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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi guys,

 

Currently running a i5 2500 with 8gigs of ram and a 128GB SSD.

Couple of months ago I upgraded my Radeon 7950 to RTX2060, now it's time to upgrade the rest since I feel my system has become unstable ever since.

Feels like it's dying / bottlenecking. (random BSODs, PC rebooting during demanding games with sound stutter, ... )

I ran FurMark without problems for couple of hours, so my GPU seems fine.

Prime95 gave this error:

FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file. 

 

Anyway, doesn't matter much, looking for a new rig anyway! :)

 

My current build list so far:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PLmcq3

 

Some extra information

 

What is your intended use for this build? The more details the better.

Casual gaming (dad to be) + every day use.

If gaming, what kind of performance are you looking for? (Screen resolution, framerate, game settings)

Currently using a 24" inch monitor, might upgrade later. High/Ultra @ 1080p.

What is your budget (ballpark is okay)?

I already bought a graphics card (RTX 2060), got € 800 left.

In what country are you purchasing your parts?

Belgium, Europe.

 

 

Provide any additional details you wish below.

  • Not entirely sure about the SSD.

  • Do I need extra case fans if I'm not really planning to OC?

  • I read the MAX version of the mobo does NOT need to be flashed to be compatible with the latest Ryzen CPU's, is that correct?

  • Any other comparable cases I should look at? I like the minimalistic / clean design of it.

  • Memory brand / speed ok? I read that 3600 is ideal for the Ryzen 3600

  • 650W PSU enough / overkill ?

  • Should I wait for black friday sales / holiday sales?

Thanks in advance for the feedback!

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1) It's always good to have an SSD, even more so now that games need more and more time to load.

2) If the case comes with two fans (one for in and one for out air flow) you don't need anything else.

3) Correct. MAX are compatible with Ryzen 3xxx series out of the box.

4) Don't know, sorry.

5) It's pretty good and have a nice latency.

6) 650W is more than enough for almost anything.

 

Your build is pretty good in general. Maybe you can sell or return the 2060 and get something more powerful like a RX 5700 XT or 2070 super but, for 1080p 60Hz, RTX 2060 is more than enough.

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11 minutes ago, AeroFury said:

Do I need extra case fans if I'm not really planning to OC?

if you get a case with only one or two fans, it can be pretty helpful to potentially reduce noise. For the case you picked, a second fan intake would be helpful.

 

11 minutes ago, AeroFury said:

I read the MAX version of the mobo does NOT need to be flashed to be compatible with the latest Ryzen CPU's, correct?

yes, although that's MSI specific. There are other B450 boards and such that are guaranteed to work out of box without some special denotation, like the ASRock B450M/AC.

 

By the way, there's a Belgian PCpp

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/

 

This PSU might be of interest.

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/dDH48d/corsair-txm-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020133-na

The TXM line is above the new RM line in quality.


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

EVGA G3 thread, BR/BT threadSeasonic Focus thread, S12II/M12II thread, Userbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, RodrigoRS said:

1) It's always good to have an SSD, even more so now that games need more and more time to load.

2) If the case comes with two fans (one for in and one for out air flow) you don't need anything else.

3) Correct. MAX are compatible with Ryzen 3xxx series out of the box.

4) Don't know, sorry.

5) It's pretty good and have a nice latency.

6) 650W is more than enough for almost anything.

 

Your build is pretty good in general. Maybe you can sell or return the 2060 and get something more powerful like a RX 5700 XT or 2070 super but, for 1080p 60Hz, RTX 2060 is more than enough.

I'm sold on the SSD, but not entirely sure about the exact type I should go for, done lots of reading and the Crucial P1 and intel 660p often come back, but then I read some negative reviews about the SSD's when they were reaching capacity and slowing down tremendously.

 

Yeah, not sure about the 2060. Want to see how it runs combined with the rest of my new system. It looked as the best bang for your buck card when I bought it a couple of months ago.

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3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

if you get a case with only one or two fans, it can be pretty helpful to potentially reduce noise. For the case you picked, a second fan intake would be helpful.

 

yes, although that's MSI specific. There are other B450 boards and such that are guaranteed to work out of box without some special denotation, like the ASRock B450M/AC.

