaya Entertainment Oversized Gaming Mousepad Doom | Audio:  Massdrop x AKG K7XX Audiophile Open-back Headphones+Audio-Technica ATR2500-USB Cardioid Condenser USB Microphone+Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset+iBasso IT01 Dynamic Driver Audiophile In-Ear Monitors/Earbuds (Black)+Pair of Mackie MR624s(came with stands+isolation pads) | OSes:  Windows 10 Pro+openSUSE Tumbleweed |



VashTheStampede(ROG Zephyrus M GU502):

| CPU:  i7-9750h | RAM:  32GB Dual Channel 2666mhz CL 19(Stock+Samsung 16GB DDR4 PC4-21300, 2666MHZ, 260 PIN SODIMM, 1.2V, CL 19 ) | Storage:  1TB SSD with Optane | GPU:  Nvidia RTX 2060 | Display:  144hz 3ms | Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro |

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28 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

DRP4 and D15 are usually over 80 lately.  Unless they went down.   Those aren't the only 2 at that tier btw.  They're just far more popular than most due to sponsorship/advertisements.  DRP4 = 89, D15 = 90ish.

then the fuma 2 and freezer 34 is probably the ones i'd recommend, i guess it makes no sense to spend 90usd on a 2600x cooler either 😖


9900k 1.39v 5.2 83C 185w 1.24v 4.9 60C 135w 1.05v 4.5 90w 50C (doing some testing for hot days) all-2avx cinebench/blender temps. avx voltages in prime. ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios fixed LLC voltage gaps ll gskill 2x8gb cl16 ddr4000 bdie 1.42v ll EVGA 2080 ti XC (duo fan skinny) 1995//7600 power limited 79C max, stock voltage (really bad ocer) ll 2x samsung 860 evo 500gb raid 0 ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll Corsair graphite 780T ll EVGA G2 1300w ll Windows 10 Pro ll NEC PA272w (movie, work mon) 2k60 14bit lut ll Predator X27 4k144 hdr (rgb98)

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1 hour ago, ferariforests said:

How much was it and what is your average FPS for the games you play

I would definitely go online and look at some reviewers benchmarks for the 5700xt to get an idea of in game performance. They will definitely be more reliable sources than me (I think both Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed have decent 5700xt benchmarks). But I have to say the 5700xt is able to run pretty much any game above 60fps at 1440p. I can easily run Red Dead Redemption 2 and medium-high settings and average 62fps. I also play Dirt 2.0 at almost max settings and get about 120fps.

 

As far as whether or not the card is reliable; I know some people complained about the 5700xt having driver related issues at launch, and when i first got it I had a few glitches. But sicne the 2020 driver updates came out, the Radeon Adrenaline software is fantastic and I have had no issues.

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if you go 5700 you wont regret it with exception of programs that force x264 encoding (in obs use x265 for now), likewise, the 2020 drivers have some nice potential features but use 19.12.1, its actually perfectly stable so go with that till the newer ones get a rock solid release.

I'd go gigabyte or sapphire followed by powercolor (unless you need a 2 slot, in which case powercolor is your savior), overclocking is possible but don't worry about it too much, 50+ power does more then clock speed squeezing will get you, over 2000-2050 target clocks you won't see much unless you are on water, at which point you'll be chucking too much money at it and in 2080 territory 

 

flashed 5700s are fun if you are on a budget, but you'll get a tiny bit more perf out of just going xt if you can find decent 400-420$ AIB, so don't worry about it unless you find a nice 5700 for like 290-330$

 

avoid ASRock and ASUS like the plague, msi is iffy (new is fine if not great, old is horrible, impossible to tell if you get new or old revision till you have it in hand), XFX is meh but okay


also hot take but people who run games on ultra are candidates for a lobotomy, no real world visual difference but often with 1/2 to 2/3 the performance, its only relevant in testing because reviews want to be scientific and consistent, test for worst cases, looks same as medium-high for anything but taking still screenshots at 4k, just ruins frames.  be a gamer not a idiot 

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