£600 Build, Looking for thoughts

[Rupe]

Hi Guys!

My brother is finally looking to upgrade his relic of an i7 920, and his GTX 760. Last night me and him had a look at PCPartPicker and this is what we came to. He initially said he didn't want to go above £600 but was fine with this £613 build. He doesn't need Storage or a PSU(Although I did advise him he might want to upgrade his 10 year PSU). Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mpmmDx 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£108.86 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£79.96 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£79.91 @ More Computers) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB MECH OC Video Card  (£299.80 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master MB600L ODD ATX Mid Tower Case  (£44.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £613.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-05 09:42 GMT+0000

[SavageNeo]

12 minutes ago, Rupe said:

Hi Guys!

My brother is finally looking to upgrade his relic of an i7 920, and his GTX 760. Last night me and him had a look at PCPartPicker and this is what we came to. He initially said he didn't want to go above £600 but was fine with this £613 build. He doesn't need Storage or a PSU(Although I did advise him he might want to upgrade his 10 year PSU). Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mpmmDx 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£108.86 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£79.96 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£79.91 @ More Computers) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB MECH OC Video Card  (£299.80 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master MB600L ODD ATX Mid Tower Case  (£44.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £613.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-05 09:42 GMT+0000

Thats econd gen ryzen can be unstable with that ram. Get ram speed of 3200mhz and dear god with that money get better model of 5700.

[Juular]

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I did advise him he might want to upgrade his 10 year PSU

Unless that was some very expensive stuff maybe some Platinum Corsair PSU he doesn't want to replace it, he needs to replace it. That's a matter of frying his new PC or not.

 

[Juular]

Here's my changes :

 

- Cheaper motherboard (and it's actually better in some ways).

- Cheaper RAM and it might actually work with XMP profile in contrast with 3600MHz one.

- Cheaper GPU to make a room for a new PSU, still very good for 1080p gaming.

- mATX case to match the motherboard, and it has better airflow.

- Very good PSU.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£108.86 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£69.56 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£54.30 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB Twin Fan Video Card  (£214.00 @ Box Limited)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR400 (w/ODD) MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£59.99 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Corsair Vengeance 650 W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£64.95 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £571.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-05 10:01 GMT+0000

[Rupe]

1 minute ago, Juular said:

Unless that was some very expensive stuff maybe some Platinum Corsair PSU he doesn't want to replace it, he needs to replace it. That's a matter of frying his new PC or not.

I can't remember the exact model but it was high end at the time he went all out on the PC in general. Even had a custom loop. The psu was overkill 1000w rated. I will try and get this information from him as to the model although knowing him (Oh,and I do) he will be stubborn on the issue

4 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

Thats econd gen ryzen can be unstable with that ram. Get ram speed of 3200mhz and dear god with that money get better model of 5700.

I will swap out the RAM. Any RAM in particular or just not the LPX?

At the same price the XFX DD Ultra is available. Would you say this is a better buy? What's your concerns with the MSI card? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/tt7p99/xfx-radeon-rx-5700-8-gb-dd-ultra-video-card-rx-57xl8lbd6. 

[SavageNeo]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	£108.86 @ CCL Computers
Motherboard	ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£57.88 @ More Computers
Memory	Team T-FORCE VULCAN TUF Gaming Allian 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	£59.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Video Card	PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 8 GB RED DRAGON Video Card	£329.98 @ Amazon UK
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox 5 ATX Mid Tower Case	£42.25 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	Corsair Vengeance 650 W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£64.95 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£663.91
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-05 10:08 GMT+0000

-cheapermobo

-new psu

little cheapper pc case

Thats rx 5700 is decent and will not heat up as much as the msi one.

Switched to cheaper ram.

 

[Juular]

2 minutes ago, Rupe said:

I can't remember the exact model but it was high end at the time he went all out on the PC in general. Even had a custom loop. The psu was overkill 1000w rated. I will try and get this information from him as to the model although knowing him (Oh,and I do) he will be stubborn on the issue

Yeah, if it was high-end chances are it will still do but it depends, get an exact model. Either way it might have started to show signs of aging, it ain't gonna be good forever, 10 years is a lot.

[Rupe]

@Juular Thanks for the suggestion. I will talk to him about going for a smaller build. I have switched out the RAM on the build for the Patriot Viper 4

@SavageNeo Also thanks for the suggestion again I will talk to him about going Micro ATX and changing the case

 

I will try and persuade him to get a new PSU, I just sent him a message asking what model of PSU he has. 

[Rupe]

16 minutes ago, Juular said:

Yeah, if it was high-end chances are it will still do but it depends, get an exact model. Either way it might have started to show signs of aging, it ain't gonna be good forever, 10 years is a lot.

Ok not as high end as I expected the Antec Truepower Quattro 1000w. I guess the strong recommendation would be to get a new one?

[Juular]

2 minutes ago, Rupe said:

Ok not as high end as I expected the Antec Truepower Quattro 1000w. I guess the strong recommendation would be to get a new one?

I'd cautiously say that it's roughly as good as 50$ PSUs these days (disregarding 1000W power rating) which you don't want to power this GPU with. But i'd wait @LienusLateTips @LukeSavenije word on this.

[Rupe]

8 minutes ago, Juular said:

I'd cautiously say that it's roughly as good as 50$ PSUs these days (disregarding 1000W power rating) which you don't want to power this GPU with. But i'd wait @LienusLateTips @LukeSavenije word on this.

Well that doesn't seem to bad. Calling in the Big Cheeses in the PSU LTT world. Nice :). Spos the question would be, can degradation in components over time cause a potential risk to computer hardware? My intuition would tell me that safety features built into the PSU would stop it working before harm came to the components

[Juular]

25 minutes ago, Rupe said:

Well that doesn't seem to bad. Calling in the Big Cheeses in the PSU LTT world. Nice :). Spos the question would be, can degradation in components over time cause a potential risk to computer hardware? My intuition would tell me that safety features built into the PSU would stop it working before harm came to the components

Thing is being 10+ yo design it most likely doesn't have that much of protection features as in even relatively budget modern PSU.

[Rupe]

1 minute ago, Juular said:

Thing is being 10+ yo design it most likely doesn't have that much of protection features as in even relatively budget modern PSU.

That's true, but still doesn't mean it's necessarily unsafe to use. That's what I'm trying to determine