Camera recommendations under 500$??

[DavePlays]

Just now, GDRRiley said:

if I remember right the C100 isn't all that different from a late 2000s canon dslr.

I think it has better codecs if I remember correctly... Maybe a higher bitrate. idk.. I've never used a C100.

[GDRRiley]

2 minutes ago, Tarun10 said:

Between the G85 and the SL3 which is a better choice overall for nearly equal amounts of photo and video? I figure Canon AF is better while the video is better on the G85 and photos are better on the Canon. Since I might not upgrade for quite a while or find anything used back here in India the mount doesn't matter too much. In the long run the Canon lenses might be a better choice if I go down that path but MFT doesn't seem too bad.

the sl3 should do better pictures and photos.

[Tarun10]

1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

the sl3 should do better pictures and photos.

How good are the controls and features on that thing? I do need something that's future-proofed to some extent and it seems to fit the bill well. Any particular downsides in video? 

[GDRRiley]

1 minute ago, DavePlays said:

I think it has better codecs if I remember correctly... Maybe a higher bitrate. idk.. I've never used a C100.

the processor is from 2006. Id never get a 1st gen one. C100 mk2 is slightly better but really the C200 or C300 are the decent ones from them.

[GDRRiley]

2 minutes ago, Tarun10 said:

How good are the controls and features on that thing? I do need something that's future-proofed to some extent and it seems to fit the bill well. Any particular downsides in video? 

I have a SL2 its super easy to use with 2 modes. Guided and fully unlocked.

4k video has a crop in.

[Tarun10]

Just now, GDRRiley said:

I have a SL2 its super easy to use with 2 modes. Guided and fully unlocked.

4k video has a crop in.

Thanks for the list. Is the crop-in significant? It just means that only a part of the total sensor is used right? Also, would 50mm prime be the right length for indoor shooting in a moderate sized room or bigger halls, etc?

[GDRRiley]

4 minutes ago, Tarun10 said:

Thanks for the list. Is the crop-in significant? It just means that only a part of the total sensor is used right? Also, would 50mm prime be the right length for indoor shooting in a moderate sized room or bigger halls, etc?

i think it is a 2x on EF lens so your 50 would be like a 100mm.

so for vidoes no you'd want the kit lens. for photo work sure.

[Tarun10]

2 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

i think it is a 2x on EF lens so your 50 would be like a 100mm.

so for vidoes no you'd want the kit lens. for photo work sure.

Would the 35mm work for video indoors? I figure the A6100 isn't worth it with a kit lens at 750$, am I right? And any other accessories a beginner like me would need?

[GDRRiley]

11 minutes ago, Tarun10 said:

Would the 35mm work for video indoors? I figure the A6100 isn't worth it with a kit lens at 750$, am I right? And any other accessories a beginner like me would need?

the b&H kit has a decent SD card, bag, with some extra batteries and an extra lens nothing else I can think of other than a tri//mono pod.

the 35 would be better but the kit all the way wide would still be best.

[Tarun10]

7 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

the b&H kit has a decent SD card, bag, with some extra batteries and an extra lens nothing else I can think of other than a tri//mono pod.

the 35 would be better but the kit all the way wide would still be best.

Thanks a lot for the help.

[GDRRiley]

30 minutes ago, Tarun10 said:

Thanks a lot for the help.

welcome. don't forget to mark a topic as solved and pick the best answer if you no longer need help.

[Tarun10]

2 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

welcome. don't forget to mark a topic as solved and pick the best answer if you no longer need help.

Any good prime lenses for the G85? Should I just look at used and new on B&H and Adorama? Also between 35mm and 50mm for over 70% shooting in indoor spaces, not very small spaces though.

[GDRRiley]

4 minutes ago, Tarun10 said:

Any good prime lenses for the G85? Should I just look at used and new on B&H and Adorama? Also between 35mm and 50mm for over 70% shooting in indoor spaces, not very small spaces though.

I've not used any micro 4/3 cameras. youd have to go read reviews.

Used lens are definitely an option.

id say 35mm

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801900025-USE/canon_6473a003_ef_75_300mm_f_4_5_6_iii.html

that is a used slightly older version of the lens I recommended.

[Tarun10]

4 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

I've not used any micro 4/3 cameras. youd have to go read reviews.

