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If only I could restore back to an earlier point in life ?‍♀️


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I like to point out that jake has a older ifixit kit


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1 hour ago, Velcade said:

14TB Pros ?

 

-snip-

 

Interesting that they're really only 12.73TB.  Round up to the nearest even whole number I suppose. 

Could be formatting? 1TB drives are 900something GB formatted, not exactly 1000. 2TB drives are 1700-1800GB formatted (or 1900GB? I just looked at my drives last night lmao, I should know this), not 2000GB. Not surprising if it's the same for larger drives. 


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Jake types in his user/pw on a external system to give linus access to his share - please do not, the other person could catch your credentials.

Create a seperate share & user for the person, who want to backup, also in the share config you can create quotas so your mate don't fill your nas full with his crap.

I upload by "external" Backup to work, where I have racked my own server (verry old system).

But at some friends, I've a Rasip with a usb hdd that openes a reverse SSH tunnel to me (it also could be a cheap vm) and mapps the ssh port there.

Hyper Backup is able to do packupo over ssh, just use "rsync" as backup type. May you have to edit the parth to get it working, in my case I mount the hdd to "/home/$USER/backup". Even on some Webdav services that dont run out of the box just type in "/home" then you can run your backup.

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Can you setup a gitlab server and WordPress cms on a synology NAS? 

Massive use case a front end freelance web developer. 

And what's it like developing straight off the NAS say for UE4 game dev. Another use case here. 

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4 hours ago, Enderman said:

If only I could restore back to an earlier point in life ?‍♀️

then at what point would you go back to, and would the storage/knowledge be deleted or retained?

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2 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Could be formatting? 1TB drives are 900something GB formatted, not exactly 1000. 2TB drives are 1700-1800GB formatted (or 1900GB? I just looked at my drives last night lmao, I should know this), not 2000GB. Not surprising if it's the same for larger drives. 

 

3 hours ago, Velcade said:

14TB Pros ?

 

 

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Interesting that they're really only 12.73TB.  Round up to the nearest even whole number I suppose. 


Nope. I’m surprised this isn’t more widely known, especially as storage drives start to get bigger and the differences more noticeable.


The drive IS 14 terabytes in size.

Windows doesn’t actually show data size in terabytes, it shows it in tebibytes.

 

It has nothing to do with formatting, 14 terabytes is equal to 12.73tebibytes.


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A homemade NAS is probably half the price compared to Synology stuff.


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20 minutes ago, Dredgy said:

 


Nope. I’m surprised this isn’t more widely known, especially as storage drives start to get bigger and the differences more noticeable.


The drive IS 14 terabytes in size.

Windows doesn’t actually show data size in terabytes, it shows it in tebibytes.

 

It has nothing to do with formatting, 14 terabytes is equal to 12.73tebibytes.


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is this related to the "1kb = 1000 bytes vs 1kB = 1024 bytes" issue? (base 10 vs base 2 i guess)

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a video about something sponsored by the brand that makes the product featured in the video should be titled as a showcase

 

just so i don't click on it and give you a view you don't deserve. if i wanted 5 min or longer of advertising i would watch tv. this is youtube. 


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5 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Could be formatting? 1TB drives are 900something GB formatted, not exactly 1000. 2TB drives are 1700-1800GB formatted (or 1900GB? I just looked at my drives last night lmao, I should know this), not 2000GB. Not surprising if it's the same for larger drives. 

 

7 hours ago, Velcade said:

14TB Pros ?

 

 

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Interesting that they're really only 12.73TB.  Round up to the nearest even whole number I suppose. 

Most software calculates storage differently than drive manufacturers.

 

Drive manufacturers calculate and advertise storage in multiples of 1000.

Software usually does multiples of 1024, but too often they incorrectly use KB, MB, GB, and TB, when they should be using KiB, MiB, GiB, and TiB.


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7 hours ago, zENjA said:

Jake types in his user/pw on a external system to give linus access to his share - please do not, the other person could catch your credentials.

Create a seperate share & user for the person, who want to backup, also in the share config you can create quotas so your mate don't fill your nas full with his crap.

I upload by "external" Backup to work, where I have racked my own server (verry old system).

