R7 3700X vs i7 7700K

[Alcatraz1015]

Hello,

 

So, I’m looking for a little verification and validation. This will be my first AMD CPU. I purchased a 3700X a few days ago due to a decent deal I got. I’ve had a 7700K since June 2017. It has served me well but I figured with newer games having more thread support I might as well get an 8C/16T processor. I have an ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus mobo on the way too, fyi. 

 

My concerns are: did I pull the trigger too soon? Was there even a point in me going ahead a swapping from 4C/8T to 8/16 right now? Are my thoughts of preparing for the future delusions?

 

By the by, I understand AMD’s CPUs are made to run faster with higher clocked RAM. So, with that, know that I have a 32GB kit (8x4) of Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3333Mhz. Should I consider a higher clocked kit?

[Flying Sausages]

4c/8t to 8c/16t is a huge upgrade and improvement. Newer games will going to rip your 4c/8t usage. 8c/16t you can play game and watch hentai in the background no problem but on 4c/8t is going to be struggle.

[Drak3]

While you pulled the trigger a bit soon IMO, the way things have been going the last half decade, the 3700X will still be relevant.

[Mister Woof]

I'll be in the minority here and say, if all you were doing was gaming, then no, it wasn't really worth it because the 7700k still has some life left in it. 

 

Generally worst case scenario:

 

 

It's not a HUGE difference. And this is a stock 7700k. See attachment for RDR2 from Gamers Nexus - still not huge.

 

Were I you, I would have held on until Ryzen 4000 at least, which is reported to be even faster (and probably actually beat intel at gaming through and through) and you will notice a huge difference. 

 

But, it's a good chip, and you can still use your 7700k for other things. Can also try to sell it to people who foolishly bought i5s.

 

The 3700x will also demolish the 7700k at anything else.

 

 

If it was me I'd return it and hold out on the 7700k until next summer when 4000 launches.

[Alcatraz1015]

13 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

I'll be in the minority here and say, if all you were doing was gaming, then no, it wasn't really worth it because the 7700k still has some life left in it. 

 

Generally worst case scenario:

 

 

It's not a HUGE difference. And this is a stock 7700k. See attachment for RDR2 from Gamers Nexus - still not huge.

 

Were I you, I would have held on until Ryzen 4000 at least, which is reported to be even faster (and probably actually beat intel at gaming through and through) and you will notice a huge difference. 

 

But, it's a good chip, and you can still use your 7700k for other things. Can also try to sell it to people who foolishly bought i5s.

 

The 3700x will also demolish the 7700k at anything else.

 

 

If it was me I'd return it and hold out on the 7700k until next summer when 4000 launches.

Fantastic. Thank you very much for the response and data. 

[Mister Woof]

Another reference for specifically the 3700x. There are some improvements for sure, but i don't know if its a game changer.

 

In this one, most games on the 3700x have better minimums, and in others, no change, and in a few, the 7700k actually does better.

 

None of the FPS lows are terrible on the 7700k, though, which I think is the takeaway.

[amdorintel]

55 minutes ago, Alcatraz1015 said:

ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus

I better choice would have been ASUS ROG Strix X570-I Gaming at $250, strongest vrm, but no post code, no clear cmos, no other extreme oc features.

 

ASUS ROG Crosshair 7 Hero wifi $230

lots of oc features, dont care for pcie4.0, post code, bios flashback, clear cmos rear io, non wifi is $20 cheaper, great board

 

Ah I see, I am mistaken, yes the TUF Gaming plus is a great board too, $195, wifi, solid vrm, has some t/s features, good heatsink.

 

ok yeah no I did not see your mobo, must've been some other tuf branded mobo that was shitty. all the mobo's are naming shit tuf this, gaming that, its getting hard to keep track.

 

 

you do want bios flashback, because then you can go to ryzen 4000 series.

[Princess Luna]

If all you do is game and when you're gaming there's not much multi-tasking going on then I also second that ditching the i7 7700K is by no means necessary yet...

 

Could you specify your GPU and display settings?

[Alcatraz1015]

2 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

If all you do is game and when you're gaming there's not much multi-tasking going on then I also second that ditching the i7 7700K is by no means necessary yet...

 

Could you specify your GPU and display settings?

Sure, I have an RTX 2080 FE OC’d to almost 2.2Ghz and memory clocked to 8Ghz. And my display is a 24” Dell... something... 2560x1440 1ms 165hz.

[Mister Woof]

Just now, Alcatraz1015 said:

Sure, I have an RTX 2080 FE OC’d to almost 2.2Ghz and memory clocked to 8Ghz. And my display is a 24” Dell... something... 2560x1440 1ms 165hz.

all those benchmarks are with a 2080ti, so your results will be even less pronounced 

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Alcatraz1015 said:

Sure, I have an RTX 2080 FE OC’d to almost 2.2Ghz and memory clocked to 8Ghz. And my display is a 24” Dell... something... 2560x1440 1ms 165hz.

Honestly I wouldn't touch anything until next year with AMD 7nm+ and Intel 10nm hitting the market, you're somewhat trading six for half a dozen here on gaming strictly.

 

Even if the i7 7700K max outs usage it still can handle much the same way the R7 3700X would in gaming most of the time, if you have it overclocked then it's really not worth ditching it yet.

[Alcatraz1015]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

Honestly I wouldn't touch anything until next year with AMD 7nm+ and Intel 10nm hitting the market, you're somewhat trading six for half a dozen here on gaming strictly.

 

Even if the i7 7700K max outs usage it still can handle much the same way the R7 3700X would in gaming most of the time, if you have it overclocked then it's really not worth ditching it yet.

Yeah, I’m thinking with your and another’s feedback, I’ll probably just maintain my 7700K for a while yet. The 3700X and mobo are easily returnable. I saw a good deal and I jumped first just in case but it seems like it’s not really worth the time to have to completely reboot my system for what will mostly be minimal gains for the immediate future.

 

I appreciate the input. 

[TheDankKoosh]

My general opinion when it comes to ryzen is along the lines of "if you know how to overclock and tune your ram, knock yourself out, if not, don't bother." Ryzen requires some tweaking before it can hold up in gaming, but it is almost always better in productivity due to more efficient smt and generally amazing in price/perf. I always suggest ryzen to my buddies (even those on i7s) since I can walk them through and even perform the overclocking for them, but I understand why someone may not want to go through the hassle.

[Alcatraz1015]

On 12/8/2019 at 7:35 PM, Plutosaurus said:

all those benchmarks are with a 2080ti, so your results will be even less pronounced 

So here’s what I ended up doing, I returned the 3700X and mobo and swapped to a 9900K and the Z390 chipset version of my current MSI mobo. I offered my 7700K and mobo to a buddy of mine for $275. Everything considered, I will have basically spent less than $30 and upgraded to a 9900K - which I know beyond a doubt is a massive upgrade over my 7700K.

[Mister Woof]

40 minutes ago, Alcatraz1015 said:

So here’s what I ended up doing, I returned the 3700X and mobo and swapped to a 9900K and the Z390 chipset version of my current MSI mobo. I offered my 7700K and mobo to a buddy of mine for $275. Everything considered, I will have basically spent less than $30 and upgraded to a 9900K - which I know beyond a doubt is a massive upgrade over my 7700K.

Can't fault that upgrade. Enjoy!

[Alcatraz1015]

22 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

Can't fault that upgrade. Enjoy!

I appreciated your input. That’s why the 9900K is happening. Thanks again.