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Can it keep a i9 well cooled?

14 minutes ago, Goliath_1911 said:

Hi all

If you are not interested in the backstory skip the following 3 lines 馃槢聽,

About 6 month ago i built my new rig, but when i got it i got a msi mag z390 tomahawk 聽coupled with a i5 8400, i got this cpu because i was in desperate need of an upgrade from my 3rd gen dual core i3, and couldnt wait longer to get the i9 9900k , ( it was out of stock in my country for a long聽time,and i already had the mobo , so couldnt switch to amd back then).

So after seeing that the 10th gen is on a new socket, i decided to get the 9900k in a couple of month聽inorder to future proof the pc , i dont plan to upgrade anything except the gpu for the next 10 years (if everything goes well).

So i have right now a MSI core Frozr L cooling my i5 8400 and it looks cool with my pc and underload the cpu barely goes past 53 degrees(on a hot summer day), i don`t understand much in TDP so if anyone can tell me if this cooler could handle the i 9900k聽

I don`t plan on overclocking it , i am getting it mainly for the 8聽cores ,higher clock speed and threads.

Also my board has those extra cpu power pins , i read somewhere that they are only needed for overclocking , so do i need to plug them or just leave them?

thnx for ur time!

MSI says it should be fine up to 200W, you should be good with that cooler.
As for extra CPU power pins, 1 8 Pin should be plenty for a stock speed or even moderately overclocked 9900k, they are only put the extra 8 pin on the board because they can and for extreme overclocking.

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Hi all

If you are not interested in the backstory skip the following 3 lines 馃槢聽,

About 6 month ago i built my new rig, but when i got it i got a msi mag z390 tomahawk 聽coupled with a i5 8400, i got this cpu because i was in desperate need of an upgrade from my 3rd gen dual core i3, and couldnt wait longer to get the i9 9900k , ( it was out of stock in my country for a long聽time,and i already had the mobo , so couldnt switch to amd back then).

So after seeing that the 10th gen is on a new socket, i decided to get the 9900k in a couple of month聽inorder to future proof the pc , i dont plan to upgrade anything except the gpu for the next 10 years (if everything goes well).

So i have right now a MSI core Frozr L cooling my i5 8400 and it looks cool with my pc and underload the cpu barely goes past 53 degrees(on a hot summer day), i don`t understand much in TDP so if anyone can tell me if this cooler could handle the i 9900k聽

I don`t plan on overclocking it , i am getting it mainly for the 8聽cores ,higher clock speed and threads.

Also my board has those extra cpu power pins , i read somewhere that they are only needed for overclocking , so do i need to plug them or just leave them?

thnx for ur time!

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14 minutes ago, Goliath_1911 said:

Hi all

If you are not interested in the backstory skip the following 3 lines 馃槢聽,

About 6 month ago i built my new rig, but when i got it i got a msi mag z390 tomahawk 聽coupled with a i5 8400, i got this cpu because i was in desperate need of an upgrade from my 3rd gen dual core i3, and couldnt wait longer to get the i9 9900k , ( it was out of stock in my country for a long聽time,and i already had the mobo , so couldnt switch to amd back then).

So after seeing that the 10th gen is on a new socket, i decided to get the 9900k in a couple of month聽inorder to future proof the pc , i dont plan to upgrade anything except the gpu for the next 10 years (if everything goes well).

So i have right now a MSI core Frozr L cooling my i5 8400 and it looks cool with my pc and underload the cpu barely goes past 53 degrees(on a hot summer day), i don`t understand much in TDP so if anyone can tell me if this cooler could handle the i 9900k聽

I don`t plan on overclocking it , i am getting it mainly for the 8聽cores ,higher clock speed and threads.

Also my board has those extra cpu power pins , i read somewhere that they are only needed for overclocking , so do i need to plug them or just leave them?

thnx for ur time!

MSI says it should be fine up to 200W, you should be good with that cooler.
As for extra CPU power pins, 1 8 Pin should be plenty for a stock speed or even moderately overclocked 9900k, they are only put the extra 8 pin on the board because they can and for extreme overclocking.


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24 minutes ago, Mnky313 said:

MSI says it should be fine up to 200W, you should be good with that cooler.

TDP ratings CPU & cooler manufacturers assign are complete senseless bullshit. No way this cooler are capable of cooling off 200W of heat, it's basically just CM Hyper 212 with slightly bigger heatsink, even Noctua NH-D15 will have big problems with 200W, it's AIO territory. But if this is for gaming then this cooler will be okay because i9 9900k despite consuming about 250W in stress tests will consume just about 75W or less in gaming.

