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ryzen 7 2700x with 2070 super?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

so im building my first pc ever and have pretty much evverything figured out. i'm almost 100 percent decided on the 2070 super for a gpu but im worried that my ryzen 7 2700x will bottleneck it. i already bought the cpu, not the gpu, but if it makes a big impact i'll swithc out my cpu. Dont really have anyone i know to ask so any help would really be apreciated guys, cant wait to put the thing together. 

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it depends on the games you want to play but you should be fine. You could also sell your cpu and just get a r7 3700x if the 2700x isn't enough.
Should work on the same board with just a bios update

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Hello @samuelsbald and Welcome to the Linus Tech Tips Forum.

 

First of all, are you going to be playing on a 144Hz monitor? Your CPU is indeed a monster, however some game indeed it might have a little bottleneck in some games. But remember this. Bottleneck is everywhere, if there wasn't any, your framerate would be infinite.

The main question is, will the "bottleneck" bother you?

One thing is a bottleneck when you're playing with 60 fps and then it drops below 40 fps. But if you're worried for example in bottleneck because your CPU canno't push 144Hz insome game but close. Don't even bpther.


"Once there was an explosion, a bang that gave birth to time and space. Once there was an explosion, a bang that set a planet spinning in that space. Once there was an explosion, a bang that gave rise to life as we know it... And then came the next explosion. An explosion that will be our last"

 

"... To see the world in a grain of sand. Heaven in a wild flower

Hold infinite in the palm of your hand.  And eternity in an hour ..."

 

PC: 1

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 4.3GHz 1.3875v Motherboard: AsRock X470 Taichi (BIOS: Agesa 1.0.0.3 ABB) RAM: 4x8GB(32) 3200MHzCL16 Hyper X GPU: GTX 980 Ti Waterforce Xtreme Core Clock: 1595MHz Memory Clock: 8000MHz Storage: SAMSUNG EVO 860 2TB(OS) / SAMSUNG EVO 860 1TB(Backup) Cooler: NZXT Hydro X72 360mm Case: NZXT Phantom 820 PSU: Corsair TX-750w Display Monitor: Monitor AOC AG251FG 240Hz G-Sync 1080p Headset: Headset LogiTech G633 OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (Version: 1909 / OS Build: )

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depends on high you want the frame rate to go. I doubt you'll see any difference with a better CPU below 80fps though


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

thanks for all the fast answers

yeah i'm planning on buying a 144hz monitor, and as for the fps i want as much as possible

thanks for the warm welcome guys!!!

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2 minutes ago, samuelsbald said:

thanks for all the fast answers

yeah i'm planning on buying a 144hz monitor, and as for the fps i want as much as possible

thanks for the warm welcome guys!!!

 

You should be fine with the Ryzen 2700X. I have a friend who has that paired with an RTX 2080 on a 27 inch 144hz monitor and it's flawless for him. He plays a lot of FPSes.


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1 hour ago, samuelsbald said:

So this i my complete build, anything to point a finger at?

 

 

 

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Can you post the link from PCpartpicker here? It's going to display the list automatically.

 


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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700@3.8Ghz Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Sapphire RX 5700 XT RAM: Qidian DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: MSI X370 Gaming Plus case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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1 hour ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

B450-A Pro/gaming plus/tomahawk instead of the B450-F.

is it an absolute necesity? why would you rather recomend this? 

Because i already ordered the moterboard. might be able to return if its a necesity

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Just now, samuelsbald said:

is it an absolute necesity? why would you rather recomend this? 

Because i already ordered the moterboard. might be able to return if its a necesity

the B450-F isn't as good as the ones i mentioned. you can try canceling the order if it's not shipped yet or just keep it if you really don't want to deal with the hassle.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700@3.8Ghz Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Sapphire RX 5700 XT RAM: Qidian DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: MSI X370 Gaming Plus case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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I was running a 2700x with my 2080ti earlier this year and it worked great, you are gonna be perfectly fine.


CPU Ryzen 3600, MB MSI MEG Ace x570, RAM Corsair Vengence Pro 32gb @ 3200 mhz, Custom Loop, Thermal Take Core P5 TG, GPU EVGA RTX2080 Ti XC  PC Part Picker list for complete build https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/j86vTB

 

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6 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

B450-A Pro/gaming plus/tomahawk instead of the B450-F.

the VRM on those boards are quite good for the 2700X since the 2700X might have a same current draw similar to the 3900X, therefore if those boards aren't capable of handling the 3900X, he'll have some thermal throtling.

@samuelsbald In my opinion i'd try to get a B450-F Strix, a B450 Tomahawk, or even if you find a B450 Gaming PRO Carbon AC. At least these boards i've quoted are well capable of handling that CPU and you might even have a little bit of room of overclocking as long as your case have a good airflow.

