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Motherboard Tier List v2 (currently AMD only)

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Posted · Original PosterOP
6 hours ago, DrDre said:

Thanks I was about to order the prime p but managed to get a gigabyte gaming x for under £100! So went with that. 

X570 gaming x? That's eeally cheap

 

1 hour ago, Cozzolino92 said:

Hey there, I'm building a single GPU PC based on R5 2600, and I'm not going to overclock. I'm asking here for an ambiguity that I might be seeing because of my lack of knowledge so here it is: can I pick the Micro ATX version of any mobo (unless form factor is specified ofc)? Is there a huge discrepancy in VRM quality between the same model over different form factors (unless explicitly stated)? Can I, let's say, pick the Micro version of the Asrock B450 Pro4 without second thoughts? Is there any due consideration about GPUs in picking a Micro ATX over a Standard ATX (keeping in mind I would definitely go with a mid tier model <200€)?

 

Thanks for your guide

Among cheap boards there's usually no difference, higher end ones (e.g. B450 Tomahawk vs B450M Mortar) you may see some ports missing on the mATX board.


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

X570 gaming x? That's eeally cheap

Yeah I know, that's why I switched it up! It is a ex-display item from a local store but they keep their display items in glass displays so not been messed with. Plus full warranty with it still too. Coming tomorrow as they are not allowed to do collections!

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2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

 

Among cheap boards there's usually no difference, higher end ones (e.g. B450 Tomahawk vs B450M Mortar) you may see some ports missing on the mATX board.

Thanks for your answer! One more question if you allow me: I want a very barebone Mobo so i'm looking at B450m S2H, the price is right and the features are all fine except the (OC) beside ram 3200mhz support. I dread that sign and I'm not sure I can make it work at all at the stock speed (OC illiterate here). Besides I could only find the single 8gb in the supported ram sheet, yet pcpartpicker lists the B450m S2H as compatible. These are the rams, for reference: (2x8gb) Cmk16gx4m2b3200c16. Is this fine? Sorry for botherinf you, these are nuances I'm simply not used to and I can't find a straight answer. 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
7 minutes ago, Cozzolino92 said:

Thanks for your answer! One more question if you allow me: I want a very barebone Mobo so i'm looking at B450m S2H, the price is right and the features are all fine except the (OC) beside ram 3200mhz support. I dread that sign and I'm not sure I can make it work at all at the stock speed (OC illiterate here). Besides I could only find the single 8gb in the supported ram sheet, yet pcpartpicker lists the B450m S2H as compatible. These are the rams, for reference: Cmk16gx4m2b3200c16. Is this fine 

OC means that's considered an overclock and it's not guaranteed to work, it depends on the CPU and memory kit.

 

Gigabyte's cheap boards arent known for good memory speeds, so you could end up with 2933 at worst


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Many thanks, I will dig up a little more info and consider the extra buck for my Mobo. Thanks for this awesome guide! 

 

EDIT: So I settled for a B450 Mortar which I understand is a tad overkill for R5 2600, which also means I'm going to overclock afterall.

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Just wondering, B550 releases mid-june so when can we expect the chart to be updated? I like to make motherboard purchasing decisions based on this and some extra research so thanks for all the work put into it so far!

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Posted · Original PosterOP
22 minutes ago, UBatcha said:

Just wondering, B550 releases mid-june so when can we expect the chart to be updated? I like to make motherboard purchasing decisions based on this and some extra research so thanks for all the work put into it so far!

about that time, I need to wait for reviews and those wont come until NDAs expire.

 

23 minutes ago, revhellyon said:

I was thinking about MSI MEG X570 UNIFY for my 3900x, I don't plan to overclock it. Is there any other suggestion for a mobo with wifi and usb c front header? 

There is the MSI X570 Tomahawk coming (date unknown) but it only has Realtek LAN (Wifi card is Intel)

On Gigabyte the X570 Aorus Elite WiFi and Pro Wifi (the ATX one) there is also front panel Type C, but the Wifi itself is only WiFi 5 at most, no WiFi 6 support


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro ATX has been performing far better in VRM temperatures in BIOS F50 which is also thankfully a stable version for Ryzen 3000.  I have 2 boards and they both improved.  Techspot had similar results in their "Ryzen 9 3950X on Good and Bad B450 Motherboards" article.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, GenLoggy said:

Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro ATX has been performing far better in VRM temperatures in BIOS F50 which is also thankfully a stable version for Ryzen 3000.  I have 2 boards and they both improved.  Techspot had similar results in their "Ryzen 9 3950X on Good and Bad B450 Motherboards" article.

That article is from Nov 2019, if it has improved then it would have been taken into consideration already


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Hey guys, I'm about to finally make an upgrade from my Dozer to Ryzen. Went for Ryzen5 3600 (without X), 32GB of Kinsgston HyperF 3200MHz and RX5700. Now here's the part where i hit the dilemma. What mobo to chose. Budget already went through the roof so best bang for buck has to do it, but i don't wanna sacrifice too much performance by crippling the system with a weak or old mobo. So i thought AsRocks B450 Steel Legend (the full ATX one) could do it. What do you think? Is there a better mobo for that config at that or even lower price? If there is any OC at all it won't be byond the factory settings. Will be used 90% of the time for gaming at 1080p and the other 10% occasionally streaming UHD movies (something i'm currently somehow having trouble with my current config) and normal internet stuff. Not planning on doing streaming so far. Some of you may ask why so much ram, well i'd run 6 VMs and each needs 4 Gigs, so that's why. Will order the things in the 1st 3 days of june when the quarantine here will be finally over, so considering the load, is it justified to wait and go for some low-mid range B550? And last which config with the RAM is better for performance 4x8GB or 2x16GB? Thx in advance.

 

P.S

Sorry if i placed this in the wrong thread. Wasn't sure if to post here or make a whole new thread just to ask this,

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Posted · Original PosterOP
34 minutes ago, QuantumSingularity said:

If there is any OC at all it won't be byond the factory settings.

The definition of overclocking is to exceed factory settings, so not sure what you're talking about

 

Steel Legend has enough hardware capability for R5 3600 but its BIOS isnt the most functional.

 

Consider B550 if they are available at that time

 

2x16gb gives you better chances that XMP profile works, 4x8GB is slightly faster (only measutable woth benchmarks) if they both work but you cant upgrade easily.


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Hello everyone.  I am about to build my son (with him of course) a gaming PC. I have been out of the "staying current with everything" game for a long time, built 100s of PCs though so no issue there.

 

Just would like a little guidance on what motherboard and ram to get please.  Naturally I would imagine he will want blinged out RGB stuff but that is not 100% required just preferred.

 

CPU - Ryzen 3700x air cooled 

GPU - 2070S

500gb NVME drive - additional mechanical HDD installed as needed

1440P UW monitor

 

He may or may not get into o/c in the future right now want rock solid build for him to game with is friends who all left him behind on Xbox and went PC.

TIA for your advice.

 

 

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