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3600x or 3700x

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I'm kind of in a tough decision here. I'm looking at upgrading my CPU from my i5 6600k and I'm interesting in switching to Ryzen. I'm currently stuck between the 3600x and 3700x. I'm trying to upgrade for hopefully under $500. I mostly use my computer for programming (web applications) and some slight gaming. My computer right now can handle heavy multitasking while doing web development, however, my computer does seem to struggle when I open a couple of chrome tabs while playing a game. The games I'm looking at playing are probably some newer titles like Watch Dogs 2 Legion and Triple A titles to that sort at 1080p (144fps).


So in summary, is the 3600x worth it or is the 3700x for my use case?

 

Also, what would be a good cooling solution for either chips? I currently have a H100i v1 and most likely will need an upgrade. 

 

  


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Depends on how many years you want to keep using the new system. 3700X with 8 cores certainly is more future proof. If you have enough budget, get the 3700X, good for multi-tasking.

 

A good air cooler like the Noctua U12A is what I'd recommended. If you don't plan to overclock, even the stock box cooler or NH-U9S will be enough for the 3700X.

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20 minutes ago, Creed1 said:

I'm kind of in a tough decision here. I'm looking at upgrading my CPU from my i5 6600k and I'm interesting in switching to Ryzen. I'm currently stuck between the 3600x and 3700x. I'm trying to upgrade for hopefully under $500. I mostly use my computer for programming (web applications) and some slight gaming. My computer right now can handle heavy multitasking while doing web development, however, my computer does seem to struggle when I open a couple of chrome tabs while playing a game. The games I'm looking at playing are probably some newer titles like Watch Dogs 2 Legion and Triple A titles to that sort at 1080p (144fps).


So in summary, is the 3600x worth it or is the 3700x for my use case?

 

Also, what would be a good cooling solution for either chips? I currently have a H100i v1 and most likely will need an upgrade. 

 

  

Your 240mm AIO is fine, unless you just want to get rid of it

 

The Arctic Xtreme is $35 for a dual tower cooler otherwise.

Probably just get the 3700X if you think  you'll need more cores, going to want 3600mhz CL16 RAM if possible

 

I have no idea why this board is only $127, it has the same VRM as the $199 TUF


I assume the plan is to replace your CPU/Motherboard at least, then sell the i5 and stuff to get the RAM/cooler, and maybe some 500GB NVME drive?
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YtYCL2

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer Xtreme Rev.2 Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($127.50 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $553.46
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3700x of course. 3600X (and 3800X now that we're on it) is for those looking to maximize memory/infinity fabric overclocking. Standard users are almost always better with 3600/3700X.

 

I'd opt for the 3700X

 

46 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

I have no idea why this board is only $127, it has the same VRM as the $199 TUF

TUF has a VRM 50% bigger, I think for $165?


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52 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Your 240mm AIO is fine, unless you just want to get rid of it

He probably needs a new AM4 mounting bracket for that Corsair AIO.

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1 minute ago, Deli said:

He probably needs a new AM4 mounting bracket for that Corsair AIO.

Corsair does sell am4 mounting kit if I remember and not sure if it is compatible with h100i v1.

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10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

3700x of course. 3600X (and 3800X now that we're on it) is for those looking to maximize memory/infinity fabric overclocking. Standard users are almost always better with 3600/3700X.

 

I'd opt for the 3700X

 

TUF has a VRM 50% bigger, I think for $165?

Why did I think it had the same VRM...Was probably thinking of the $299 vs $199 boards.

 

It appears that lot more X570 boards came out recently, or something because the whole pricing structure just changed.

 

Though the prime is still going to be alright at it's low cost.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/whMTwP/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus


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what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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1 minute ago, OlympicAssEater said:

Corsair does sell am4 mounting kit if I remember and not sure if it is compatible with h100i v1.

Also depends on how old the AIO is. If it's 3-4 years old already. May be a good idea to get a new cooler.

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2 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Though the prime is still going to be alright at it's low cost.

I dont like how its rear I/O resemble $50 boards but that's the only drawback imo


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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
17 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Why did I think it had the same VRM...Was probably thinking of the $299 vs $199 boards.

 

It appears that lot more X570 boards came out recently, or something because the whole pricing structure just changed.

 

Though the prime is still going to be alright at it's low cost.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/whMTwP/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus

Is a X570 board worth it over a B450? 


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48 minutes ago, 1van said:

What LGA1151 motherboard do you have? This can be interesting instead of switching to Ryzen :)

Asus z170-a. I took a look at it. It seems interesting but a little bit experimental yet. 


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20 minutes ago, Creed1 said:

Asus z170-a.

It's an OK board, should be able to run a Coffee Lake i7 without any problems. Although a new i7 might be more expensive than R5 3600 + motherboard.

 

This mod was experimental more than a year ago, not now.

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4 hours ago, Creed1 said:

Is a X570 board worth it over a B450? 

At only $125 you might as well go X570


I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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