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MrCJLambert

Hi Guys,

Planning on building a new PC soon. Set my self a budget of £2500 and I want to build a silent Mini-ITX build. I'm just unsure on going with an AIO or Air cooling. Here's my planned rig.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cthwgJ

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£313.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler  (£32.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z390M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£149.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£118.62 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£174.22 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB DUKE Video Card  (£644.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT H200 Mini ITX Tower Case  (£70.72 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£91.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1596.49

Any comments appreciated.

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When you say “silent” how silent?  Will you overclock the 9700k?

That GPU looks like it will be potentially the loudest thing.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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34 minutes ago, -CL- said:

I'm just unsure on going with an AIO or Air cooling.

Either way, not small towers like the Hyper 212

 

that board wont hold up with overclocking either

 

overkill PSU, at this point even 550w PSU is sufficient. NZXT H200 or the newer 210 prefers SFX PSU if you want better GPU thermals.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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What is the pc being used for ?

 

Do you need a monitor ? If not what monitor are you going to be using ?

 

Also why mini itx ? Do you need a small case for a specific reason ?

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Hey CL,

I have looked at your configuration and changed some stuff.

 

What I changed:

Mobo to a rog strix z390

I put in a AIO from nzxt what should be fitting in the case (I looked it up)

RAM to a nice looking one in my opinion

GPU to a 2080S to match the mobo

PSU to a 650w cuz that is 200 w more than you need and you have some power over if you want to upgrade.

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8 hours ago, -CL- said:

Hi Guys,

Planning on building a new PC soon. Set my self a budget of £2500 and I want to build a silent Mini-ITX build. I'm just unsure on going with an AIO or Air cooling. Here's my planned rig.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cthwgJ

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£313.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler  (£32.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z390M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£149.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£118.62 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£174.22 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB DUKE Video Card  (£644.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT H200 Mini ITX Tower Case  (£70.72 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£91.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1596.49

Any comments appreciated.

 

 

This should be your video card, or the one lilotus posted:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/RTX-2080-SUPER-VENTUS-DisplayPort/dp/B07X5BRZZF/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=2080+super&qid=1575840551&sr=8-3

With your budget, you have a few options for AiO, would highly recommend for an aesthetic build in an h200 case.

 

This would go nicely with the h200, NZXT theme:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/NZXT-Kraken-240mm-All-One/dp/B06XYSVXYX/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=kraken+x52&qid=1575840376&sr=8-2

 

Or if you want something cheaper the ml240l is a good option:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-MasterLiquid-ML240L-Liquid/dp/B075YPG52N/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=240+aio&qid=1575840483&sr=8-5

 

Or this arctic on (I've had great luck with their fans being silent).

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B07XLMB3WG/ref=sr_1_18?keywords=240+aio&qid=1575840675&sr=8-18

 

I edit the shit out of my posts.  Refresh before you respond.

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Also, If this is a gaming PC, there's no point in getting a 970 evo.  A crucial P1 uses the same smart caching as the 660p and will offer identical performance in games and windows usage.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT1000P1SSD8-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B07J2Q4SWZ/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=1tb+ssd+m.2&qid=1575840811&sr=8-5

High-end SSDs are a meme at this point, really only usefull for very impatient HEDT users or high-demand media servers.

I edit the shit out of my posts.  Refresh before you respond.

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35 minutes ago, lilotus.FRM said:

Hey CL,

I have looked at your configuration and changed some stuff.

 

What I changed:

Mobo to a rog strix z390

I put in a AIO from nzxt what should be fitting in the case (I looked it up)

RAM to a nice looking one in my opinion

GPU to a 2080S to match the mobo

PSU to a 650w cuz that is 200 w more than you need and you have some power over if you want to upgrade.

200 pounds is silly for a gaming motherboard.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-Z390I-GAMING-Socket-S-ATA/dp/B07HSC8RKX/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=mini+itx+z390&qid=1575841230&sr=8-2

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Z390-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-Socket/dp/B07J6762XD/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=mini+itx+z390&qid=1575841230&sr=8-3

 

Either of these would provide the exact same user experience, and I personally prefer Gigabyte's modern UEFIs to ASUS (not that ASUS are bad).  That extra 40 pounds would easily cover the upgrade to an AiO for a quiet, elegant PC.

I edit the shit out of my posts.  Refresh before you respond.

