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Ryzen upgrade

T_Hastings

So I built my mini-ITX Steam Machine back in 2019. The budget was tight, so I went with an i3-6100 with a plan to upgrade to an i7 later. However, Ryzen seems to be a reasonable option these days. I don't plan to do any overclocking whatsoever, so I'd buy an A320 and a 2700X with some 2x8 GB 3200 MHz RAM. The rest would stay the same.* If all goes well, the final build would look like this:

 

 

What do you guys think? Even though I'm happy with the concept, it would be good to know if I'm planning to shoot myself in the foot. :D

 

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* The PSU would be upgraded with the GPU later down the line.

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6 minutes ago, T_Hastings said:

 

Hello,

 

Even though you don't plan to overclock, A320 motherboard are really poor in terms of quality or specs.

 

A 32Gb SDD won't be enough too, 128Gb would be the minimum and even that is really low.

 

 

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Thanks for the input! Exactly the thing I was wondering about regarding the A320. I wouldn't expect problems from a reputable brand like Asus, but it would still be a risk?

 

The SSD is intentionally small. I run GNU+Linux, and the root directory doesn't take more than 15 GB, so for that purpose it's still plenty. Does not help with RoTR load times though, that's true. :D

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Do you do stuff that needs 8 cores? For gaming and light workloads you might be better off with a Ryzen 5 3600.

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Good ssd.better brand psu better gpu. bettee Best ram for ryzen.

 

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

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9 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

Do you do stuff that needs 8 cores? For gaming and light workloads you might be better off with a Ryzen 5 3600.

 

These days not really, that's true. The occasional photo editing isn't much. Actually, I'd even turn off SMT to maximize per core performance. Price is the limitation now, the additional $35 wouldn't really translate to a big change in performance. In my region (EU) the 2600X and 2700X are priced very close on the other hand.

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12 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

Good ssd.better brand psu better gpu. bettee Best ram for ryzen.

 

 

I just mentioned the parts I already have, not shopping for GPU, PSU, storage this time. Thanks anyway, will keep in mind!

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1 hour ago, T_Hastings said:

Thanks for the input! Exactly the thing I was wondering about regarding the A320. I wouldn't expect problems from a reputable brand like Asus, but it would still be a risk?

 

The SSD is intentionally small. I run GNU+Linux, and the root directory doesn't take more than 15 GB, so for that purpose it's still plenty. Does not help with RoTR load times though, that's true. :D

Well then I suppose 32Gb is enough, still feel very low :o 

 

1 minute ago, T_Hastings said:

These days not really, that's true. The occasional photo editing isn't much. Actually, I'd even turn off SMT to maximize per core performance. Price is the limitation now, the additional $35 wouldn't really translate to a big change in performance. In my region (EU) the 2600X and 2700X are priced very close on the other hand.

The 3600 will be better then if you game more than anything else.

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1 minute ago, Plouffe said:

Well then I suppose 32Gb is enough, still feel very low :o 

 

The 3600 will be better then if you game more than anything else.

Yes, it's an uncommon use case for an SSD :)

 

This is a compelling argument for the 3600... It'd be more or less the same for future-proofing as well, right? I mean, multi-threaded games won't just explode, requiring 6+ cores in the coming, say, 5 years?

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2 minutes ago, T_Hastings said:

This is a compelling argument for the 3600... It'd be more or less the same for future-proofing as well, right? I mean, multi-threaded games won't just explode, requiring 6+ cores in the coming, say, 5 years?

Yeah 6 cores is not yet the minimum requirement for AAA games and with HT you are good for the next 5 years.

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3 minutes ago, T_Hastings said:

I mean, multi-threaded games won't just explode, requiring 6+ cores in the coming, say, 5 years?

That's the thing, we don't know. There's a possibility of it happening, especially if you look at Vulkan and the like.

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25 minutes ago, Plouffe said:

Yeah 6 cores is not yet the minimum requirement for AAA games and with HT you are good for the next 5 years.

 

24 minutes ago, Elisis said:

That's the thing, we don't know. There's a possibility of it happening, especially if you look at Vulkan and the like.

 

Okay, so I did a bit deeper research on the 3600... I must agree with Plouffe, because even in Vulkan titles, where the 2700X came out on top in average framerates, the lows were still higher on the 3600. Didn't expect that. I'll try to stretch the budget so the 3600 fits. The cheaper RAM suggested by SavageNeo will help with that!

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4 minutes ago, T_Hastings said:

 

Yup, use PCP with your currency and note which one is already purchased with the budget you want so we can help with more accuracy :) 

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