 


"Once there was an explosion, a bang that gave birth to time and space. Once there was an explosion, a bang that set a planet spinning in that space. Once there was an explosion, a bang that gave rise to life as we know it... And then came the next explosion. An explosion that will be our last"

 

"... To see the world in a grain of sand. Heaven in a wild flower

Hold infinite in the palm of your hand.  And eternity in an hour ..."

 

PC: 1

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 4.3GHz 1.3875v Motherboard: AsRock X470 Taichi (BIOS: Agesa 1.0.0.3 ABB) RAM: 4x8GB(32) 3200MHzCL16 Hyper X GPU: GTX 980 Ti Waterforce Xtreme Core Clock: 1595MHz Memory Clock: 8000MHz Storage: SAMSUNG EVO 860 2TB(OS) / SAMSUNG EVO 860 1TB(Backup) Cooler: NZXT Hydro X72 360mm Case: NZXT Phantom 820 PSU: Corsair TX-750w Display Monitor: Monitor AOC AG251FG 240Hz G-Sync 1080p Headset: Headset LogiTech G633 OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (Version: 1909 / OS Build: )

NOTEBOOK:

Model: Acer Aspire 5516 CPU: AMD TF-20 1.6GHz(1C/1T) GPU: ATI Radeon X1200(256MB) RAM: 4GB(2x2GB) 666MHz HD: SSD Sandisk PLUS 240GB OS: Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64

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4 minutes ago, GabrielLP14 said:

I don't think the VRM on those boards are quite good for the 2700X since the 2700X might have a same current draw similar to the 3900X, therefore is those boards aren't capable of handling the 3900X, he'll have some thermal throtling.

@samuelsbald In my opinion i'd try to get a B450-F Strix, a B450 Tomahawk, or even if you find a B450 Gaming PRO Carbon AC. At least these boards i've quoted are well capable of handling that CPU and you might even have a little bit of room of overclocking as long as your case have a good airflow.

 

the B450-A Pro and gaming plus both have the same VRM as the tomahawk, just with a different heatsink.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700@3.8Ghz Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Sapphire RX 5700 XT RAM: Qidian DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: MSI X370 Gaming Plus case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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Just now, Herman Mcpootis said:

the B450-A Pro and gaming plus both have the same VRM as the tomahawk, just with a different heatsink.

Yeah that's right, i just confirmed, they both have 2 high side mosfets 4C029N(per phase) and 2 low side mosfet per phase (4C024N).

 

Thank you for the head's up.

The only problem with those board i've recommended is finding them, and they might even be quite expensive.


"Once there was an explosion, a bang that gave birth to time and space. Once there was an explosion, a bang that set a planet spinning in that space. Once there was an explosion, a bang that gave rise to life as we know it... And then came the next explosion. An explosion that will be our last"

 

"... To see the world in a grain of sand. Heaven in a wild flower

Hold infinite in the palm of your hand.  And eternity in an hour ..."

 

PC: 1

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 4.3GHz 1.3875v Motherboard: AsRock X470 Taichi (BIOS: Agesa 1.0.0.3 ABB) RAM: 4x8GB(32) 3200MHzCL16 Hyper X GPU: GTX 980 Ti Waterforce Xtreme Core Clock: 1595MHz Memory Clock: 8000MHz Storage: SAMSUNG EVO 860 2TB(OS) / SAMSUNG EVO 860 1TB(Backup) Cooler: NZXT Hydro X72 360mm Case: NZXT Phantom 820 PSU: Corsair TX-750w Display Monitor: Monitor AOC AG251FG 240Hz G-Sync 1080p Headset: Headset LogiTech G633 OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (Version: 1909 / OS Build: )

NOTEBOOK:

Model: Acer Aspire 5516 CPU: AMD TF-20 1.6GHz(1C/1T) GPU: ATI Radeon X1200(256MB) RAM: 4GB(2x2GB) 666MHz HD: SSD Sandisk PLUS 240GB OS: Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64

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2 minutes ago, GabrielLP14 said:

Yeah that's right, i just confirmed, they both have 2 high side mosfets 4C029N(per phase) and 2 low side mosfet per phase (4C024N).

 

Thank you for the head's up.

The only problem with those board i've recommended is finding them, and they might even be quite expensive.

meh, the B450-A Pro has gotten to $70 in the US after rebates. that's about the best you'll get until you move up to $115 for a tomahawk.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700@3.8Ghz Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Sapphire RX 5700 XT RAM: Qidian DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: MSI X370 Gaming Plus case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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1 minute ago, samuelsbald said:

I'm gonna go with your advice and return the motherboard. i can get the MSI B450 A-pro Max for the same price anyways. Will my wraith prism stock cooler still fit?

 

sure, why not? if you want to save a few dollars, the B450-A Pro non max is $70 at B&H.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700@3.8Ghz Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Sapphire RX 5700 XT RAM: Qidian DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: MSI X370 Gaming Plus case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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