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Downclock 3600Mhz DDR 4 for b450

Hi. I have a spare pair of Corsair vengeance lpx 3600mhz ddr4 2x8gb sticks, and was thinking of upgrading my editing pc using these.

Issue is I'm going from an i7 4790k to a ryzen 7 2700 and an asrock b450 itx board, or maybe the msi itx equivalent.

Is it possible to manually downclock the ram to 3200mhz, manually set better latency and timings, so that it will run within spec of the b450 boards? 3200mhz is the sweet spot for those boards apparently. 

 

 

 

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Yes.

I downclocked my DDR4 3466 to 3200 manually and set the CL from 16 to 15.

 

but why didnt you buy the fitting RAM from the beginning?

My Gaming PC:
Inno3D iChill Black - RTX 4080 - +500 Memory, undervolted Core, 2xCorsair QX120 (push) + 2xInno3D 120mm (pull)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - NZXT x72
G.SKILL Trident Z @6000MHz CL30 - 2x16GB
Asus Strix X670E-E Gaming

1x500GB Samsung 960 Pro (Windows 11)

1x2TB Kingston KC3000 (Games)

1x1TB WD Blue SN550 (Programs)

1x1TB Samsung 870 EVO (Programs)
Corsair RM-850X

Lian Li O11 Vision
ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27AQDM (240hz OLED), MSI Optix MAG274QRFDE-QD, BenQ ZOWIE XL2720

Logitech G Pro Wireless Superlight
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Audeze LCD2-C + FiiO K3

Klipsch RP600-M + Klipsch R-120 SW

 

My Notebook:

MacBook Pro 16 M1 - 16GB

 

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  • i7 8700k delidded undervolted, Gigabyte Z390 UD, 4x16GB 3200MHz, 1x 512GB SSD (Boot), 1x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe (Ceph-OSD), 2,5G NIC
  • i5 4670, 3x4GB + 1x8GB 1600MHz, 1x 512GB SSD (Boot), 1x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe (Ceph-OSD), 2,5G NIC

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Yeah i thought so but always best to seek a definitive answer. Thanks.

Its spare due to upgrading my Ryzen 3000 gaming pc with the g.skill ripjaws v memory, which was purchased for half the price compared to when i originally built the pc. Saw the black Friday bargain and upgraded?

 

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Yes you could, even without manually adjusting timings if you wish so. Just force a lower frequency with DOCP enabled

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Ricco123 said:

Yeah i thought so but always best to seek a definitive answer. Thanks.

Its spare due to upgrading my Ryzen 3000 gaming pc with the g.skill ripjaws v memory, which was purchased for half the price compared to when i originally built the pc. Saw the black Friday bargain and upgraded?

 

Ah, that makes sense.

 

Good luck and have fun with your build.

My Gaming PC:
Inno3D iChill Black - RTX 4080 - +500 Memory, undervolted Core, 2xCorsair QX120 (push) + 2xInno3D 120mm (pull)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - NZXT x72
G.SKILL Trident Z @6000MHz CL30 - 2x16GB
Asus Strix X670E-E Gaming

1x500GB Samsung 960 Pro (Windows 11)

1x2TB Kingston KC3000 (Games)

1x1TB WD Blue SN550 (Programs)

1x1TB Samsung 870 EVO (Programs)
Corsair RM-850X

Lian Li O11 Vision
ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27AQDM (240hz OLED), MSI Optix MAG274QRFDE-QD, BenQ ZOWIE XL2720

Logitech G Pro Wireless Superlight
Wooting 60HE

Audeze LCD2-C + FiiO K3

Klipsch RP600-M + Klipsch R-120 SW

 

My Notebook:

MacBook Pro 16 M1 - 16GB

 

Proxmox-Cluster:

  • Ryzen 9 3950X, Asus Strix X570E F-Gaming, 2x32GB3200MHz ECC, 2x 512GB NVMe ZFS-Mirror (Boot + Testing-VMs), 2x14TB ZFS-Mirror + 1x3TB (TrueNAS-VM), 1x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe (Ceph-OSD), 10G NIC
  • i7 8700k delidded undervolted, Gigabyte Z390 UD, 4x16GB 3200MHz, 1x 512GB SSD (Boot), 1x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe (Ceph-OSD), 2,5G NIC
  • i5 4670, 3x4GB + 1x8GB 1600MHz, 1x 512GB SSD (Boot), 1x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe (Ceph-OSD), 2,5G NIC

Proxmox-Backup-Server:

  • i5 4670, 4x4GB 1600MHz, 2x2TB ZFS-Mirror, 2,5G NIC
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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Yes you could, even without manually adjusting timings if you wish so. Just force a lower frequency with DOCP enabled

Yeah sounds good.

Thanks.

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6 minutes ago, Ricco123 said:

Yeah sounds good.

Thanks.

While you can downclock from XMP setting, you maybe just able to run it straight at its XMP settings to be honest. If the XMP is faster than 3200, then it won't effect anything badly (particularly if you aren't going to change other timings), it's just runs in to the law of diminishing returns over 3200 apparently. I have 2*8 of GSkill Trident Z Neo in my B450 board with a 2700X, and it has zero trouble running at XMP of 3600 CL16 out of the box.

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So these sticks now come clocked at the advertised speeds right out of the box, as in, no need to mess with the xmp etc ?

 

I was under the impression all of them have to be manually set to the desired config.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, strat guy said:

So these sticks now come clocked at the advertised speeds right out of the box, as in, no need to mess with the xmp etc ?

 

I was under the impression all of them have to be manually set to the desired config.

 

 

You still have to enable them to run at XMP in the bios, and some will/some won't, particularly on Ryzen 1st & 2nd gen. The Trident Z Neo I have worked out of the box, once XMP was enabled in bios at 3600 CL16 on a 2700X. Sure, I might eventually tweak the timings etc down to CL15, maybe 14 if possible and some of the other timings, but tbh, it's running stable rock solid on the XMP profile and isn't doing anything super latency dependent so I'm not bothered at the min.

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4 hours ago, IntMD said:

While you can downclock from XMP setting, you maybe just able to run it straight at its XMP settings to be honest. If the XMP is faster than 3200, then it won't effect anything badly (particularly if you aren't going to change other timings), it's just runs in to the law of diminishing returns over 3200 apparently. I have 2*8 of GSkill Trident Z Neo in my B450 board with a 2700X, and it has zero trouble running at XMP of 3600 CL16 out of the box.

Well that good to know and hopefully i can just plug n play. If not then at least other options are possible. 

I shall report back once up and running.

Cheers

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