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1080p (175 MHz refresh rate) gaming

Keiran1983

For 1080p gaming, would a EVGA 2080 Super be an overkill for AAA title gaming?

 

Assuming that I will be using:

a) X470 Asus board,

b) Ryzen 7 3800X, and

c) 32GB (3600 Mhz).


 

 

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Maybe a tad, depending on the games

 

For AAA titles it would ensure that you're at least over 120 fps the majority of the time

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2 minutes ago, Keiran1983 said:

175 MHz refresh rate

Now that would be impressive!

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considering 144Hz is usually the definition of high refresh rate, 175MHz is insanely high and you can forget that with any graphics card, none will give you 175 million frames per second

 

It's not overkill if you ask me, but 2080S are pretty bad value. Either you save money, get the 2070S and upgrade when next gen stuff comes, or you get a 2080ti

 

but what board is that?

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Another MHz joke

 

First off, i don't see any 175Hz 1080p displays, are you sure you're reading it right ? There's 180Hz displays and it's probably not overkill for it but honestly, you're not gonna see the difference between 130-140 FPS and 180 FPS so just get RX5700, it's solid GPU for 1080p 144Hz.

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5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

considering 144Hz is usually the definition of high refresh rate, 175MHz is insanely high and you can forget that with any graphics card, none will give you 175 million frames per second

 

It's not overkill if you ask me, but 2080S are pretty bad value. Either you save money, get the 2070S and upgrade when next gen stuff comes, or you get a 2080ti

 

but what board is that?

U have a good point regarding 2080S having bad value.  I am seeing at least USD800 for a good one.  
 

2080TI is out of the question.  Not spending more than 1K on that overpriced GPU.  
 

For motherboard, gonna use the X470 Asus ROG Strix Gaming.

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10 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

Now that would be impressive!


opps!!  It should be 144MHZ monitor.  Got confused between the 75MHZ and the 144MHZ to be 175MHZ

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6 minutes ago, Juular said:

Another MHz joke

 

First off, i don't see any 175Hz 1080p displays, are you sure you're reading it right ? There's 180Hz displays and it's probably not overkill for it but honestly, you're not gonna see the difference between 130-140 FPS and 180 FPS so just get RX5700, it's solid GPU for 1080p 144Hz.

Good catch.  It should be 144MHZ refresh rate.  Confused with the 75MHZ to be a 175MHZ one.

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7 minutes ago, Juular said:

Another MHz joke

 

First off, i don't see any 175Hz 1080p displays, are you sure you're reading it right ? There's 180Hz displays and it's probably not overkill for it but honestly, you're not gonna see the difference between 130-140 FPS and 180 FPS so just get RX5700, it's solid GPU for 1080p 144Hz.

Currently i am using the EVGA 1070 Superclocked card.  Any upgrade between this card and AMD’s RX5700?

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I would say a 2080 super is overkill for 1080p gaming... A good freesync monitor with a range up to like 165 and a 2070 super is PLENTY enough. My 2080 at 1989 Mhz core does 3440x1440, most games at high in the 80's -90's. 3440x1440 is 2.5x the resolution of 1080p, its 4.9 million pixles vs 1080p's 2.1 million.

 

A 2070 super is basically a 2080, and for 1080p gaming your going to destroy games with anything ~GTX 1060 and up. I would say a 1060 is low if your trying to push past 100 FPS, but a 2080 super is pretty overkill for that.

 

TLDR; I would shift some money into a quality monitor, and get a 2070 super instead.

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2 minutes ago, Keiran1983 said:

Currently i am using the EVGA 1070 Superclocked card.  Any upgrade between this card and AMD’s RX5700?

Stay on the 1070. For 1080p its plenty good of a card. I had a 1070 powering my second PC which has a 2560x1440 165 hz Acer Predator, and it did fine. That PC now has a 1080 as I got my 2080 for a steal, moved my 1080 to my second PC and sold my 1070. But, anyways, point is, a 1070 is plenty for 1080p gaming. Just pick up a nice freesync (or gsync) monitor, and it will be an amazing experience!

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11 minutes ago, Keiran1983 said:

Currently i am using the EVGA 1070 Superclocked card.  Any upgrade between this card and AMD’s RX5700?

There will be some improvement (about 15-20%) but i don't think it worth spending money on, stay on this GPU then and wait for the next year offers, Intel will enter the GPU market, AMD will release their RT capable GPUs so it'll be a good year to pick a new GPU.

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19 minutes ago, Keiran1983 said:

X470 Asus ROG Strix Gaming.

X470-F is decent for the job

 

10 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

I had a 1070 powering my second PC which has a 2560x1440 165 hz Acer Predator, and it did fine.

I disagree, I couldn't get more than 80ps on average by avoiding cities (let alone the frame rate dips) with mix of high and very high settings at 1080p in Assassin's Creed Origins when I borrowed an 8700k system for a test. With my 2600k it couldn't even break 75fps without going to the middle of the sea/lake.

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

X470-F is decent for the job

 

I disagree, I couldn't get more than 80ps on average by avoiding cities (let alone the frame rate dips) with mix of high and very high settings at 1080p in Assassin's Creed Origins when I borrowed an 8700k system for a test. With my 2600k it couldn't even break 75fps without going to the middle of the sea/lake.

I was running it on a 3770k @ 4.4.... and it did fine. I have not played assassins creed tho. I can say in a game like BF V which likes CPU's... swapping my second PC from that 3700k to a 4.6 GHz 6700k, I gained ~30+ FPS taking me from 70's to low 100's in most areas.

 

Anyways, this is the purpose of adaptive refresh. I would get a nice monitor, and worry less about the GPU behind it. A 1070 is still a phenominal card. Adaptive refresh will smooth out any of the dips, and in a year or two, OP should get a 2170 or whatever is next. That upgrade would be more worth while. Unless you can flip your 1070 for a decent price, and possibly find a used 2070. Depending on your craigslist abilities, this could be a good option. 

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1 hour ago, Keiran1983 said:

144MHZ

144Hz.

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Wish I could afford to make a new rig to keep up with a card for my 1080p monitor. Being able to play a game at 180-200 frames was quite nice compared to a 120hz monitor. Pretty much how the game was meant to be played. No anticipating the lack of frames and unable to properly track opponents. The smoothness was nice as well.

 

Id get the card or a regular 2080 at a minimum.

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