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After installing a 240 for the cpu i can happily say it is running at 4.2 at 1.375 volts. The system no longer crashes out on cinibench r20 and can even run aida 64 now with both cpu and fpu tests running without any crashing. On a kraken x52 240 it sits at a happy 85c on aidas stress test running fpu and cpu.

I have a system with a 2700x ocd to 4.2 on all cores at 1.375 volts and a titan x pascal. I was wondering if i slapped some 110cfm fans non pwm mind you would it be enough to cool the combo. As it stands the gpu is water cooled but id like to water cool my cpu because in gaming it gets up into the 60s and if i try to run say cinibench r20 i instantly hit thermal shutdown. I believe it is my thermal compound holding it back but i just wanna custom loop my rig.

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5 minutes ago, Kingkems said:

I have a system with a 2700x ocd to 4.2 on all cores at 1.375 volts and a titan x pascal. I was wondering if i slapped some 110cfm fans non pwm mind you would it be enough to cool the combo. As it stands the gpu is water cooled but id like to water cool my cpu because in gaming it gets up into the 60s and if i try to run say cinibench r20 i instantly hit thermal shutdown. I believe it is my thermal compound holding it back but i just wanna custom loop my rig.

Are you 100% sure it's shutting down due to hitting thermal limit? 60's when gaming sounds fine.

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1 minute ago, DoctorNick said:

Are you 100% sure it's shutting down due to hitting thermal limit? 60's when gaming sounds fine.

Certain loads cause the temps to jump past 80c and it black screens with max cpu fan speed.

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9 minutes ago, Kingkems said:

I have a system with a 2700x ocd to 4.2 on all cores at 1.375 volts and a titan x pascal. I was wondering if i slapped some 110cfm fans non pwm mind you would it be enough to cool the combo. As it stands the gpu is water cooled but id like to water cool my cpu because in gaming it gets up into the 60s and if i try to run say cinibench r20 i instantly hit thermal shutdown. I believe it is my thermal compound holding it back but i just wanna custom loop my rig.

How do you even know your stable if your hitting thermal shutdown? 1.375v for 4.2 doesn't sound stable, I could see 1.4v on avg good silicon.

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2 minutes ago, ddennis002 said:

How do you even know your stable if your hitting thermal shutdown? 1.375v for 4.2 doesn't sound stable, I could see 1.4v on avg good silicon.

I havnt had any stability issues at 4.2 other than extremely high temps. When i run aida 64 i can run cpu but if i run fpu and cpu the temp shoots past 90c instantly and it black screens.

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1 minute ago, Kingkems said:

I havnt had any stability issues at 4.2 other than extremely high temps. When i run aida 64 i can run cpu but if i run fpu and cpu the temp shoots past 90c instantly and it black screens.

Going to a black screen = stability issues.

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1 minute ago, For Science! said:

Going to a black screen = stability issues.

I believe its temp related because it dosnt crash out until it goes past 90. I tried 1.4 and 1.425 and i still get the same result. It jumps in aida 64 by integers of 20c when i start the stress tests. Ive ran 3d mark more times than i can count and i havnt had any games crash on me.

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1 minute ago, Kingkems said:

I havnt had any stability issues at 4.2 other than extremely high temps. When i run aida 64 i can run cpu but if i run fpu and cpu the temp shoots past 90c instantly and it black screens.

Are you OCing using stock heat sink? Im going to bet its not stable but its hitting thermal limit before it can crash from instability. I have a 360mm custom loop OC 4.2Ghz @ 1.41v and under prime or aida i hit 80c within 10 seconds thats with a 1 gallon res using a d5 pump. I barely have any voltage overshoot either. Ryzen is very compact die and gets hot even under water at full load.

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Modern CPUs don't shutdown when hitting thermal limit, they just throttle heavily, if you have shutdowns under high load then it's bad power delivery. What's your PSU ? And how it shutdowns excactly ? Hard shutdown without turning on after ? Hard reset without stop code ? Restart with stop code (BSOD) ? Display artifacting and then restart ?

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2 minutes ago, ddennis002 said:

Are you OCing using stock heat sink? Im going to bet its not stable but its hitting thermal limit before it can crash from instability. I have a 360mm custom loop OC 4.2Ghz @ 1.41v and under prime or aida i hit 80c within 10 seconds thats with a 1 gallon res using a d5 pump. I barely have any voltage overshoot either. Ryzen is very compact die and gets hot even under water at full load.

Im not sure because in cpu dependent games like beam.ng drive and minecraft i havnt had any crashes. Mc i have it set to 128 render chunks and max temp i saw was 95c before i decided to turn it down.