Used lens are definitely an option.

id say 35mm

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801900025-USE/canon_6473a003_ef_75_300mm_f_4_5_6_iii.html

that is a used slightly older version of the lens I recommended.

Any reason why people recommend certain telephotos over the others? Like 75-300 is mentioned a lot. Also any other lenses I should potentially look at in the near future?

[GDRRiley]

10 minutes ago, Tarun10 said:

Any reason why people recommend certain telephotos over the others? Like 75-300 is mentioned a lot. Also any other lenses I should potentially look at in the near future?

all about image quality/distortion and speed vs cost.

the 75-300 is often metioned because its cheap while not constant or fast F stop it does take decent photos and video.

maybe a 18-135. it is the jack of all trades except avoid low light.

[Tarun10]

Just now, GDRRiley said:

all about image quality/distortion and speed vs cost.

the 75-300 is often metioned because its cheap while not constant or fast F stop it does take decent photos and video.

maybe a 18-135. it is the jack of all trades except avoid low light.

Isn't 300 on this mount really zoomed in? Do you have any opinions on the A6100 for 750$ with a 16-50mm and a free kit?

[GDRRiley]

Just now, Tarun10 said:

Isn't 300 on this mount really zoomed in? Do you have any opinions on the A6100 for 750$ with a 16-50mm and a free kit?

its actually more like a 450 vs a full frame.

and I'd say no we aren't getting into crazy zoom yet.

 

Sorry I don't know Sonys lineup at all.

[Tarun10]

4 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

its actually more like a 450 vs a full frame.

and I'd say no we aren't getting into crazy zoom yet.

 

Sorry I don't know Sonys lineup at all.

According to most reviews, it is pretty good at photo and video and is compact and has reliable, fast AF. It is supposed to have just as good photos as DSLRs like the SL3 but I think getting lenses is just as important and Sony's lenses while not limited are more expensive from my searching online.

[GDRRiley]

7 minutes ago, Tarun10 said:

According to most reviews, it is pretty good at photo and video and is compact and has reliable, fast AF. It is supposed to have just as good photos as DSLRs like the SL3 but I think getting lenses is just as important and Sony's lenses while not limited are more expensive from my searching online.

only good thing about most of sonys mounts are that you can adapt to others.

it is why micro 4/3 is popular.

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[ka_re_t]

Woah, that's a lot of talking I missed.

 

The G85 has one big advantage over the G7 IMO, which is image stabilization.  This is incredibly helpful for video, but a top handle for the camera can do almost as good of a job as a gimbal at stabilzation.  And those are $20.  

Canon has far better AF.  But as someone else said, the crop when using 4k is significant, which is where a G7 or G85 wins.  There is a $150 25mm prime lens from Panasonic that works with any micro four thirds camera, and it gives you a 50mm equivalent focal length, which is standard.  

 

As you said earlier, a longer focal length means you have to stand further away to get the same sized subject.  But it also effects how distant objects look, this is called "background compression".  I suggest watching a video on that topic.

[Tarun10]

On 12/5/2019 at 7:08 AM, ka_re_t said:

Woah, that's a lot of talking I missed.

 

The G85 has one big advantage over the G7 IMO, which is image stabilization.  This is incredibly helpful for video, but a top handle for the camera can do almost as good of a job as a gimbal at stabilzation.  And those are $20.  

Canon has far better AF.  But as someone else said, the crop when using 4k is significant, which is where a G7 or G85 wins.  There is a $150 25mm prime lens from Panasonic that works with any micro four thirds camera, and it gives you a 50mm equivalent focal length, which is standard.  

 

As you said earlier, a longer focal length means you have to stand further away to get the same sized subject.  But it also effects how distant objects look, this is called "background compression".  I suggest watching a video on that topic.

Oh so that solves IS uh? Interesting but I feel the G85 does take better photos because they removed a certain filter and it does seem to be a good value. That's what I'm leaning towards. Later if I save up maybe I can decide and settle on one particular mount or brand.

[GDRRiley]

On 12/4/2019 at 5:38 PM, ka_re_t said:

Canon has far better AF.  But as someone else said, the crop when using 4k is significant, which is where a G7 or G85 wins. 

The crop only is a lot on EF lenses on EF-s it isn't much