PS: Consider 'well cooled' if it's anything less than 80掳 C under load, you can lower RPMs to reduce noise if it's lower than that.


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1 minute ago, Juular said:

TDP ratings CPU & cooler manufacturers assign are complete senseless bullshit. No way this cooler are capable of cooling off 200W of heat, it's basically just CM Hyper 212 with slightly bigger heatsink, even Noctua NH-D15 will have big problems with 200W, it's AIO territory. But if this is for gaming then this cooler will be okay because i9 9900k despite consuming about 250W in stress tests will consume just about 75W or less in gaming.

I agree that TDP numbers are complete nonsense, but it should still give some idea of what CPUs it can handle.
As for the 9900k consuming 250W... no, no way unless it's heavily overclocked. I'm not saying it only consumes 95W because it doesn't, it is closer to 160W, maybe 175W max but nowhere near 250W.


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Just now, Mnky313 said:

I agree that TDP numbers are complete nonsense, but it should still give some idea of what CPUs it can handle.
As for the 9900k consuming 250W... no, no way unless it's heavily overclocked. I'm not saying it only consumes 95W because it doesn't, it is closer to 160W, maybe 175W max but nowhere near 250W.

5GHz, i wouldn't say it's 'heavily' OC, but yes, it's 200W in stock.

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3 minutes ago, Juular said:

5GHz, i wouldn't say it's 'heavily' OC, but yes, it's 200W in stock.

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Both Anandtech and GamersNexus among others show 160-170W depending on the board, though with ET (I presume Extended Turbo?) it does climb to 190W.


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1 minute ago, Mnky313 said:

Both Anandtech and GamersNexus among others show 160-170W depending on the board, though with ET (I presume Extended Turbo?) it does climb to 190W.

Different workloads, different motherboards (and thus different 'stock' settings). Regardless, who's buying i9 9900k to keep it stock ? Get R5 3600 then. Intel CPUs shine when OC'd.


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31 minutes ago, Juular said:

Different workloads, different motherboards (and thus different 'stock' settings). Regardless, who's buying i9 9900k to keep it stock ? Get R5 3600 then. Intel CPUs shine when OC'd.

well i am , i won`t be overclocking it , am getting it for future proofing in games and some workloads (that are not that heavy)

otherwise if i stay on the 8400 for the next 4 years, and the 9900k runs out of stock i would have to up the mobo too

second hand market in my country is almost nonexistant , the only way i would get my hand on a used 9900k would be buying a complete used system

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5 minutes ago, Goliath_1911 said:

well i am , i won`t be overclocking it

Not that you will be able to, that motherboard has rather weak VRM for i9.

Maybe it would be better to sell your current board and go for R5 3600 & MSI B450 A-Pro\GP instead ? You don't need i9 for gaming if you don't intend on OC'ing it.


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1 hour ago, Juular said:

Not that you will be able to, that motherboard has rather weak VRM for i9.

Maybe it would be better to sell your current board and go for R5 3600 & MSI B450 A-Pro\GP instead ? You don't need i9 for gaming if you don't intend on OC'ing it.

i know it is weak for overclocking, i got the board for its I/0, the cheaper ones (that were avialable)had no gigabit net , no usb 3 or c , and then the ones that can overclock properly are too expensive

i have read that it can handle the i9 without overclocking, and i wont be

but as i said i will be getting the i9 for future proofing聽 , so if all goes good this rig聽 should last me atleast 7 years or even more (with gpu upgrades after 6聽years probably )聽

also i already am using these parts, except i got a i5 8400 instead , i won`t sell the whole thing and switch the entire thing聽to stay on 6 cores

Maybe in 2 years games will use a minimum of 6 cores, who knows ,get my point??

i will research more on the board not handling the i9聽 and will act accordingly聽

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3 minutes ago, Goliath_1911 said:

i will research more on the board not handling the i9聽 and will act accordingly聽

It will handle stock i9 all right, it's just that it's weak for OC'ing. If you don't intend to do that then it's okay but you really shouldn't get i9 9900k then, if you really want 16-thread CPU then R7 3700X would have been cheaper and you will be able to upgrade it to next generations too.

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Maybe in 2 years games will use a minimum of 6 cores, who knows ,get my point??

Games already use 6 threads mostly, you mean 8\12 threads, doubtfully so, in 5 years maybe.


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Sell current parts and buy a 3900x for "10 year future proof"

You'll probably (hopefully) be slow af at around the 7 year mark, but in terms of parallelization you'll be golden.


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