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1 minute ago, Juular said:

Modern CPUs don't shutdown when hitting thermal limit, they just throttle heavily, if you have shutdowns under high load then it's bad power delivery, what's your PSU ?

Im running a thermaltake smartpower 750 80+ bronze rated.

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1 minute ago, Kingkems said:

Im running a thermaltake smartpower 750 80+ bronze rated.

What's your GPU and motherboard ?

Edit: i see, Titan Xp, you're lucky that PSU didn't blowup on it yet, replace it ASAP, or get less power hungry GPU.

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Just now, Juular said:

What's your GPU and motherboard ?

Im running a titan x pascal water cooled that loves 1886 on core and a asrock fatal1ty b450 k4

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6 minutes ago, Juular said:
7 minutes ago, Juular said:

What's your GPU and motherboard ?

Edit: i see, Titan Xp, you're lucky that PSU didn't blowup on it yet, replace it ASAP, or get less power hungry GPU.

I was running a vega 64 before that was pulling 300+ watts of power so i dont think its psu related.

 

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5 minutes ago, Kingkems said:

Im running a titan x pascal water cooled that loves 1886 on core and a asrock fatal1ty b450 k4

What about shutdowns ? It's hard shutdown or reset ?

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Just now, Juular said:

What about shutdowns ? It's hard shutdown or reset ?

Its just black screen and i have to either hold the power button or hit the psu switch.

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1 minute ago, Kingkems said:

Its just black screen and i have to either hold the power button or hit the psu switch.

So it freezes, not shutdowns ?

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1 minute ago, Kingkems said:

I believe its temp related because it dosnt crash out until it goes past 90. I tried 1.4 and 1.425 and i still get the same result. It jumps in aida 64 by integers of 20c when i start the stress tests. Ive ran 3d mark more times than i can count and i havnt had any games crash on me.

Thats like if I bump up to 42.5 multiplier I can boot all day 1.41v but no stable under load no matter how much voltage i get it ive went as high as 1.475v and cannot get past 4.2Ghz even tried ice water no go.

 

A 360mm rad is going to be your best bet

3 minutes ago, Kingkems said:

Its just black screen and i have to either hold the power button or hit the psu switch.

Thats system instability, if it was heat it would restart and bios message would set for thermal shutdown.

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Just now, Juular said:

So it freezes, not shutdowns ?

Idk it black screens and dosnt come back it kinda has the same behavior that my vega 64 had because itd peg 105c on hot spot and not have time to throttle which i think im having the same issue with cpu now. I didnt start having this issue until i put a radiator behind 1 of my fans and completely change the pressure inside of my case.

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If that's the case it's just that your CPU can't work on that frequency and voltage, try raising voltage or lowering frequency. But i still advice you to replace your PSU, it's outdated, you shouldn't have it near any modern PC, not to say one with 300W GPU.

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As of cooling system, 240mm isn't very different from a good air cooler for the same price, either get some big air cooler or go straight for 280\360mm AIO.

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Just now, Juular said:

If that's the case it's just that your CPU can't work on that frequency and voltage, try raising voltage or lowering frequency. But i still advice you to replace your PSU, it's outdated, you shouldn't have it near any modern PC, not to say one with 300W GPU.

I havnt had issues with the psu and im not ocing my gpu. I was planning to replace it soon anyway because i wanna run sli titan x pascals. Also aida 64 is reporting back max temp on cpu at 105c when it shuts down.

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1 minute ago, Kingkems said:

I havnt had issues with the psu and im not ocing my gpu. I was planning to replace it soon anyway because i wanna run sli titan x pascals. Also aida 64 is reporting back max temp on cpu at 105c when it shuts down.

Do you have CPU thermal limit set in BIOS ? If no then set it to 90° C, it shouldn't raise over that number under any circumstances.

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1 minute ago, Kingkems said:

I havnt had issues with the psu and im not ocing my gpu. I was planning to replace it soon anyway because i wanna run sli titan x pascals. Also aida 64 is reporting back max temp on cpu at 105c when it shuts down.

Keep going at that rate pumping that voltage into the chip with high heat your going to degrade that silicon quick and it won't hold a decent OC even under water.

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Just now, Juular said:

Do you have CPU thermal limit set in BIOS ? If no then set it to 90° C, it shouldn't raise over that number under any circumstances.

I dont think there is an option for thermal limit also heres the psu im using. Thermaltake Smart 750W 80+ Bronze ATX 12V 2.4/EPS 12V 2.92 Power Supply SP-750PCBUS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A00LR6G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_8Hp8DbVX1TSFP

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