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i7 3770 to Ryzen 7 2700 upgrade?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hello. I just wanted to know if it is worth the upgrade from an i7 3770 to a Ryzen 7 2700 (I already have it, I'll have to pay for 16GB DDR4 RAM+Motherboard). 

Is it worth it to buy RAM+Motherboard just to use the Ryzen 7 2700?

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Edit: just noticed you already have it.

 

Get a B450 Tomohawk and 16gb of ddr4 3200 and yeah i think its worth it.

 

 


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In general I would say yes, absolutely. You will pay around $200 for a massive upgrade.

 

All depends on what you plan on using you PC for.


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It's a considerable upgrade, you have the CPU already so you may as well go all the way. 😉

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Posted · Original PosterOP
7 minutes ago, Skipple said:

In general I would say yes, absolutely. You will pay around $200 for a massive upgrade.

 

All depends on what you plan on using you PC for.

Is it really that massive? My i7 isn't that bad. 

Is there a way to see a fair comparison between them in gaming?

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5 minutes ago, Ilegator said:

Is it really that massive? My i7 isn't that bad. 

Is there a way to see a fair comparison between them in gaming?

It won't really make much of a difference for gaming but you will see a pretty significant boost in multi-threaded work loads. 

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20 minutes ago, Ilegator said:

Is it really that massive? My i7 isn't that bad. 

Is there a way to see a fair comparison between them in gaming?

it has the potential to be passive provided

 

1. u get fast ram+slightly oc the 2700, 

2. the apps use more than 4 cores  (most of the newer and upcoming AAA titles)

 

i estimate with ddr3200 ram and a 4.1ghz oc it'll be about 40% upgrade on single core apps, add more for apps that use more than 4 cores.

the 2700 also works well with ur existing gpu/psu etc. i'd say it's worth the 200-250 u pay for the upgrade just for QoL purposes if you use ur pc often.


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Many videos exist already.

Type i7 3770 vs Ryzen 2700 and scroll thru results of Gaming comparisons.

 

Bit more in depth..

2600k and 3770k are barely different day to day, and here is GNJesus explaining it all.

 


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You will want to OC the 2700 for sure though because stock settings it suuuuucks.

 

Looked 3.4ghz most of the time. You should be able to get 4.0+ghz pretty easily and that will make it pretty much the same as a 2700x


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TV Gamer: Ryzen 5 1600 4.0ghz All-core @1.425v // Wraith PRISM // Gigabyte B450 Aorus M // 16GB GeIL DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon RX 580 8GB XXX Edition // Thermaltake Versa H17 // Corsair Vengeance Silver 650W // 120GB Sandisk SSD/120GB PNY CS900/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
7 hours ago, FredyBobJoe said:

Is all you are doing gaming? Will you be doing anything else more cpu thread intensive?

Is not all I'll be doing but it's all I care about when building a PC xD

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7 hours ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Bit more in depth..

2600k and 3770k are barely different day to day, and here is GNJesus explaining it all.

 

There is some obvious, huge difference in certain games there


If we are taking a OC'd 2600k (4.7ghz OC at that) as a stand in for the 3770, the minimums were like twice as bad as with the 2600/2700 in many of the titles, indicating bad stuttering/hitching, average fps was often 20% or so lower.  Also, since that video came out more modern games, especially ones using DX12, have become even more demanding so far as being core/thread hungry, 6 cores often being a safe minimum for smooth gameplay. 


3770 isn't a horrible CPU if you are super strapped for cash, i have a personal spot in my heart for 200-300$ OEM Dells, HP, Acers etc being turned into gaming rigs with simply GPU+PSU upgrade, but if its possible to upgrade they are infact pretty bad compared to a 2700, especially looking into more recent, and likely most if not all future titles. 
 

48 minutes ago, Ilegator said:

Is not all I'll be doing but it's all I care about when building a PC xD

Cool thing will be if you setup a decent 2700 system now, you can upgrade to Ryzen 4000 when it comes out next year if you want to, so it wouldn't be a terrible investment eitherway, next years future processors will be supported by said AM4 socket motherboards, (a320,b350,x370,b450,x470,x570) , so if you already have decent ram+mobo (90-120$ b450s recommended) then you have a easy upgrade path in the future.

There is a list of how motherboards rank in this forum, likewise this list specific to AM4 that personally i find is easier to search(ctrl+f) through, feel free to reference it if you go shopping around.  Anything with "100A" rating is likely a good buy. 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

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Posted · Original PosterOP
56 minutes ago, Otto_iii said:

There is some obvious, huge difference in certain games there


If we are taking a OC'd 2600k (4.7ghz OC at that) as a stand in for the 3770, the minimums were like twice as bad as with the 2600/2700 in many of the titles, indicating bad stuttering/hitching, average fps was often 20% or so lower.  Also, since that video came out more modern games, especially ones using DX12, have become even more demanding so far as being core/thread hungry, 6 cores often being a safe minimum for smooth gameplay. 


3770 isn't a horrible CPU if you are super strapped for cash, i have a personal spot in my heart for 200-300$ OEM Dells, HP, Acers etc being turned into gaming rigs with simply GPU+PSU upgrade, but if its possible to upgrade they are infact pretty bad compared to a 2700, especially looking into more recent, and likely most if not all future titles. 
 

Cool thing will be if you setup a decent 2700 system now, you can upgrade to Ryzen 4000 when it comes out next year if you want to, so it wouldn't be a terrible investment eitherway, next years future processors will be supported by said AM4 socket motherboards, (a320,b350,x370,b450,x470,x570) , so if you already have decent ram+mobo (90-120$ b450s recommended) then you have a easy upgrade path in the future.

