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Hi so in the next coming mouths i should have some cash to upgrade my gpu but before i do i want to ask whats the best rtx card that I should pick up? This card will be for 1080p gaming and video converting. So what the best rtx just now?

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Just now, syfer said:

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Given the lack of confines in the question, by default the best RTX card is the RTX2080Ti.

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1 minute ago, For Science! said:

by default the best RTX card is the RTX2080Ti.

RTX TITAN actually.

 

@syfer Wanna be more specific to what do you consider best? you're likely looking at the RTX 2060 Super or RTX 2070 Super but which depends on what you want and can afford.


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3 minutes ago, syfer said:

This card will be for 1080p gaming and video converting. So what the best rtx just now?

The best RTX card for 1080p would be the cheapest one, the RTX 2060 is a bit much even


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5 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

The best RTX card for 1080p would be the cheapest one, the RTX 2060 is a bit much even

a bit much? i would disagree...

 

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7 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

The best RTX card for 1080p would be the cheapest one, the RTX 2060 is a bit much even

Not if your talking high refresh 1080p.  Even a 2080 Ti won't get you 144 fps on games like RDR2 and Metro: Exodus.

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1 minute ago, Midnitewolf said:

Not if your talking high refresh 1080p.  Even a 2080 Ti won't get you 144 fps on games like RDR2 and Metro: Exodus.

 

4 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

a bit much? i would disagree..

Well since OP only said 1080 and not a refresh rate, it's likely that they mean 60 fps. Unless otherwise specified, the 2060 seems like a good call


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47 minutes ago, syfer said:

Hi so in the next coming mouths i should have some cash to upgrade my gpu but before i do i want to ask whats the best rtx card that I should pick up? This card will be for 1080p gaming and video converting. So what the best rtx just now?

Well currently I would say that the RX 5700 XT is the high value king. It's not RTX since it's AMD.

For $400 it competes with the $100+ more RTX 2070 Super, which is to say that at 1080p it performs extremely well.

 

If you NEED RayTracing, the 2070 Super is probably where I would land for 1080p (and even 1440p in a lot of cases) Ultra gaming. 

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Ok so many comments so many ok let me narrow it down here is my system parts just now

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Processor (6C/12T, 35MB Cache, 4.2 GHz Max Boost)
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Corsair RM Series RM 550 80+ Gold Power Supply CP-9020053-UK
corsair stormtrooper case

I only have RM 550 power supply so with this supply what would be best rtx and amd card. I wanted rtx as some of the video converters do have that but I do want to go back to nvidea. 

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12 minutes ago, syfer said:

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That doesn't help. What is your monitor? What refresh rate are you going for? If it's 60hz, then the 2060 non-Super (or Super if you can get it for around the same price) is your best bet. If it's 144hz, then you should get a 2070 Super (or a 5700 XT if you're fine with AMD)


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28 minutes ago, syfer said:

I have this hocked up to 1080p tv. I dont have monitor, I have hooked up to 40ich led tv,

That would be 60 Hz then, so the above suggestions for a 2060 are valid.


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If your not married to having to have an Nvidia card I would recommend a 5700xt.

 

The 5700 XT is just a better choice for the money considering that the 2060 Super is about the same cost at quite a bit less performance.  The only thing you would be missing is the ray tracing and considering how badly ray tracing eats into performance, I don't really feel you get much use out of it on a 2060/2070 level of GPU.  It is an almost 50% drop in fps to enable it and most of the games that use ray tracing are very demanding titles that are a bit of a struggle for the 2060 on high settings and above anyway.

 

 

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Even the base 5700, none XT, for 320-350$ beats the 2060, 2060 Super, matches the 2070
 

6 hours ago, syfer said:

Is that 2060 supper or none supper version. 


If you really want to go with Nvidea i'd say get the Super cards, the GDDR6 is nice to have, usually adds additional memory overclocking headroom which you may want in the future.  Since you are on 60hz 1080p display, if you are fine with turning down settings down 1 notch in the some of the most recent of games (Red Dead Redemption 2 etc) then you'll be fine with a 230$ 1660 Super if you just need a card now and want to save money.  Its a good habit to get into with any card, Ultra settings are legit not made to run well, legitimately are made by the game devs just to take screenshots with, High or medium-high usually looks identical at way better performance (25-50% depending on title). 

All the same the 2060 Super isn't a bad card, just not the best value, still good stuff though, its pricier then the AMD alternatives for sure but atleast has a great x264 encoder (AMD prefers x265) if you want to stream your gameplay.  

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On 12/13/2019 at 7:47 AM, syfer said:

Hi so in the next coming mouths i should have some cash to upgrade my gpu but before i do i want to ask whats the best rtx card that I should pick up? This card will be for 1080p gaming and video converting. So what the best rtx just now?

If we're talking 'best' as in 'most powerful' for 1080p gaming and video conversion as you stated, the best card is either going to be the Titan RTX or one of the 'extreme overclocking' versions of the Geforce RTX 2080 Ti (EVGA Kingpin, Galax HOF, etc - the triple 8-pin PCIE power versions which can be totally unlocked).

 

If you're not going to do some extreme cooling/modding, the Titan RTX is slightly ahead of the reference 2080 Ti in every aspect, but  the OC versions of 2080 Ti's, especially with better cooling will be able to clock higher than the Titan, which is more important for gaming. They're also going to be about half the price (Titan is ~ $2500 USD, you can find AIB partner 2080 Ti's for $1100+ )
 

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If your main use is games and you're not going to go nuts with cooling and hardware mods, just get a triple fan 2080 Ti with good reviews and warranty.


