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Are these 4k Blu-ray Burner?

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1 hour ago, UDONTO said:

Are these 4k Blu-ray Burner? For real?

 

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B079LR2Q67

 

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07GPMLT8D

Probably just check reviews on youtube and stuff

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Yup. Doesn't seem to be of any interest unless you actually need to make 4K video blu-rays though. As storage blank disks seem to come out at about $130 per TB, which is... more than a freaking SSD, let alone HDDs.

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12 hours ago, Kilrah said:

Yup. Doesn't seem to be of any interest unless you actually need to make 4K video blu-rays though. As storage blank disks seem to come out at about $130 per TB, which is... more than a freaking SSD, let alone HDDs.

depending on how long you want to store them though, optical discs can in theory last pretty much forever if stored properly. NAND flash will eventually lose its data if the individual cells are not used (as in rewritten, not just powering on the drive), and mechanical HDDs components all eventually degrade just from existing.

 

Under ideal storage conditions I don't think there is a known limit on how long optical storage can last. Just food for thought.

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4 hours ago, Kalm_Traveler1 said:

Under ideal storage conditions I don't think there is a known limit on how long optical storage can last. Just food for thought.

In theory yes, but in practice in the late 90s and early 2000s I stored my data on optical discs like everyone, and when I transferred their contents back onto HDDs around 2008 or so about 20% of the discs were dead. I had a huge mix of disc brands etc and there were failures among premium types, while some I fully expected to be low quality trash held up nicely so it's hard to say "get a good disc and it'll last forever". It depends on so many factors there is no way in a home setting to know what disc life time your set of equipment and procedures will result in.

 

Since then I don't do "archives" anymore, all the data I want to keep whether old and rarely used or recent and in daily use is on one hard drive set (currently 2x16TB RAID0) of which I have 2 backups. One backup is stored off-site, I rotate them every couple of weeks, and update the backup I have with me every few days. They all stay in regular use so no risk of them getting stuck due to never being used or going bad undetected, and I run a full check on the data between main and each backup once every 6 months or so to catch any possible defective sector/bit rot.

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On 11/28/2019 at 10:10 AM, Streetguru said:

Probably just check reviews on youtube and stuff

I did! No useful information there.

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6 hours ago, Kilrah said:

In theory yes, but in practice in the late 90s and early 2000s I stored my data on optical discs like everyone, and when I transferred their contents back onto HDDs around 2008 or so about 20% of the discs were dead. I had a huge mix of disc brands etc and there were failures among premium types, while some I fully expected to be low quality trash held up nicely so it's hard to say "get a good disc and it'll last forever". It depends on so many factors there is no way in a home setting to know what disc life time your set of equipment and procedures will result in.

 

Since then I don't do "archives" anymore, all the data I want to keep whether old and rarely used or recent and in daily use is on one hard drive set (currently 2x16TB RAID0) of which I have 2 backups. One backup is stored off-site, I rotate them every couple of weeks, and update the backup I have with me every few days. They all stay in regular use so no risk of them getting stuck due to never being used or going bad undetected, and I run a full check on the data between main and each backup once every 6 months or so to catch any possible defective sector/bit rot.

That's a lot of effort.

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15 minutes ago, noxdeouroboros said:

Not 100% sure that they are, what I can be sure about is this one : https://www.amazon.com.au/BDR-S11J-BK-Pioneer-Blu-ray-Burner-internal/dp/B01N17W4MI my friend has one, and this one is 4k Blu-Ray Burner.

Ok.

Thanks for the info.

 

Do you know a place where I could find some more information about the LG one?

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There's a bunch in the comments on the page, also in English.

 

There is nothing special about "4K" though, just to know whether the drive writes to BDXL and to how many layers. Standard BD is single or dual layer, BDXL as used for 4K is triple or quad layer.

 

See comments about using it for watching/ripping movies, seems that's complicated if it's what you want.

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