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Basic non-gaming PC for parents

Fireball927

Hello yall!

 

I am starting to piece together a PC for my parents to use for fairly basic tasks. For the most part, it will be used for web browsing, email, and office tasks. Really, the only noteworthy 'power' task is some pretty heavy spread-sheeting with lots of macros and data processing (my Dad is a systems engineer). I would like to use a Ryzen 5 3600 for the build since it has plenty of multi-threaded performance at it's price-point. Here is the build I have started:

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $189.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $74.98 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $64.99 @ Best Buy
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For $59.99
Case Thermaltake Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $44.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply EVGA BR 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $45.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $490.92
  Mail-in rebates -$10.00
  Total $480.92
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-13 21:40 EST-0500  

Due to my lack of knowledge with low end GPU's, I am struggling to pick one to keep this build under $500 without windows. Note I already have a Samsung 500gb SSD. 

I am looking for either GPU recommendations, or tweaks to the build that would suit this set of tasks well. I have toyed with the idea of using a R5 3400G, but am wondering if loosing two cores will make a large impact on performance. It would make the build a lot cheaper though.

 

Thanks for your thoughts!

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24 minutes ago, Fireball927 said:

For the most part, it will be used for web browsing, email, and office tasks

Athlon 3000G will do it all for $50. Your selection of the 3600 is insanely overkill

 

Consider this build instead, still basic but much more cost effective. Built in wifi as well which is nice for an office PC.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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7 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Athlon 3000G will do it all for $50

You underestimate the caliber of spreadsheets my Dad has made. Turns out the more math you use, the better CPU you need :P 

In all seriousness, I just wanted 4-6 cores to keep this thing relevant for 4-5 years.

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2 minutes ago, Fireball927 said:

You underestimate the caliber of spreadsheets my Dad has made. Turns out the more math you use, the better CPU you need :P 

In all seriousness, I just wanted 4-6 cores to keep this thing relevant for 4-5 years.

For large spreadsheets, max I'd do is the 2400G, and even that's a bit much.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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2 minutes ago, Fireball927 said:

You underestimate the caliber of spreadsheets my Dad has made. Turns out the more math you use, the better CPU you need :P 

In all seriousness, I just wanted 4-6 cores to keep this thing relevant for 4-5 years.

just go with 3200G

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3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

For large spreadsheets, max I'd do is the 2400G, and even that's a bit much.

True.  3200g is cheaper than 2400g right now though.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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12 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

True.  3200g is cheaper than 2400g right now though.

yes but only 4c/4t instead of 4c/8t and the single threaded performance is negligible

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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25 minutes ago, Fireball927 said:

You underestimate the caliber of spreadsheets my Dad has made. Turns out the more math you use, the better CPU you need :P 

In all seriousness, I just wanted 4-6 cores to keep this thing relevant for 4-5 years.

Agree with you, I use a Xeon E-2276M.

 

23 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

For large spreadsheets, max I'd do is the 2400G, and even that's a bit much.

Negative - I deal in this.  Large calculations in excel require many threads.

 

EDIT - especially if you link multiple files, tables, pivots and macro it all in series - if your CPU hangs up you get into read only issues etc.

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6 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

yes but only 4c/4t instead of 4c/8t and the single threaded performance is negligible

Right you are.  Missed that bit.  I was seeing 4/4. 

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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4 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Agree with you, I use a Xeon E-2276M.

 

Negative - I deal in this.  Large calculations in excel require many threads.

 

EDIT - especially if you link multiple files, tables, pivots and macro it all in series - if your CPU hangs up you get into read only issues etc.

More than 8?  If so 3400g won’t help either.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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11 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Negative - I deal in this.  Large calculations in excel require many threads.

 

EDIT - especially if you link multiple files, tables, pivots and macro it all in series - if your CPU hangs up you get into read only issues etc

I'd think then that a 1700 might be a better call

 

the 3600 is just so good for gaming, while a workhorse PC might fare better from other selections

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

I'd think then that a 1700 might be a better call

 

the 3600 is just so good for gaming, while a workhorse PC might fare better from other selections

1700s seem to be getting expensive for new ones.  2700? It’s still cheaper than a 3600 unlike new 1700s

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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