My new laptop just got DUNKED

[AlexTheGreatish]

We're in San Francisco to get a first look at the all new Dell XPS 13 - and does it ever look good.

 

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[nick name]

I believe the phrase is "dunked on".  

[RandomStyuf]

From the video it makes it seem like there's a new Ice Lake, 10nm, 6 core CPU in this laptop, whereas on other articles, it seems to be either a 6 core Comet Lake 14nm part, or up to the 4 core existing Ice Lake 10nm CPU, with both being available. 

 

Can you clarify if the 6 core and ice lake are one option or two?

 

 

[Kilrah]

Interesting to post that after the review 

[bellasnow4]

So is this going to be the Dell Xps 13 2020

[aisle9]

Nothing like a review of a product with a rep for that product standing right off camera...

 

I kid, I kid. Mostly. I won't shit on the XPS 13 because build quality and Killer Wifi are its only real issues, as opposed to the swollen batteries, failing displays, poor build quality and Killer Wifi that plague the 15. Besides, I don't know about you, but when I spend $1,200 on a laptop I want the Wifi to randomly drop and/or crash the system, and I want to be able to see everywhere that the chassis was misaligned.

 

Ok, I won't shit on it as much.

 

Also, Alex, your hair...I don't know how to say this but...have you seen There's Something About Mary? Circumstances of Cameron Diaz's hair ending up that way aside, that's what it looked like. I laughed.

[Kilrah]

Complain about build quality, really? Have you had one in your hands?

[aisle9]

6 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Complain about build quality, really? Have you had one in your hands?

Three, actually. Two XPS 13s from 2017, and an XPS 15 from 2018. One of the 13s is fine aside from the Killer Wifi constantly crashing the system, but my ex-wife doesn't seem to care so neither do I. The other 13 didn't have any issues during the year I used it. The 15 arrived with a misaligned chassis and dead pixels. Because I had enough sense to purchase it from Amazon, I was able to just return it instead of dealing with Dell's world-class customer support.

[Kilrah]

But your sentence came as referring to the presented 2019 model...

[aisle9]

7 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

But your sentence came as referring to the presented 2019 model...

I'm looking at product history. The product history, if you look at r/dell for issues, you'll see some repetition among recent XPS models and the problems they shipped with. Maybe Dell has actually bothered to fix them all, maybe not. History suggests that there will be a plethora of issues with the new XPS 15s given the lack of any meaningful redesign, and as long as the XPS line clings to Killer Wifi, those issues will likely persist in the new 15s and the new 13s, and God only knows if Dell has started to give two craps about quality control on the XPS line or not.

[Kilrah]

Don't know, but my 2019 2 in 1 has the most solid build I've seen in a Windows laptop in a long while and I don't have any wifi problems.

[Kroon]

From the video:

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Look at this 16 by 10 display, is't that beautiful? It leaves almost no bezel what so ever, top or bottom. I absolutely love the trend that laptops going back to taller aspect ratio displays, it gives you just that little additional information...

 

Well try to watch an Linus Tech Tips video, then you actually get less information on the taller screen.  This is not the first time LTT are talking about how great taller accept ratios is but their own videos are till 2:1 (So not good?).

[Kilrah]

Unfortunately people mostly watch videos on phones nowadays and most phones have super stretched displays, so content is made for them rather than computer users... Point stands for productivity regardless.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

10 minutes ago, Kroon said:

From the video:

 

Well try to watch an Linus Tech Tips video, then you actually get less information on the taller screen.  This is not the first time LTT are talking about how great taller accept ratios is but their own videos are till 2:1 (So not good?).

Most people watch videos on their phones and many flagship phones are 2:1 aspect ratio these days. That said I do agree they should go back to 16:9

[chrischambers]

1 hour ago, Kroon said:

From the video:

 

Well try to watch an Linus Tech Tips video, then you actually get less information on the taller screen.  This is not the first time LTT are talking about how great taller accept ratios is but their own videos are till 2:1 (So not good?).

16:9 is still a standard for YouTube. Unless you're Brandon and really want to go crazy at 1.85:1. 16:9 is just fine for most folks. Especially if you're casting on TVs, phones and yes most computers. 

[kirashi]

7 hours ago, aisle9 said:

I won't shit on the XPS 13 because build quality and Killer Wifi are its only real issues, as opposed to the swollen batteries, failing displays, poor build quality and Killer Wifi that plague the 15

You might want to specify what/which XPS 15, because my 9560 from the second production run in 2017 has none of those problems. Build quality is as perfect as I'd expect for $2,000 CAD, WiFi has never given me trouble (probably because I gutted the Killer Networks software from my system, keeping only the drivers), battery isn't swelling (yet, knock on wood going into its' 3rd year), and my display is still as bright as ever.

 

To be clear, I'm not saying there haven't been issues - I do subscribe to /r/Dell and see posts from those who get the short end of the stick. But there aren't really that many issues compared to the number of XPS 15's in the wild without issue.

[ucmRich]

Tell Michael Dell, after many years.... ... I'm In! Arctic White FTW for me, Iris PLUS is mega awesome!!! and the 16:10 is a god send, thanks Dell!! Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Developer edition please

 

I really hope the Arctic White Developer Edition comes with 32GB ram and at least 256GB NVME drive or SSD    0:-)

[bigmug]

The aspect ratio doesn't make any real difference, unless taken to extremes. I wouldn't want a 8:1 screen, nor a 1:1. But 16:9 vs 16:10 is close to indistinguishable, and makes absolutely no difference in any way.

 

[Kroon]

1 hour ago, bigmug said:

The aspect ratio doesn't make any real difference, unless taken to extremes. I wouldn't want a 8:1 screen, nor a 1:1. But 16:9 vs 16:10 is close to indistinguishable, and makes absolutely no difference in any way.

 

Loosing 12% of your screen on a 13" screen is quite a lot.   This from a device that are included in the 72% YouTube calls mobile devices.

[Kroon]

14 hours ago, Kilrah said:

Unfortunately people mostly watch videos on phones nowadays and most phones have super stretched displays, so content is made for them rather than computer users... Point stands for productivity regardless.

 

From pure curiosity I was wondering if you have any source about the most uses are watching on phones?

 

Thing is that last time I checked YouTube claimed that 72% was from "Mobile Devices" but when EU court asked about this they got a long list of what is defined as "Mobile Device". More or less everything with an ARM SOC and all laptops was included in the Mobile Device list. On direct question on phone uses they had no exact answer but less then 20%.

 

Funny thing is that my bedroom TV are a mobile device according to YouTube's definition.

[Kilrah]

LTT mentioned that was the reason when they made the change, most likely from their Youtube viewing stats.

[Sang]

Okay, better hinge desing. I like it.  but Does Alex still alive?

[aisle9]

6 hours ago, bigmug said:

The aspect ratio doesn't make any real difference, unless taken to extremes. I wouldn't want a 8:1 screen, nor a 1:1. But 16:9 vs 16:10 is close to indistinguishable, and makes absolutely no difference in any way.

 

On 15" and 17" screens, I agree, 16:9 and 16:10 are basically indistinguishable. On smaller 12"-14" screens, that little shred of extra work space in 16:10 is a welcome sight.

 

I'm still mourning the loss of 4:3 screens for productivity and office work, tbqh.

[Skeeter]

So, do we know if the evil looks about the XPS 15 are because of a likely redesign? I am about to get a new work laptop, and went into the office today and asked our IT guy to hold off ordering one yet.

 

I have an XPS 15 9550 and love it. A new XPS 15 with the design tweaks of the latest 13 would be magic!