THIS. I don't understand how using Synology's Quick Connect feature would give Jake access to Linus's files... I own a DS918+ and that's not how this works at all. Quick Connect is just Synology's method of connecting to your NAS using (what I believe is) a reverse proxy, so that you can still connect if your router's Port Forwarding or UPnP shits the bed. It does not automagically grant access to files on the NAS.

 

What they should have done was indeed created separate users on each others' NAS' with their permissions set to only allow access to folders they require. A good way to organize this is to create a share just for backups (for example, a "_backup" share), then create user folders inside said share for each user who needs to backup. Once these folders are created, you just assign access rights for each folder to the corresponding user so they can only access it, and you're good to go.

5 hours ago, Aqeel Hashim said:

Can you setup a gitlab server and WordPress cms on a synology NAS? 

Massive use case a front end freelance web developer. 

And what's it like developing straight off the NAS say for UE4 game dev. Another use case here. 

Yes, you absolutely can run a web server or other form of Linux based server from a Synology - in fact, Synology OS is just a customized flavor of Unix/Linux with a ton of heavily skinned & customized interfaces to reduce the amount of manual configuration one otherwise would have to do. There's also a plethora of 3rd party repositories, allowing you to install many apps Synology doesn't support right from the same package manager.

https://synocommunity.com/packages

https://search.synopackage.com/sources


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5 hours ago, scotartt said:

 

is this related to the "1kb = 1000 bytes vs 1kB = 1024 bytes" issue? (base 10 vs base 2 i guess)

 

Yes, though you’re using the wrong abbreviations ? Is painfully confusing though.

 

kB = kilobyte = 1000 bytes (this is what drive manufacturers use) Metric

KiB = kibibyte = 1024 bytes (this what Windows usually uses, though it uses the incorrect abbreviation)

Both of the above are a measurement of how many bytes (1 byte = 8 bits).

 

kb = kilobit = 1000bits = 125 bytes.

This is usually how internet speed is measured.

 

In the old days, when things were still measured in kilobytes or megabytes, it didn’t really matter that there was a difference, as visually, 1000 is equal to 1024.

 

As capacities grow, this will become a bigger problem, though still relatively minor. Already people have accused companies of misrepresenting the size of hard drives.

 

As we saw above, 14 terabytes = 12.73 tebibytes.

when you get bigger, 14 petabytes = 12.43 pebibytes

and even bigger, 14 exabytes = just 12.14 exbibytes.

 

Though we are many decades away from having 14 exabyte hard drives, a more reasonable example might be found at say 100 terabytes. If someone were to buy a 100TB hard drive and windows showed it as 90TB (when it is in fact 90TiB), I don’t think it’s unreasonable for a consumer to feel short changed.

 

The easiest solution would be for Windows to show everything using the metric standard that everyone’s familiar with, as it would be relatively consequence free.

 

 

 

 

 

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Does Unraid have a similar or equivalent mutual backup feature? Or could you do this cross-platform between Synology/Unraid? I'm looking to build my own storage server next year and I'd rather go with Unraid for the horsepower and repair purposes, but this mutual backup feature would save me a fortune. 


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You're more likely to die of old age than lose data in a house fire. Stop feeding people propaganda.

 

Any important data should be backed up off site however, but the amount of data to be protected (like photos) should fall in the free areas of services or cheap cloud services. Or better yet

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Those Synology-boxes are quite appealing, I've been eyeing their stuff for several years now. That said, they are WAY too expensive; you can put together something three times as more capable for one-third the cost if you're willing to just use a standard PC for the task. I just can't afford to buy those at the prices Synology is asking for them.


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sure, let me get right on off-site backup for my 5TB worth of data

 

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Even if i decided to only backup 1TB worth of my most important data...that's 156 DAYS of uploading. which would choke out my entire internet to the point it would be unusable for anything else


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1 hour ago, Arika S said:

sure, let me get right on off-site backup for my 5TB worth of data

 

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Even if i decided to only backup 1TB worth of my most important data...that's 156 DAYS of uploading. which would choke out my entire internet to the point it would be unusable for anything else

That's a level of Ouch that I haven't seen since the late days of Dial-Up/ early days of aDSL. I pity your poor Aussie soul. ?


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26 minutes ago, Semper said:

I pity your poor Aussie soul.

Could always be worse: they could be a redhead as well as a dirty bogan!


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