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I'm thinking about getting a 27" 1440p monitor (moving up from same size at 1080p). Sitting about 60cm (2ft) away. At that higher resolution, do you think I will need to enable Windows text scaling to increase the font sizes? And if so, will it be a good experience in 2019, or is it still blurry?

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3 minutes ago, thegreatestusername said:

Hi all!

I'm thinking about getting a 27" 1440p monitor (moving up from same size at 1080p). Sitting about 60cm (2ft) away. At that higher resolution, do you think I will need to enable Windows text scaling to increase the font sizes? And if so, will it be a good experience in 2019, or is it still blurry?

Only a 1440p 60hz monitor? or 144hz? at what budget/country?

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Only a 1440p 60hz monitor? or 144hz? at what budget/country?

144hz. I already have my eye on the specific monitor (Dell S2719DGF), but I'm just wondering it the increase in resolution at 27" will mean I will need to use Windows text scaling to increase the size of the text. Because text gets smaller as the resolution goes up.

6 minutes ago, WereCat said:

no

27" is fine without scaling at that distance 

Cool. I've seen lots of threads online with people saying they use around 120% scaling for 1440p 27". Perhaps they just have bad eyesight?

My other option is getting a 1080p 25" high refresh rate. That should increase the PPI a bit from what I'm used to at least.

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2 minutes ago, thegreatestusername said:

 

I was just going to mention if you're in the US monoprice has their Zero G ultraiwde for $299 100-120hz with free-sync.

 

but it's only 120ppi, it's not a huge increase over a 24" 1080p display. You can enable DSR or VSR in your GPU drivers, to run your desktop at a higher resolution and get a feel for the size.

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=38035

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what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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I sit around the same distance away from my screen and have a 27" 4K at 100% scaling so.... 

Programs all work fine, I do have to zoom in websites to about 150% though. 

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It all depends on your eyesight. I was using a 22" 1080p monitor for some time and I decided on upgrading since the pixels were too small for my poor eyesight so to say (reading was straining) and I considered 27" 1440p. Until I did the calculations to determine the pixel sizes of 22" 1080p, 24" 1080p (which was fine and I consider it the optimal for 1080p), 27" 1440p and 32" 1440p. The 32" 1440p has roughly the same pixel size as an 24" 1080p and that proved ideal for me - I have no regrets with the LG 32GK650F.

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19 minutes ago, thegreatestusername said:

 

Cool. I've seen lots of threads online with people saying they use around 120% scaling for 1440p 27". Perhaps they just have bad eyesight?

My other option is getting a 1080p 25" high refresh rate. That should increase the PPI a bit from what I'm used to at least.

I have 27" and 32" 1440p and I use no scaling. 

I don't have a perfect eye sight. I have to focus a bit if I lean back away from the 32" (about 70-80cm away). 

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50 minutes ago, thegreatestusername said:

Hi all!

I'm thinking about getting a 27" 1440p monitor (moving up from same size at 1080p). Sitting about 60cm (2ft) away. At that higher resolution, do you think I will need to enable Windows text scaling to increase the font sizes? And if so, will it be a good experience in 2019, or is it still blurry?

i would go to 31.5 inches that way you don't have to worry about it!

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1 hour ago, minibois said:

I sit around the same distance away from my screen and have a 27" 4K at 100% scaling so.... 

Programs all work fine, I do have to zoom in websites to about 150% though. 

Good to hear! And the sites still look fine (normal) after zooming?

1 hour ago, 191x7 said:

It all depends on your eyesight. I was using a 22" 1080p monitor for some time and I decided on upgrading since the pixels were too small for my poor eyesight so to say (reading was straining) and I considered 27" 1440p. Until I did the calculations to determine the pixel sizes of 22" 1080p, 24" 1080p (which was fine and I consider it the optimal for 1080p), 27" 1440p and 32" 1440p. The 32" 1440p has roughly the same pixel size as an 24" 1080p and that proved ideal for me - I have no regrets with the LG 32GK650F.

Yeah, that's the trouble. Some of this is subjective. So, if my choice was between a 27" 1440p or a 24/25" 1080p, you'd recommend the smaller one? Since, 1440p at 27" might make the text quite small, and bring in a need for scaling.

1 hour ago, WereCat said:

I have 27" and 32" 1440p and I use no scaling. 

I don't have a perfect eye sight. I have to focus a bit if I lean back away from the 32" (about 70-80cm away). 

Cool. Do you know how far away you usually sit when reading?

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4 minutes ago, thegreatestusername said:

Yeah, that's the trouble. Some of this is subjective. So, if my choice was between a 27" 1440p or a 24/25" 1080p, you'd recommend the smaller one? Since, 1440p at 27" might make the text quite small, and bring in a need for scaling.

Scaling, in my opinion, is a bad thing. Poorly done in Windows.

 

I would choose a 24" 1080p over an 27" 1440p FOR ME if I had to work a lot on it. For gaming/etc I'd still go 1440p.

32" 1440p shouldn't be that more expensive than 27" 1440p so...

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4 minutes ago, thegreatestusername said:

Good to hear! And the sites still look fine (normal) after zooming?

Yea. There are exceptions though...But generally it all works fine for me.

Usually I have pages zoomed in around 130-150%.

 

Are you gonna be using another monitor at the same time? At least Google Chrome it syncs up the website scaling across all windows.

What I mean, if I open google.com on my 4K 27" and 1080p 24" and zoom it in on my 4K 27" (which I would do to get easily readible text) it also zooms in on the 24".

The zoom level is linked to a website, rather than window.

 

For example, I have YouTube open mainly on my 1080p 24" and thus it's at 100% or 90%. When I open YouTube on my 4K 27" (which I rarely do) I can barely read the text.. but not very easily or comfortably.

 

But of course that is my personal opinion and I always implore people to try something like a monitor out in a store or whatever.

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21 minutes ago, thegreatestusername said:

Good to hear! And the sites still look fine (normal) after zooming?

Yeah, that's the trouble. Some of this is subjective. So, if my choice was between a 27" 1440p or a 24/25" 1080p, you'd recommend the smaller one? Since, 1440p at 27" might make the text quite small, and bring in a need for scaling.

Cool. Do you know how far away you usually sit when reading?

about 50cm

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No. Wouldn't necessarily say you'd need for 24"1440p even, at least I can see fine. 

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4 hours ago, Doobeedoo said:

No. Wouldn't necessarily say you'd need for 24"1440p even, at least I can see fine. 

Awesome! :) Which monitor do you have? Dell S2417DG?
And how far away from it do you sit?

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21 minutes ago, thegreatestusername said:

Awesome! :) Which monitor do you have? Dell S2417DG?
And how far away from it do you sit?

Nah, an Acer IPS one. Got more monitors, and I sit arm distance from.

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