 

By the way, there's a Belgian PCpp

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/

Ok, I might look at an extra intake fan then. Any recommendations?

 

I tried the Belgian Pcpp but most parts didn't have sellers / prices, so hard to use. :/

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Just now, AeroFury said:

Ok, I might look at an extra intake fan then. Any recommendations?

 

any inexpensive be quiet! fans work pretty well, and if you want some LED flair the Corsair AF series looks pretty good.


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

EVGA G3 thread, BR/BT threadSeasonic Focus thread, S12II/M12II thread, Userbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions

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9 minutes ago, AeroFury said:
  • Not entirely sure about the SSD.

  • Do I need extra case fans if I'm not really planning to OC?

  • I read the MAX version of the mobo does NOT need to be flashed to be compatible with the latest Ryzen CPU's, is that correct?

  • Any other comparable cases I should look at? I like the minimalistic / clean design of it.

  • Memory brand / speed ok? I read that 3600 is ideal for the Ryzen 3600

  • 650W PSU enough / overkill ?

  • Should I wait for black friday sales / holiday sales?

Crucial P1, a QLC NVMe SSD. Its main competitor is the Intel 660p and a bunch of TLC SATA SSDs like the Curcial MX500, Adata SU800, WD Blue/SN500.

 

Not for the NZXT H510, this case does come with 4 fans tho I myself will get a better ventillated case in the first place.

 

Technically yes, but I've read about new "steppings" of CPUs (i,.e. production run) needing newer BIOS revisions in order to work. Best to rely on BIOS flashback feature of the motherboard.

 

Not having some kind of mesh somewhere will hurt airflow significantly, that's just how aerodynamics work. Noy saying it has to be an entire mesh front like the Fractal Design Meshify C/S2 or Corsair 275R airflow edition, but there are cases like the Define C or Corsair 275R for example.

 

Brand of memory is fine, Team Group, Galax, Kingston, G.skill, Corsair, Crucial etc, you're just buying their customer service. 3600MHz CL16 is one of the best value picks no matter the platform, I have no problem with that.

 

RTX 2060 is a 160w by design from Nvidia and tops at 200-225w gaming load when overclocked and overvolted, R5 3600 draws 120w at worst, so 650w is overkill. You're fine with even 450w, tho 550w is the better deal.

 

Definitely, if that's a thing in Belgium


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
6 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Crucial P1, a QLC NVMe SSD. Its main competitor is the Intel 660p and a bunch of TLC SATA SSDs like the Curcial MX500, Adata SU800, WD Blue/SN500.

 

Not for the NZXT H510, this case does come with 4 fans tho I myself will get a better ventillated case in the first place.

 

Technically yes, but I've read about new "steppings" of CPUs (i,.e. production run) needing newer BIOS revisions in order to work. Best to rely on BIOS flashback feature of the motherboard.

 

Not having some kind of mesh somewhere will hurt airflow significantly, that's just how aerodynamics work. Noy saying it has to be an entire mesh front like the Fractal Design Meshify C/S2 or Corsair 275R airflow edition, but there are cases like the Define C or Corsair 275R for example.

 

Brand of memory is fine, Team Group, Galax, Kingston, G.skill, Corsair, Crucial etc, you're just buying their customer service. 3600MHz CL16 is one of the best value picks no matter the platform, I have no problem with that.

 

RTX 2060 is a 160w by design from Nvidia and tops at 200-225w gaming load when overclocked and overvolted, R5 3600 draws 120w at worst, so 650w is overkill. You're fine with even 450w, tho 550w is the better deal.

 

Definitely, if that's a thing in Belgium

I like the look of those Fractal Design cases, I'll have a look and see if it fits my budget.

Thanks for the advice!

 

Still can't decide on the SSD though... :)

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2 hours ago, AeroFury said:

Still can't decide on the SSD though... :)

I'd recommend the MX500 then, speed difference from SATA to NVMe is not a game changer, but MX500 is based on well-proven tech. Not so worried about lifespan or speed drop as SSDs fill up even for QLC, it's not expensive to get 1TB or higher SSDs anyway


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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