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2 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

200 pounds is silly for a gaming motherboard.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-Z390I-GAMING-Socket-S-ATA/dp/B07HSC8RKX/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=mini+itx+z390&qid=1575841230&sr=8-2

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Z390-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-Socket/dp/B07J6762XD/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=mini+itx+z390&qid=1575841230&sr=8-3

 

Either of these would provide the exact same user experience, and I personally prefer Gigabyte's modern UEFIs to ASUS (not that ASUS are bad).  That extra 40 pounds would easily cover the upgrade to an AiO for a quiet, elegant PC.

I know that is a lot of money for a motherboard but it would go good with the GPU.

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But then you're talking an extra 80 pounds between the GPU and Motherboard to go with ASUS over msi.  That being taken into account with an overpriced SSD for gaming purposes, we're talking a brand tax of roughly 140 pounds.  That money could go towards a second 1tb SSD, a second SSD and an AiO, or just back into the game fund.  Ya dig?

I edit the shit out of my posts.  Refresh before you respond.

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2 hours ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

But then you're talking an extra 80 pounds between the GPU and Motherboard to go with ASUS over msi.  That being taken into account with an overpriced SSD for gaming purposes, we're talking a brand tax of roughly 140 pounds.  That money could go towards a second 1tb SSD, a second SSD and an AiO, or just back into the game fund.  Ya dig?

I don't prefer any brand. I like MSI and Asus but the Strix mobos look a lot better in my opinion. I didn't put the ssd into that configuration. And why anothe 1tb ssd. 1tb should be fine.

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53 minutes ago, lilotus.FRM said:

I don't prefer any brand. I like MSI and Asus but the Strix mobos look a lot better in my opinion. I didn't put the ssd into that configuration. And why anothe 1tb ssd. 1tb should be fine.

It was the crucial P1.  1TB doesnt go as far as it used to with games over 100GB these days, especially considering SSDs slow down past 80 percent load.  But yeah a 970 evo costs twice as much and doesn't offer any benefit for gaming.  Having double the space offers a very obvious benefit.

I edit the shit out of my posts.  Refresh before you respond.

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Evening guys. I have read through your comments and made a few changes to the build.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£317.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X52 Rev 2 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£164.76 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£198.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£150.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£96.81 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  (£659.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT H210i Mini ITX Tower Case  (£119.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (£129.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: NZXT AER RGB 2 52.44 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£26.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: NZXT AER RGB 2 52.44 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£26.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1892.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-10 18:39 GMT+0000

 

This build is about £400 more than the original, but I think it has a few important changes.

On 12/8/2019 at 1:59 PM, Jurrunio said:

Either way, not small towers like the Hyper 212

 

that board wont hold up with overclocking either

 

overkill PSU, at this point even 550w PSU is sufficient. NZXT H200 or the newer 210 prefers SFX PSU if you want better GPU thermals.

I have changed the motherboard to something that I think should work better. Personally i've had great experiences with ASRock motherboards and aesthetically looks very nice IMO. I've also changed to an SFX PSU at a lower wattage.

On 12/8/2019 at 9:35 PM, Queen Chrysalis said:

Also, If this is a gaming PC, there's no point in getting a 970 evo.  A crucial P1 uses the same smart caching as the 660p and will offer identical performance in games and windows usage.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT1000P1SSD8-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B07J2Q4SWZ/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=1tb+ssd+m.2&qid=1575840811&sr=8-5

High-end SSDs are a meme at this point, really only usefull for very impatient HEDT users or high-demand media servers.

I have changed to a crucial P1 SSD. For me, 1 TB is more than enough. Currently I have a 500 GB SSD and a 1 TB HDD and combined I have less than 300 GB used combined with all my racing sims and first person shooters installed.

 

On 12/8/2019 at 9:32 PM, Queen Chrysalis said:

 

 

This should be your video card, or the one lilotus posted:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/RTX-2080-SUPER-VENTUS-DisplayPort/dp/B07X5BRZZF/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=2080+super&qid=1575840551&sr=8-3

With your budget, you have a few options for AiO, would highly recommend for an aesthetic build in an h200 case.

 

This would go nicely with the h200, NZXT theme:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/NZXT-Kraken-240mm-All-One/dp/B06XYSVXYX/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=kraken+x52&qid=1575840376&sr=8-2

 

Or if you want something cheaper the ml240l is a good option:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-MasterLiquid-ML240L-Liquid/dp/B075YPG52N/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=240+aio&qid=1575840483&sr=8-5

 

Or this arctic on (I've had great luck with their fans being silent).