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5 hours ago, syfer said:

I show this video 

 

Basically anything between a 1660 Super to a 2060 Super will fit your needs.


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I have a non super rtx 2060, and works very well for me. get 70+ fps 1440p on destiny 2 and witcher 3, details on max. Works even better when I drop down to 1080p.

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On 12/13/2019 at 10:29 PM, Otto_iii said:

Even the base 5700, none XT, for 320-350$ beats the 2060, 2060 Super, matches the 2070
 


If you really want to go with Nvidea i'd say get the Super cards, the GDDR6 is nice to have, usually adds additional memory overclocking headroom which you may want in the future.  Since you are on 60hz 1080p display, if you are fine with turning down settings down 1 notch in the some of the most recent of games (Red Dead Redemption 2 etc) then you'll be fine with a 230$ 1660 Super if you just need a card now and want to save money.  Its a good habit to get into with any card, Ultra settings are legit not made to run well, legitimately are made by the game devs just to take screenshots with, High or medium-high usually looks identical at way better performance (25-50% depending on title). 

All the same the 2060 Super isn't a bad card, just not the best value, still good stuff though, its pricier then the AMD alternatives for sure but atleast has a great x264 encoder (AMD prefers x265) if you want to stream your gameplay.  

I agree on going for the Super Version if your going to get an Nvidia card.  They are just hands down the better value unless you find the non-super cards deeply discounted anyway.

 

As for High vs Ultra, honestly, you are correct.  Generally speaking I can barely tell the difference between the two aside from seeing much better FPS with the high setting.  I do find that going from High to Medium is a big decrease though  so would always recommend at a minimum you target high settings on the games you want to play.

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On 12/13/2019 at 9:00 AM, Midnitewolf said:

Not if your talking high refresh 1080p.  Even a 2080 Ti won't get you 144 fps on games like RDR2 and Metro: Exodus.

What are you smoking? I played Metro E with RTX at 4k and Raytracing and I got over 60 FPS for most parts of the game.

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11 hours ago, DobertRownySr said:

What are you smoking? I played Metro E with RTX at 4k and Raytracing and I got over 60 FPS for most parts of the game.

These articles speak for themselves:

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/1939-red-dead-redemption-2-benchmarks/

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/1795-metro-exodus-benchmarks/

 

A 2080 Ti, in RDR2 on HIGH settings (not even Ultra) can only manage 114 fps, well shy of the 144 fps you ideally want on a 144 Hz monitor.  In Metro Exodus the 2080 Ti performs a bit better and manages 131 fps on Ultra Settings but that still isn't 144 fps.  These results are without Raytracing by the way.  It wouldn't surprise me if there aren't as many or more people purchasing 1080p 144Hz monitors, looking for that buttery smooth gameplay you get with high fps and high refresh adaptive sync monitors than there are people purchasing 4k monitors for gaming.  The reality is, from what I have seen at least, high refresh gaming seems to take a similar amount of horsepower to 4k gaming, at least when your talking about the most demanding titles out there.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Midnitewolf said:

These articles speak for themselves:

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/1939-red-dead-redemption-2-benchmarks/

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/1795-metro-exodus-benchmarks/

 

A 2080 Ti, in RDR2 on HIGH settings (not even Ultra) can only manage 114 fps, well shy of the 144 fps you ideally want on a 144 Hz monitor.  In Metro Exodus the 2080 Ti performs a bit better and manages 131 fps on Ultra Settings but that still isn't 144 fps.  These results are without Raytracing by the way.  It wouldn't surprise me if there aren't as many or more people purchasing 1080p 144Hz monitors, looking for that buttery smooth gameplay you get with high fps and high refresh adaptive sync monitors than there are people purchasing 4k monitors for gaming.  The reality is, from what I have seen at least, high refresh gaming seems to take a similar amount of horsepower to 4k gaming, at least when your talking about the most demanding titles out there.

 

 

Yes, but with DLSS it runs a treat. 

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21 hours ago, DobertRownySr said:

Yes, but with DLSS it runs a treat. 

You mean a blurry treat.  From what I have seen on DLSS, it does increase the frame rate but at the expense of quite a bit of fidelity.  At the end of the day it really is all about what you are willing to give up though.  For example, many people have pointed out that the difference between High and Ultra settings is barely noticeable to the eye, but has a massive impact on performance in a game.  If your are willing to give up that barely noticeable difference or if your lucky enough to not actually notice the difference, then these cards have a lot more to give than the numbers sometimes suggest.  My point is mostly that even at 1080p, you have to give something up, somewhere to hit 144 fps in several games, even with a 2080 ti.  However as long as your willing to do something like enable DLSS that tends to make certain things in the background blurry or reduce other settings somewhere, then sure, even my current Vega 56 can churn out decent 1440p performance, you just got to be willing to give up something to get there is all. 

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On 12/13/2019 at 9:47 AM, syfer said:

Hi so in the next coming mouths i should have some cash to upgrade my gpu but before i do i want to ask whats the best rtx card that I should pick up? This card will be for 1080p gaming and video converting. So what the best rtx just now?

best for Ray Tracing then the only card IMO is the RTX 2080 Ti or Titan since there the only cards that can somewhat run ray traced games at 1440P.  

Best mid range RTX 2070 Super

 


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