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Which of these cards is best with a Ryzen 5 2400G?

DeadnightWarrior

Hi all,

I'm considering a graphics card to add to my beloved Ryzen 5 2400G / 16Gb 3200 rig.


Please note that I use a 1080p monitor, I'm not looking for "extreme" settings and prices in my country are usually higher than in the US. 

 

I can get one of the following cards, sorted from cheapest to most expensive, with prices ranging from a little less than 150€ and 165€ (roughly 166$ - 182$):

 

- RX 570 4Gb

- RX 570 8Gb

- RX 580 4Gb

- GTX 1650 Super 4Gb

- RX 580 8Gb

 

Which one would you choose?
I'm guessing any one of them would work great with my CPU and honestly I think it would be pointless to go higher than a 1660Ti (which is MUCH more expensive!) .

 

Thank you!

Edited by DeadnightWarrior
euro / dollar conversion fixed

  

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8 minutes ago, DeadnightWarrior said:

Hi all,

an 8GB RX 470/480/570/580

They're all pretty close in performance, should be cheap, and are plenty for 1080p 60hz gaming.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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without knowing the prices and exact models, it's really hard to choose from

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I'd say the 580 8gb but what model?

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

without knowing the prices and exact models, it's really hard to choose from

On Amazon I can find:
- MSI RX 570 ARMOR 4Gb OC - 137€ ( = 151$)

- XFX RX 570 RS 8Gb XXX - 149€ ( = 165$)

 

On other sites I can find:

- Powercolor RX 580 Red Dragon 8Gb - 167€ ( = 185$)
- XFX RX 580 4Gb - 164€ ( = 181$)

- Inno3D GTX 1650 Super 4Gb - 163€ ( = 180$)

 

My self imposed budget is more or less 150€.

Edited by DeadnightWarrior
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4 hours ago, DeadnightWarrior said:

On Amazon I can find:
- MSI RX 570 ARMOR 4Gb OC - 137€ ( = 151$)

- XFX RX 570 RS 8Gb XXX - 149€ ( = 165$)

 

On other sites I can find:

- Powercolor RX 580 Red Dragon 8Gb - 167€ ( = 185$)
- XFX RX 580 4Gb - 164€ ( = 181$)

- Inno3D GTX 1650 Super 4Gb - 163€ ( = 180$)

580 4GB is out when 8GB is this close in price

 

MSI Armor on Polaris cards suck because they are loud and will not survive an European heatwave

 

Get XFX RX 570 if you strictly want to keep it within 150EUR

 

Get 1650S if you may record on-screen content, it has much better built-in video encoder than Polaris

 

Between 8GB RX 580 and 4GB 1650S I'd still choose the 1650S because while performance is very similar overall, 1650S draws less power and kicks out less heat. 8GB isn't very useful at 1080p when you dont max out settings (especially textures, this affects VRAM usage the most). Also because Polaris cards are actually more expensive than they were before.

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Desktop benching:

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On 12/7/2019 at 3:03 PM, Jurrunio said:

580 4GB is out when 8GB is this close in price

 

MSI Armor on Polaris cards suck because they are loud and will not survive an European heatwave

 

Get XFX RX 570 if you strictly want to keep it within 150EUR

 

Get 1650S if you may record on-screen content, it has much better built-in video encoder than Polaris

 

Between 8GB RX 580 and 4GB 1650S I'd still choose the 1650S because while performance is very similar overall, 1650S draws less power and kicks out less heat. 8GB isn't very useful at 1080p when you dont max out settings (especially textures, this affects VRAM usage the most). Also because Polaris cards are actually more expensive than they were before.

Thanks, that's exactly the kind of information I was looking for.

So basically, as I suspected I can skip the 8Gb models.
I don't record / stream but it seems the 1650S could be a nice one.

  

MAIN PC: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G | Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming | RAM: 16Gb DDR4 Patriot Viper 4 3200 | GPU: XFX RX580 4Gb GTS | Case: Sharkoon S25-W | Storage: M.2 NVME Adata Gammix S10 128Gb + SATA SSD WD Blue 1Tb | ODD: LG GH24NSD1 | PSU: Seasonic Core GM-500 | Display: AOC I2490PXQU | Cooler: Wraith Stealth | Keyboard: Logitech K120 | Mouse: Logitech B100 | Sound: the usual integrated Realtek | OS: Windows 10 Pro 64bit

RETRO PC: CPU: AMD Athlon 64 2800+ | Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-K8VM800M | RAM: 2Gb DDR 800 | GPU: ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 128Mb | Case: Tacens Anima AC4500 | Storage: IDE WD Blue 80Gb + IDE DVD-RW drive + floppy drive | Sound: Terratec 128i ESS Solo-1 PCI | OS: Windows 98 SE + Windows XP SP3 + Linux Bionic Pup 32
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Epilogue: I managed to get a used 4Gb XFX RX580 GTS for 86€.
Considering It takes at least double that price to buy a new one, I think I got a pretty good deal! What do you think?

  

MAIN PC: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G | Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming | RAM: 16Gb DDR4 Patriot Viper 4 3200 | GPU: XFX RX580 4Gb GTS | Case: Sharkoon S25-W | Storage: M.2 NVME Adata Gammix S10 128Gb + SATA SSD WD Blue 1Tb | ODD: LG GH24NSD1 | PSU: Seasonic Core GM-500 | Display: AOC I2490PXQU | Cooler: Wraith Stealth | Keyboard: Logitech K120 | Mouse: Logitech B100 | Sound: the usual integrated Realtek | OS: Windows 10 Pro 64bit

RETRO PC: CPU: AMD Athlon 64 2800+ | Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-K8VM800M | RAM: 2Gb DDR 800 | GPU: ATi Radeon 9600 Pro 128Mb | Case: Tacens Anima AC4500 | Storage: IDE WD Blue 80Gb + IDE DVD-RW drive + floppy drive | Sound: Terratec 128i ESS Solo-1 PCI | OS: Windows 98 SE + Windows XP SP3 + Linux Bionic Pup 32
HTPC: CPU: AMD Athlon 3000G | Motherboard: AsRock B450M-HDV R4.0 | RAM: 16Gb DDR4 G.Skill Aegis 3200 | Case: Aerocool CS-101 | Storage: SATA SSD Silicon Power A55 256Gb | ODD: LG blu-ray WH14NS40 | OS: Windows 10 Pro 64bit

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That CPU can drive a GTX1070 / 1660Super/Ti setup quite well (Ultraspec is where I aim for though, the PC/GPU setup is good enough,..ensuring GPU usages are highest, at High settings you could see dropped GPU usages in some titles like Assassins Creed Heavy CPU hitters and such open world titles) but the FPS metrics will still be stronger than the other GPU's here.


2400G vs say a i7 4790 (nonK, which I have at home as a testbench) and I've played with those systems and GTX1070's for months using many games to test and it's quite a brilliant combo. I'd say 90% of games are brilliant, the more recent examples of games still easily get 60fps, but problematic chasing 120fps from this CPU in heavy hitters.

Those CPU heavy games suffer a bit, but the FPS is STILL Up there even if a little bottlenecked.
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