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B07XLMB3WG/ref=sr_1_18?keywords=240+aio&qid=1575840675&sr=8-18

 

I upgraded the GPU to the 2080 Super and upgraded to a 210i because why not. Also decided to go with a Kraken x52 to get some OCing potential. Also threw in some RGB fans to help light it up. Hopefully gonna use this with Razer Chroma and invest in some more peripherals like the Razer Nari headset and a Blackwidow keyboard.

As for some other things, I'm hopefully going to be gaming at 1080p-1440p, but i'll be sorting that out later on.

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TLDR: Is this better?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£317.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X52 Rev 2 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£164.76 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£198.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£150.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£96.81 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  (£659.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT H210i Mini ITX Tower Case  (£119.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (£129.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: NZXT AER RGB 2 52.44 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£26.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: NZXT AER RGB 2 52.44 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£26.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1892.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-10 18:39 GMT+0000

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20 minutes ago, MrCJLambert said:

TLDR: Is this better?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£317.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X52 Rev 2 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£164.76 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£198.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£150.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£96.81 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  (£659.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT H210i Mini ITX Tower Case  (£119.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (£129.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: NZXT AER RGB 2 52.44 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£26.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: NZXT AER RGB 2 52.44 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£26.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1892.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-10 18:39 GMT+0000

I’m not fond of the 9700k personally.  I don’t like it’s lack of hyperthreading. It will work well as long as there are only 8 threads to deal with, but what happens when that number gets higher than 8?. My personal choice for an intel would be something like an 8700k which is only 6 core but does have hyperthreading.  Of course then you’re competing with a 3600 which is much much cheaper.  I find the intel hyperthreading tax to be obnoxious.
 

This machine will be as fast, or nearly as fast, as 9900k until thread count catches up with it.  At least that is what history has shown.  There are those who disagree with this.  The 4/4 CPUs are already starting to have problems where otherwise basically identical 4/8 CPUs are still chugging along.  People are still using 3770ks successfully but 3570ks are not doing well.  It’s an issue more of what happens in the future than what is happening now.  If you’re going to do a motherboard/cpu upgrade when pcie4.0/ddr5 comes out anyway though, there isn’t a lot of point in a 9900k

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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17 hours ago, MrCJLambert said:

Evening guys. I have read through your comments and made a few changes to the build.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£317.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X52 Rev 2 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£164.76 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£198.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£150.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£96.81 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  (£659.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT H210i Mini ITX Tower Case  (£119.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS SGX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (£129.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: NZXT AER RGB 2 52.44 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£26.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case Fan: NZXT AER RGB 2 52.44 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£26.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1892.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-10 18:39 GMT+0000

 

This build is about £400 more than the original, but I think it has a few important changes.

I have changed the motherboard to something that I think should work better. Personally i've had great experiences with ASRock motherboards and aesthetically looks very nice IMO. I've also changed to an SFX PSU at a lower wattage.

I have changed to a crucial P1 SSD. For me, 1 TB is more than enough. Currently I have a 500 GB SSD and a 1 TB HDD and combined I have less than 300 GB used combined with all my racing sims and first person shooters installed.

 

I upgraded the GPU to the 2080 Super and upgraded to a 210i because why not. Also decided to go with a Kraken x52 to get some OCing potential. Also threw in some RGB fans to help light it up. Hopefully gonna use this with Razer Chroma and invest in some more peripherals like the Razer Nari headset and a Blackwidow keyboard.

As for some other things, I'm hopefully going to be gaming at 1080p-1440p, but i'll be sorting that out later on.

1440p all day.  THere is absolutely no point in geting this computer for 1080p gaming.  I would higly recommend 3440x1440 curved, as you get a little extra peripheral vision in most games and the gentle curve keeps the screen aimed at you from the farther edges of a large monitor.

 

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Non-Glare-UltraWide-21-Resolution/dp/B07G5FCR6X/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=3440+1440+144&qid=1576065205&sr=8-3

 

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-Z35P-bmiphz-3440x1440/dp/B06ZZDYVQM/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=3440+1440+144&qid=1576065236&sr=8-6

 

 

I edit the shit out of my posts.  Refresh before you respond.

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