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Overclocking RAM on R9 3900X problems

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Specs:

Motherboard - MSI MEG X570 ACE (BIOS 7C35v16)

CPU - R9 3900X (replacing with R9 3950X)

Memory - G.Skill F4-3200C14D-32GTZSK https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232378?Item=N82E16820232378 x 2

SSD - Corsair MP600 1TB

Video Card - Aorus Xtreme 1080 ti

 

So my issue is tried the ryzen calculator and set manual timings for 3600 speed and run a few mem test and works fine even after hours of gaming sessions. Shut down the computer and turn it back on and I get the overclock fail error. Tried with the memory try it in the motherboard and on all the 3600 speeds starting from 16-16-16 all the way to 18-18-18 and fails. I manually have set DRAM voltage from 1.35 to 1.4v and every time I decide to shut down my computer I would always have to go to BIOS and put it back to XMP then go back into BIOS after windows boots to do a RAM tweak. So at this point I'm at my wits end on how to make the memory OC stick after shutdown. The memory is on the QVL for the motherboard and yes I could keep it at 3200 C14 but would like to run it at 3600 to get that on par with the infinity fabric clock for optimal speed boost of the CPU. Any ideas?

 

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Latest bios update installed?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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9 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Latest bios update installed?

Second to latest as the latest one just had these updates:

 

Description
- Improved system boot up time.
- Improved PCI-E device compatibility.
 
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Maybe the motherboard isn't that great for overclocking memory? Seems like I read better OC on ASUS boards and thinking of getting the Tier S one your list @Jurrunio

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22 minutes ago, nyichiban said:

Second to latest as the latest one just had these updates:

 

Description
- Improved system boot up time.
- Improved PCI-E device compatibility.
 

try the last one regardless, shouldnt make things worse than it is now

 

17 minutes ago, nyichiban said:

Maybe the motherboard isn't that great for overclocking memory? Seems like I read better OC on ASUS boards and thinking of getting the Tier S one your list @Jurrunio

I dont see why that would be the case, I've seen it do very well.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

try the last one regardless, shouldnt make things worse than it is now

 

I dont see why that would be the case, I've seen it do very well.

From the other forums like overclockers most of the users there seems to have better luck overclocking on ASUS boards than on MSI and then there are handfuls of videos on Youtube with people using ASUS boards for better overclocks. I could be just wanting to get a new ASUS board so I notice ASUS more than MSI. But yea that's what I'm seeing. Anyways I think one suggestion on another forum I saw was that I should stick to v1.5 as that seems to be better for voltage adjustment for CPU as well. I forget where I saw it but there was a bunch of tests done on voltage adjustments for different boards and all of them even though you have it at 1.4V in BIOS all were not 1.4 when in windows but the ASUS one had the least difference from what was set in BIOS. Not sure if it was a reddit post or some other forum. Searching and digesting all the information I could in the past 2 months had made that info jumbled in my head.

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4 minutes ago, nyichiban said:

all of them even though you have it at 1.4V in BIOS all were not 1.4 when in windows but the ASUS one had the least difference from what was set in BIOS

did they bother to test with different loadline calibration settings?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

did they bother to test with different loadline calibration settings?

From what I remember reading they did do that but it was towards the original release so BIOS might not have been great at the time.

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Got it working now at 3600 stable by putting the voltage at 1.4V. Not what I really wanted but it works and I don't get the error that overclocking has failed and redo the setting in BIOS. Did it before the BIOS update and was fine and just for Sh*ts and giggles I did it after the BIOS update and no change either. 

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