There is a list of how motherboards rank in this forum, likewise this list specific to AM4 that personally i find is easier to search(ctrl+f) through, feel free to reference it if you go shopping around.  Anything with "100A" rating is likely a good buy. 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

Thank you for your answer, you clarified my thoughts a lot.

I might should've said it before, but the Ryzen has two broken pins.

I've already tried to use it but it won't POST.

I wanted to try to fix it but since I don't want to risk a new expensive motherboard when testing it, I was thinking about buying a secondhanded 30€ Gigabyte GA-A320M S2H V2. Is that a bad idea? I'd borrow a friend's DDR4 RAM and I'd use my power supply to test it. 

My idea is to use two pins from and old AMD CPU I already have and try them to make contact with the socket. Linus has a video where he manages to do it!

 

If it POSTs, I'd buy RAM and I would use that cheap motherboard until I find it necessary to upgrade.

 

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11 hours ago, Ilegator said:

I might should've said it before, but the Ryzen has two broken pins.

I've already tried to use it but it won't POST.

I wanted to try to fix it but since I don't want to risk a new expensive motherboard when testing it, I was thinking about buying a secondhanded 30€ Gigabyte GA-A320M S2H V2. Is that a bad idea? I'd borrow a friend's DDR4 RAM and I'd use my power supply to test it. 

You could try booting with a super cheap a320, but i wouldnt run it on that board, now im less sure.

The pins are completely broken off? not bent but completely sheared off, correct?  If they are just bent that can be fixed fairly reliably on most Ryzen CPUs, with care and the right tools (really tiny flat head screw driver.)  TechYesCity recently did a video on that, but i'm assuming it won't apply as you genuinely meant 'broken off'

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, Otto_iii said:

You could try booting with a super cheap a320, but i wouldnt run it on that board, now im less sure.

The pins are completely broken off? not bent but completely sheared off, correct?  If they are just bent that can be fixed fairly reliably on most Ryzen CPUs, with care and the right tools (really tiny flat head screw driver.)  TechYesCity recently did a video on that, but i'm assuming it won't apply as you genuinely meant 'broken off'

What's the worst thing that could happen to the CPU or other components if I used that motherboard? 

Yes, they are completely broken off.  

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42 minutes ago, Ilegator said:

What's the worst thing that could happen to the CPU or other components if I used that motherboard? 

Yes, they are completely broken off.  

The power delivery,VRMs, is very insufficient.  Like worst thing?  After running PC at load for awhile one of the VRMs goes "poof", literally blow up. This shouldn't kill other components but will kill the board.  It really isn't recommended for use with a 8-core

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This changes everything

 

You said it wouldn't post? On what board? Do you know that board works?


My System: i7-8700k 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.365v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT RAW II // NZXT S340 White // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/1TB Samsung 860 EVO/1TB 2.5" HGST HDD // Displays: ASUS VG248QE/Acer K242HYL/Acer K242HYL // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard - Logitech G502 // Corsair H70 Gaming Headset

 

Wife's System: i7-8700 // Arctic Freezer 33 // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 // Sapphire Vega 64 // Thermaltake Versa H17 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB Samsung 860 EVO/500GB Silicon Power A55/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: ASUS VG245H/ASUS VP248Q // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602 // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

TV Gamer: Ryzen 5 1600 4.0ghz All-core @1.425v // Wraith PRISM // Gigabyte B450 Aorus M // 16GB GeIL DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon RX 580 8GB XXX Edition // Thermaltake Versa H17 // Corsair Vengeance Silver 650W // 120GB Sandisk SSD/120GB PNY CS900/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

Son's System: i5-9400 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDr4 3200 // ASUS RX 570 4GB OC // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/500GB Wester Digital Blue // Display: Dell P2417H - Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350k // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 16GB T-Force Vulkan 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD // Display: Scepter 20" 1080p - Logitech Keyboard and Mouse

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
10 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

This changes everything

You said it wouldn't post? On what board? Do you know that board works?

The board worked fine. The problem was the CPU.

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4 hours ago, Ilegator said:

The board worked fine. The problem was the CPU.

Ok, so if you know the board worked, I wouldn't waste more money on more boards to test this broken cpu on.

 

That was what I was getting at


My System: i7-8700k 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.365v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT RAW II // NZXT S340 White // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/1TB Samsung 860 EVO/1TB 2.5" HGST HDD // Displays: ASUS VG248QE/Acer K242HYL/Acer K242HYL // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard - Logitech G502 // Corsair H70 Gaming Headset

 

Wife's System: i7-8700 // Arctic Freezer 33 // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 // Sapphire Vega 64 // Thermaltake Versa H17 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB Samsung 860 EVO/500GB Silicon Power A55/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: ASUS VG245H/ASUS VP248Q // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602 // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

TV Gamer: Ryzen 5 1600 4.0ghz All-core @1.425v // Wraith PRISM // Gigabyte B450 Aorus M // 16GB GeIL DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon RX 580 8GB XXX Edition // Thermaltake Versa H17 // Corsair Vengeance Silver 650W // 120GB Sandisk SSD/120GB PNY CS900/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

Son's System: i5-9400 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDr4 3200 // ASUS RX 570 4GB OC // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/500GB Wester Digital Blue // Display: Dell P2417H - Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350k // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 16GB T-Force Vulkan 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD // Display: Scepter 20" 1080p - Logitech Keyboard and Mouse

 

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