2070 or RX 5700 XT?

[Ivar Eriksson]

Hi, I'm building my own PC for the first time and bought all of my gear this black friday/cyber monday. I ended up buying two GPUs because I wasn't sure which one I wanted and figured I could hand one of them back anyway. Since I am not very experienced I am not sure which one I want to keep though. So I figured I might ask someone more competent, you guys! Here is the build:

Component	Choice	Additional Details
Motherboard	ASUS ROG STRIX B450-E GAMING	B450, WiFi, Bluetooth 5.0,
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 36MB	16 Ts @ 3.6 (4.4) GHz, 65 W
GPU 1	ASUS GeForce RTX 2070 8GB DUAL OC EVO	3*DP, 1*HDMI, 1*USB-C (Virtuallink)
GPU 2	ASUS Radeon RX 5700 XT ROG Strix OC	3*DP, 1*HDMI
RAM	Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO DDR4	16 GB @ 3000 MHz, CL15
CPU Cooling	Wraith Prism	Included
Case Cooling	LL120 RGB 120mm Dual Light Loop RGB LED PWM Fan	3 Fan Pack with Lighting Node PRO
Storage	Corsair Force Series MP510 960GB M.2 SSD	960 GB @ 3480/3000MB/s R/W
PSU	Corsair SF600 600W 80+ Platinum	600W, 80+ Platinum, Modular
Case	Corsair Carbide 175R RGB Black	1 fan, tempered glass
Led Strip 1	ASUS ROG Addressable LED Strip 60cm
Led Strip 2	Corsair RGB LED Lighting PRO Expansion Kit
OS	Windows 10 Home English 64-Bit OEM
Screen	Samsung 32" U32R590 VA Curved (1500R) UHD	4K 60 Hz Curved

So, with the PC I will be coding (doing data science work i.e. training neural networks, doing topological data analysis etc.), CAD work for 3D printing (I'm no expert but on occasion I download a file with very many vertices) and of course gaming. Currently I am keen on DOOM, Forza Horizon 4, Hitman, Halo, Wolfenstein (the entire series), Assassin's Creed (the entire series again) , Fallout, Witcher 3, Cyberpunk 2077 (when it arrives) and sometimes older titles like Age of Mythology. As you can tell mostly local singleplayer stuff. I have good eyesight but shit reflexes and am bad at games in general. Therefor I opted for a 4K panel at 60 HZ rather than a high refresh rate monitor as I am more interested in a nice visual experience than becoming the best in the world. I have this unrealistic hope of being able to play some games in 4K.

 

So my question to you then is if I can get the RTX 2070 for ~$499  and the RX 5700 XT for ~$489 which one should I take? I have been looking around a lot and people are saying the AMD card has a really good cooler but I am getting no hits on this specific 2070 skew.

 

Many Thanks!

 

PS. If you don't think I am being awfully silly and if you have any opinions at all maybe you could also help me decide between the two listed LED-strips.

[NotABigGamer]

There is not much of a difference between performance. I would go 5700xt. The 3 fan gives it an advantage with cooling. It might be louder.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2070-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/4029vs4

[Jurrunio]

Does PCPP prices apply? There are a lot of Asus parts though which are not always price competitive. Also why the SFX PSU?

[Ivar Eriksson]

I've already bought all of these parts. If you want to know the prices at which I bought them I could add them. A lot of the things I bought because I got a good deal on them. The SFX power supply I bought because I got it for a good price and should be enough for my build.

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, Ivar Eriksson said:

I've already bought all of these parts. If you want to know the prices at which I bought them I could add them. A lot of the things I bought because I got a good deal on them. The SFX power supply I bought because I got it for a good price and should be enough for my build.

RTX cards fare better with their tensor cores and stuff for the workload you're throwing at it.

[Ivar Eriksson]

20 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

RTX cards fare better with their tensor cores and stuff for the workload you're throwing at it.

Which workloads in particular are you thinking of then? I mentioned quite a few. 

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, Ivar Eriksson said:

Which workloads in particular are you thinking of then? I mentioned quite a few. 

it's software dependent, but in general they are more often Nvidia biased and since you're mentioning their names, I take the general direction.

[Skipple]

34 minutes ago, Ivar Eriksson said:

The SFX power supply I bought because I got it for a good price and should be enough for my build.

I'm so confused. That's a $140 PSU.

 

Anyway to answer your original question: 2070 < RX 5700 XT

That said, I have been having nothing but issues personally with my card and plan on returning it for a 2070S

[Ivar Eriksson]

Just now, Skipple said:

I'm so confused. That's a $140 PSU.

 

Anyway to answer your original question: 2070 < RX 5700 XT

That said, I have been having nothing but issues personally with my card and plan on returning it for a 2070S

Yeah but I got it for $100, thought that was a pretty good deal. Anyway, what kind of problems have you been having and what card do you have exactly? 

