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Ryzen 3600 and ddr4 2400

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi guys i have small  problem actually  2  iam going to upgrade my system to ryzen 3600 and  asrock b450 m steel legend  i also have rx 570  and team delta rgb dddr4 2400  i know wgat are you going to say get high ram frequency but iam on limited budget so i wonder will i lose performance  from this card or the losing will be with high end cards like 2070 or 5700xt and similar  or above  i will change it soon after 2 month but iam nust curious  also about temp can stock cooler handle gaming for Two months to to get the cooler with news rams

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Stock cooler is fine if you dont OC.  2400mhz RAM is not going to kill your performance, and if you put some time into it you can generally hit at least 2933 with pretty much any modern DDR4 memory.  Timings will not be optimal, but that isnt what is really important with Ryzen, getting the fabric clock up is primarily what boosts performance.

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Yes, you will lose performance. Ryzen performance is very closely tied to RAM speed. The price of higher speed RAM generally isn't that much higher, I'd really save a little longer and get a proper kit. After all, why replace it after only two months? Just save up another week and buy a proper kit.

 

 


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38 minutes ago, ahmed ibrahem said:

i wonder will i lose performance  from this card

Unlikely with only an RX 570, but the higher the frame rate the more the low memory speed and subpar latency hurts performance so faster cards and less GPU demanding games (i.e. CSGO) will see bigger impact than GPU benchmarks like the Witcher 3


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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I have the 2600 and 5700XT. RDR2 runs CPU at 45% and GPU 100% on medium/low settings and ram at 3000. I have run my ram at 2400. At 2400 the cpu runs cooler. Stock cooler is fine for stock use. I dont think I would use PBO on the stock cooler.

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btw it also depends on the game's preference to memory performance. PUBG for example, is notorious for being memory heavy even on Intel systems.


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Unlikely with only an RX 570, but the higher the frame rate the more the low memory speed and subpar latency hurts performance.

I will use only for rx 570 i just want to be sure  i will have similar  perfirmance  like my previous i5 8400 and before you say it iam getting ryzen 3600 for multi tasking  and not be 100 % usage  like bfv and bf1 with i5 8400

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Posted · Original PosterOP
25 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Yes, you will lose performance. Ryzen performance is very closely tied to RAM speed. The price of higher speed RAM generally isn't that much higher, I'd really save a little longer and get a proper kit. After all, why replace it after only two months? Just save up another week and buy a proper kit.

 

 

Good thinking bro but i havevthe rams already i used them with my previous build

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Ahhh then just use them. You won't lose that much performance. Maybe like 6 or 7 fps.


Current PC:

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*WORK IN PROGRESS*

 

Mothballed PC:

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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11 minutes ago, ahmed ibrahem said:

bfv and bf1

oh these are CPU heavy, but still dont think the RX 570 is that strong to not be the bottleneck first


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP

 Now i entered asrock b450m steel legend and didnot find my ram team delta rgb 2 x 8 patch TF3D416G2400HC15BDC01  will not work with my new ryzen 3600 at full speed  second if runs 2400 will that alsoin decreasing temps with cpu on stock cooler and temps should i expect  at gaming at bf v for example or runing cine bench

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1 hour ago, ahmed ibrahem said:

 Now i entered asrock b450m steel legend and didnot find my ram team delta rgb 2 x 8 patch TF3D416G2400HC15BDC01  will not work with my new ryzen 3600 at full speed  second if runs 2400 will that alsoin decreasing temps with cpu on stock cooler and temps should i expect  at gaming at bf v for example or runing cine bench

Doesnt matter, it will run at SPD timings.  2400 CL 15 in your case.

 

CPU temps are only increased when going over something like 3200 on the 3000 series Ryzen chips AFAIK.

 

With stock cooler, expect ~80c when using a torture test like Prime 95.  5-10c lower for other "normal" full load situations.

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