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M2 SSD Bootproblems

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I got a new M2 SSD and installed it in my Computer. As I started just the fans and RGB turned on. No Picture to be seen, just balk. I can not get into the BIOS.

I tested an other M2.SSD, but it had the same problem. If i put my normal SSD back in, it works as normal. I read all I could find on this Topic but did not find anithing usefull.

 

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You need to list your components, especially motherboard.


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5 minutes ago, Crepmaehn said:

I got a new M2 SSD and installed it in my Computer. As I started just the fans and RGB turned on. No Picture to be seen, just balk. I can not get into the BIOS.

I hab an other M2.SSD but it had the same problem. If i put my normal SSD back in, it works as normal. I read all I could find on this Topic but did not find anithing usefull.

When you "installed the m.2" did you literally just mount it into the m.2 slot on your motherboard and that's it?  What happens when you remove it? Is your old OS drive still installed when you are doing this? Need system info as well.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, JM21 said:

When you "installed the m.2" did you literally just mount it into the m.2 slot on your motherboard and that's it?  What happens when you remove it? Is your old OS drive still installed when you are doing this? Need system info as well.

I tried it both, with and without the Old drive. Same result. and if I take the M.2 and put the old Drive inside it just works.

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8 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

You need to list your components, especially motherboard.

 did list the mobo


Quote me for a reply, React if I was helpful, informative, or funny

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5 minutes ago, scuff gang said:

 did list the mobo

He edited the post, the list wasn't there when I posted.


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Did you try the other m2 slot? Is BIOS latest?


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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, Kilrah said:

Did you try the other m2 slot?

The other slot is SATA 3 and it is beneath the Graphics Card and theresor useless because the M.2 has a cooler on it.

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10 minutes ago, Crepmaehn said:

I tried it both, with and without the Old drive. Same result. and if I take the M.2 and put the old Drive inside it just works.

Check the boot priority when the old drive is installed, then install the m.2 with the old drive still installed and see what happens, you should be able to clone the old drive to the m.2 then remove the old drive and it "should" work. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, JM21 said:

Check the boot priority when the old drive is installed, then install the m.2 with the old drive still installed and see what happens, you should be able to clone the old drive to the m.2 then remove the old drive and it "should" work. 

I can not do this because the System does not post with the old Drive. Just Blackscreen, but fans and RGB work. I can not get into the BIOS any of the M.2s is installed.

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7 minutes ago, Crepmaehn said:

The other slot is SATA 3 and it is beneath the Graphics Card and theresor useless because the M.2 has a cooler on it.

The other slot supports both SATA and PCIe. Trying it will help pinpoint what's wrong...

 

You don't have anything in PCIe slot 4, right?


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21 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

The other slot supports both SATA and PCIe. Trying it will help pinpoint what's wrong...

 

You don't have anything in PCIe slot 4, right?

Ok, I put the Graphics Card into the other PCIe and the M.2 into the other M.2 mount. My Sytem booted but the M.2 does not show up in the BIOS. But I think iI can solve this with a little bit of tweaking.

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2 minutes ago, Crepmaehn said:

Ok, I put the Graphics Card into the other PCIe

There are 6 of them... Where was it and where is it now


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The Mainboard has just 2 PCIe 3.0 16x. I do not know which it was in, but I guess it was the first, if you are counting from the bottom of the Mainboard. The M.2 is in the the second M.2 Socket with PCIe Gen3 and SATA3 Support.

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Ah yes, only 2 long slots.

See the mobo manual, the bottom PCIe slot (PCIE4) conflicts with the top m.2 slot, if a drive is in it the PCIE4 slot gets disabled, hence your black screen. 

Also the bottom PCIe is only x4 even if the connector is full length, so you want the GPU in the top one (PCIE2). And then you should be able to plug your m.2 in the top slot, which is x4. the bottom m.2 is only x2.

 

That's how it should be.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Ah yes, only 2 long slots.

See the mobo manual, the bottom PCIe slot (PCIE4) conflicts with the top m.2 slot, if a drive is in it the PCIE4 slot gets disabled, hence your black screen. 

Also the bottom PCIe is only x4 even if the connector is full length, so you want the GPU in the top one (PCIE2). And then you should be able to plug your m.2 in the top slot, which is x4. the bottom m.2 is only x2.

 

That's how it should be.

I will try it right away thanks.

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12 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Ah yes, only 2 long slots.

See the mobo manual, the bottom PCIe slot (PCIE4) conflicts with the top m.2 slot, if a drive is in it the PCIE4 slot gets disabled, hence your black screen. 

Also the bottom PCIe is only x4 even if the connector is full length, so you want the GPU in the top one (PCIE2). And then you should be able to plug your m.2 in the top slot, which is x4. the bottom m.2 is only x2.

 

That's how it should be.

Ok, now it shows up in the BIOS, even if it does not show up in Windows explorer, I can find it in the Settings, so I think I can solve this. Thank you very much, you saved me days of running against walls just because I am to stupid to switch the Slots. This is my first build so...

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Cool. You'll now have to go in Disk manager to initialize it, create a partition and format it, then it'll be available in Windows.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
6 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Cool. You'll now have to go in Disk manager to initialize it, create a partition and format it, then it'll be available in Windows.

My current Plan is just to clone my other Drive on to it and than get rid of the old one, that should work. I think windows automatically fromated the drive as I booted. If I run into Problems I'll come back to your solution. Thank you very much and have a nice day.

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