[claudinho7]

If you wanna go nvidia then you should chose a 2070 super over the 5700xt. I got the Nitro+ 5700xt on black friday for 400£ now its 410 still a good price for what used to be 450 a month ago. 2070 i feel its under 5700xt in many tasks and games except the nvidia orientated one. And the 5700xt only gets better in time from software updates.

[trevb0t]

2070 < 2060 Super (in value) < 5700 XT 

2070 Super > 5700 XT

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So my question to you then is if I can get the RTX 2070 for ~$499  and the RX 5700 XT for ~$489 which one should I take? I have been looking around a lot and people are saying the AMD card has a really good cooler but I am getting no hits on this specific 2070 skew.

If it makes your decision easier, the Nitro+ is the 5700 XT model you should be looking at. It's currently $429. Not $489. 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WGLwrH/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-nitro-video-card-11293-03-40g

 

For $499 I HOPE you're referring to a 2070 Super, and not the plain 2070. (Because if you're looking at a 2070 for 500, the question should become 2060 Super vs 5700 XT. It's barely a performance hit from the original 2070, and if RTX is beneficial in software use, you'll see the same benefits for like $120 less.)

[Ivar Eriksson]

7 hours ago, trevb0t said:

For $499 I HOPE you're referring to a 2070 Super, and not the plain 2070. (Because if you're looking at a 2070 for 500, the question should become 2060 Super vs 5700 XT. It's barely a performance hit from the original 2070, and if RTX is beneficial in software use, you'll see the same benefits for like $120 less.)

So first of all I'm in Sweden so the market is a bit different for me unfortunately. I wish I was talking about a super but this is a vanilla 2070. Also I should have been a bit more precise when translating from SEK to USD so here are the real prices of the cards I've bought and some others for reference. 

 

AMD

• The one I've bought already I got for $516 (now $588) and is an ASUS Radeon RX 5700 XT ROG Strix OC.
• The cheapest RX 5700 XT on the market at the moment is an MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT Mech OC HDMI 3xDP 8GB and can be had for $481.
• The Nitro+ trevb0t suggested is priced at $574.

NVIDIA

• The one I bought already I payed $526 for (now $631) and is a non-super card. More specifically it is an ASUS GeForce RTX 2070 8GB DUAL OC EVO. 
• The least expensive 2060 Super I can find is the Galax/KFA2 GeForce RTX 2060 Super EX (1-Click OC) HDMI 2xDP 8GB and it is priced at $441.
• The cheapest 2070 on market right now is a Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Windforce 2X HDMI 3xDP 8GB and is priced at $516.
• The least expensive 2070 Super is a Galax/KFA2 GeForce RTX 2070 Super EX Gamer Black HDMI 3xDP 8GB and costs $609.

So as you can see prices in Sweden are a bit crazy. Since I didn't opt for the absolutely cheapest I could find when I bought the cards I think I got decent deals . As I said earlier reviewers are saying the the 5700 XT card I got is one of the best ones available. I'm not getting any info on the 2070 though so I am unsure there. From what you guys and gals are saying it seems like I should keep keep the 5700 XT. 

[trevb0t]

7 hours ago, Ivar Eriksson said:

So first of all I'm in Sweden so the market is a bit different for me unfortunately. I wish I was talking about a super but this is a vanilla 2070. Also I should have been a bit more precise when translating from SEK to USD so here are the real prices of the cards I've bought and some others for reference. 

 

AMD

• The one I've bought already I got for $516 (now $588) and is an ASUS Radeon RX 5700 XT ROG Strix OC.
• The cheapest RX 5700 XT on the market at the moment is an MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT Mech OC HDMI 3xDP 8GB and can be had for $481.
• The Nitro+ trevb0t suggested is priced at $574.

NVIDIA

• The one I bought already I payed $526 for (now $631) and is a non-super card. More specifically it is an ASUS GeForce RTX 2070 8GB DUAL OC EVO. 
• The least expensive 2060 Super I can find is the Galax/KFA2 GeForce RTX 2060 Super EX (1-Click OC) HDMI 2xDP 8GB and it is priced at $441.
• The cheapest 2070 on market right now is a Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Windforce 2X HDMI 3xDP 8GB and is priced at $516.
• The least expensive 2070 Super is a Galax/KFA2 GeForce RTX 2070 Super EX Gamer Black HDMI 3xDP 8GB and costs $609.

So as you can see prices in Sweden are a bit crazy. Since I didn't opt for the absolutely cheapest I could find when I bought the cards I think I got decent deals . As I said earlier reviewers are saying the the 5700 XT card I got is one of the best ones available. I'm not getting any info on the 2070 though so I am unsure there. From what you guys and gals are saying it seems like I should keep keep the 5700 XT. 

Ah, fair enough. At those prices, I'd grab the 5700 XT. (Again unless your workload software will somehow be boosted significantly by the tensors on RTX.)

 

I haven't seen review specific to the ROG cooler on Navi yet, but I know that cooler was so ineffective it was throttling on Vega 56/64 units. HOPEFULLY they have fixed whatever the issue was there. 

Generally speaking the ROG series coolers are pretty damn good.