i need advice

[Arika]

Stop saying bottleneck. Its clear you don't understand what it means.

 

Stick with the 7700 regardless if you are getting the 9400 for free, you still need to buy a motherboard, any performance gains will be negligible and not worth the cost. Just get the best GPU you can.

 

If you're not getting the performance numbers you expect, then upgrade your CPU, but the 9400 is not the upgrade path you should be going to.

[marcio]

@MadAnt250 i kind of want to because i need a new gpu anyway i just want to figure out which one is better so i can milk the most performance out

[marcio]

@Arika S i do know what it means also the motherboard is paid for which one is better?

[marcio]

@Fasauceomeisnt the 17 7700k better then the 7700?

 

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, marcio said:

@Fasauceomeisnt the 17 7700k better then the 7700?

 

Yes it has higher turbo speeds, so that video isn't a very perfect comparison.

[marcio]

@Fasauceome fuck man this is rough 

 

[MadAnt250]

10 minutes ago, marcio said:

 i do know what it means also the motherboard is paid for which one is better?

Ok, to help you out, I will do some maths for you, just answer the following questions:

1. Which gtx 1060 do you have?

2. What make and model motherboard is being offered for trade?

3. Are the parts being offered new or used?

[Arika]

2 minutes ago, marcio said:

@Arika S i do know what it means also the motherboard is paid for which one is better?

Neither is "better" they are within margin of error if you were comparing two if the same chip anyway. 

 

Basically it will entirety depend on the game of what's "better" but again, the differences will be barely noticeable.

[marcio]

Spoiler

@MadAnt250

1.i have a 1060 3gb

2.im not sure the motherboard but the Intel Core i5-9400 Coffee Lake 6-Core and the i7 7700(non k) and im not sure the mother board 

3.his i5 and mother board are brand new i didnt buy them everything is free except my the gpu im getting

[marcio]

@MadAnt250

[Tristerin]

@marcio If you have, and own that CPU and motherboard, @Fasauceome is right, don't do it.  I know for a fact I wouldn't go from the i7 7700 to a i5 9400 based on resources, more threads, etc.

 

Heres what it comes down to - and you should keep in mind as well:

 

Used i7 7700 on ebay = $290

New i5 9500 = $150

 

You are losing in this "trade" as well.

[marcio]

@Tristerin so you are suggesting the i7 will provide me with more fps?

 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, marcio said:

@Tristerin so you are suggesting the i7 will provide me with more fps?

 

The results would probably be extremely similar, making the effort to swap motherboards a little wasted.

[MadAnt250]

4 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

@marcio If you have, and own that CPU and motherboard, @Fasauceome is right, don't do it.  I know for a fact I wouldn't go from the i7 7700 to a i5 9400 based on resources, more threads, etc.

 

Heres what it comes down to - and you should keep in mind as well:

 

Used i7 7700 on ebay = $290

New i5 9500 = $150

 

You are losing in this "trade" as well.

 

6 minutes ago, marcio said:

1.i have a 1060 3gb

2.im not sure the motherboard but the Intel Core i5-9400 Coffee Lake 6-Core and the i7 7700(non k) and im not sure the mother board 

3.his i5 and mother board are brand new i didnt buy them everything is free except my the gpu im getting

Ad $100-$120 for GPU

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, marcio said:

@Tristerin so you are suggesting the i7 will provide me with more fps?

 

Im saying, as many have here that its likely a "wash" but that depends on what game.  If a game will use all 8 threads your CPU has, whereas the i5 has 6 you will see even more noticeable improvement.  If a game only uses 1 core, you are going to get basically the same exact results between the CPU's.

 

Because of this "wash" I would rather have the additional 2 threads of the i7 7700 so that when I multitask I have more CPU horsepower (basically)

[Tristerin]

@marcio if you are so interested in maxing your performance you should try to piece out your rig on ebay and buy a better than i5 9400 setup that your brother is offering you in exchange.  You are losing in this trade, performance and $$$ wise.

[marcio]

@Tristerin i wish brother i only have 400$ 

[MadAnt250]

12 minutes ago, marcio said:

1.i have a 1060 3gb

2.im not sure the motherboard but the Intel Core i5-9400 Coffee Lake 6-Core and the i7 7700(non k) and im not sure the mother board 

3.his i5 and mother board are brand new i didnt buy them everything is free except my the gpu im getting

You are trading $400 for $200 for performance you will not notice or in some cases gain. It will almost be the same performance.

[marcio]

@MadAnt250 the only reason i want the i5 is so it can handle the 2070 a little better then the i7 

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, marcio said:

@Tristerin i wish brother i only have 400$ 

Let me get this straight because I feel confused.

 

You own an i7 7700 gaming rig.  You can either trade that rig for a less superior rig (brothers) or not.  Or sell it.  But have $400. 

 

What I am saying is, that if you own this i7 7700 rig you could likely sell the CPU and motherboard, and upgrade WAY beyond the i5 9400 and reuse everything else and spend $0 on this upgrade.  And then spend your $400 on that GPU.

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, marcio said:

@MadAnt250 the only reason i want the i5 is so it can handle the 2070 a little better then the i7 

Im going to part ways with this thread - you aren't listening.

 

i5 will perform same as i7 at a minimum.  The i7 will provide better performance overall (multitasking and gaming at same time) and smash the i5 in games where more than 6 threads will be used.

 

Cant say this any better way.

[marcio]

@Tristerin oh shit your right omg i could sell it 

 

[marcio]

@tristerin how much would i get for it

 

[The Torrent]

Ok I read the first half of the first page and got annoyed.

 

-- 7700 is better keep that

-- if your doing competitive rethink rtx -- are you ever going to use ray tracing?

-- You always have a bottleneck no matter what, otherwise you would have infinite power so dont worry about that.

 

After reading last 3 or 4 posts something about your brother what not idk.

 

DONT GET THE 9400 ITS NOT WORTH IT, 7700 YOU ARE BETTER OFF.

 

consider getting a 5700xt gpu.

 

Consider selling your mobo and cpu, and buying a ryzen 3700x or something, if you have £400 it sounds like you can easy afford a lot better than all of whats going on.

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, marcio said:

@Tristerin oh shit your right omg i could sell it 

 

Listen Linda just listen - you could, but that's on you to check ebay prices, shipping costs, etc

 

If it was me, this is exactly what I would do - buy the new GPU, sell my old GPU - game on.  If I felt like an upgrade was needed beyond that I would then part out the CPU (i7) and motherboard on ebay for the most money possible then upgrade to a Ryzen Zen2 system for that price.