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ryzen 5 2600x vs 3600

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I bought a ryzen 5 2600x for my gaming pc and I will be pairing it wil a 5700xt red devil, to play AAA games in 1440p 144hz. The 2600x costed 125 euros and the 3600 costs 190. Did I do the right choice? It seems like there is a big price difference between the 2600x and the 3600. Is it worth spending more money and getting the 3600?

 

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The 3600 is on par with Intel offerings for the most part, while the 2600X is not. For gaming, I mean.

 

3600 is a better choice, especially at those resolutions and that GPU.  I would pay the difference for what you gain.  I did on the Intel side a few years ago, so the price isn't an issue.  If you can afford it, do it.

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1440p is more often than not gpu limited even with a 5700xt

 

In games that the 5700x can push above say 80-100fps the 2600x will probably struggle, but in others like RDR2/Metro Exodus, it won't matter either the 2600x or 3600 will still be gpu limited

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yes

 

edit:

I meant to quote @Plutosaurus... honestly, my phone opened this post at his comment so I thought that he is the OP

 

Edit2:

 

The 3600 is definitely better for high refresh rate gaming but it really depends on what games and which settings you use. 

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1 hour ago, Plutosaurus said:

In games that the 5700x can push above say 80-100fps the 2600x will probably struggle, but in others like RDR2/Metro Exodus, it won't matter either the 2600x or 3600 will still be gpu limited

 

36 minutes ago, WereCat said:

The 3600 is definitely better for high refresh rate gaming but it really depends on what games and which settings you use. 

So let's say I use the 2600x and 5700xt to play games like Witcher 3, Far cry 5 etc. Will the cpu bottleneck my gpu? What if I overclock the cpu a bit?

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1 minute ago, Manuel-KLG said:

 

So let's say I use the 2600x and 5700xt to play games like Witcher 3, Far cry 5 etc. Will the cpu bottleneck my gpu? What if I overclock the cpu a bit?

you will be fine 

Yes, OCing CPU will help in games that are more demanding on CPU and already run at well over 100FPS.

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12 minutes ago, Manuel-KLG said:

 

So let's say I use the 2600x and 5700xt to play games like Witcher 3, Far cry 5 etc. Will the cpu bottleneck my gpu? What if I overclock the cpu a bit?

Prob not much if at all.

 

Games like RS6S, CSGO, other esports games that aren't super gpu intensive, maybe/probably.

 

Games that are more single-threaded like MMOs, probably.

 

Triple A titles generally are gpu focused and need lots of CPU threads, so not really.

 

3600 might give you slightly more GPU headroom for future upgrades, though.

 

See 8700k stock vs 2600x with a 2080ti. That's closer (still more than, though) the difference between a 2600x and 3600 with a theoretical future mid-range gpu upgrade.

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22 hours ago, jstudrawa said:

The 3600 is on par with Intel offerings for the most part, while the 2600X is not. For gaming, I mean.

 

3600 is a better choice, especially at those resolutions and that GPU.  I would pay the difference for what you gain.  I did on the Intel side a few years ago, so the price isn't an issue.  If you can afford it, do it.

can you expand more on your thoughts with 3600 vs 2600x

3600 6c/12t  $190

2600x 6c/12t $150 with a better bin then 2600, better cooler

 

though $40 is not that big a jump, still makes ya wonder the adv on one over the other. both have same freq

3600 65w

2600x 95w

 

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6 minutes ago, amdorintel said:

both have same freq

3600 65w

2600x 95w

 

Different arch, Zen 2 has a much higher IPC so it performs better at lower clocks, the fact that it's at the same clocks makes it even faster. Zen 2's IPC is actually faster than Intel's at this point, Intel just has enough of a potential clockspeed headroom advantage to still lead at the very top end of gaming workloads. 

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13 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Different arch, Zen 2 has a much higher IPC so it performs better at lower clocks, the fact that it's at the same clocks makes it even faster. Zen 2's IPC is actually faster than Intel's at this point, Intel just has enough of a potential clockspeed headroom advantage to still lead at the very top end of gaming workloads. 

Iirc core core latency plays a part as well 

 

Even though the 3900x scores the same as an 8700k at 5ghz single threaded in cinebench, it still trails behind in most games because ringbus is like half the latency as infinity fabric

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1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

Iirc core core latency plays a part as well 

 

Even though the 3900x scores the same as an 8700k at 5ghz single threaded in cinebench, it still trails behind in most games because ringbus is like half the latency as infinity fabric

I wonder how a well tuned 3900X compares to a 9900K or 8700K that's also tuned. Cache/ring OCing can apparently massively tighten up scores (ring makes a difference on my Haswell-E chips too, and uncore is basically the same thing on X58). There's lots of room for small optimizations on both platforms, seeing two basically F1-level tuned chips go head to head could be interesting. I do know from recent reviews that tweaked timings on RAM does help gaming perf for both platforms. 

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2 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Different arch, Zen 2 has a much higher IPC so it performs better at lower clocks, the fact that it's at the same clocks makes it even faster. Zen 2's IPC is actually faster than Intel's at this point, Intel just has enough of a potential clockspeed headroom advantage to still lead at the very top end of gaming workloads. 

true, i think the benefit of intel, from what i've heard, is that if you go with intel x299 you can get more pcie lanes, which is a special circumstance for those who need it over Ryzen. maybe its not niche per-se, but its an option.

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4 minutes ago, amdorintel said:

true, i think the benefit of intel, from what i've heard, is that if you go with intel x299 you can get more pcie lanes, which is a special circumstance for those who need it over Ryzen. maybe its not niche per-se, but its an option.

That's not Intel-specific, AMD has Threadripper, same set of benefits as X299, scaling up to higher performance options (like, much higher performing) but also topping out at a higher price point. 

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10 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

That's not Intel-specific, AMD has Threadripper, same set of benefits as X299, scaling up to higher performance options (like, much higher performing) but also topping out at a higher price point. 

ah ok thanks, maybe i just heard the cpu lane analogy wrong from bullzoid, matter of mobo choice i guess.

 

i think its always wise to go with whatever is newest, and as you pointed out, the 3600 is a better choice over the 2600x with the minimal price difference between the two. i think a good point to make is for people going with either choice 2600/2600x/3600 is to buy a motherboard that is capable of the 4th gen ryzen, with the mobo having the bios flashback feature. its a reasonable option to have, when building a new pc, but also price point is a factor. i think too many people just cheap out on the mobo selection, which doesnt make any sense whatsoever. Like $180 for a cpu, yet they spend $80 on a mobo, when a $130mobo is way better in terms of features, future proofing and so on. And even spending $150-$160 is just getting that bit extra of features and future proofing.

 

the packaging of the product in a $80 mobo, takes up a significant factor, then all other fixed costs too like the connectors, pcb etc. fixed costs, and a $80 is cheaping out big time. selling the consumer short on so many levels, but the demand is there!

 

 

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