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NVIDIA, I retract my apology. - GTX 1660 Super Review

It looks like SUPER is here to stay, because now even the GeForce GTX cards are getting in on the action. They may not be RTX cards, but could this be the bump Nvidia needs to make their users upgrade?

 

 

Buy a GTX 1660 SUPER:
On Amazon: https://geni.us/tjBI
On Newegg: https://lmg.gg/8KVYK

 

Buy a GTX 1660 Ti:
On Amazon: https://geni.us/PYJi
On Newegg: https://lmg.gg/8KVYr

 

Buy an RX 590:
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AKCHUALLY @LinusSebastian Radeon Image Sharpening looks fine, as long as you're starting at like 60-80% of your target resolution

 

and it's really only useful for 1440p 21:9, or 4k displays for the 5700 anyways.

 

 

23 minutes ago, GabenJr said:

 

Sounds like you guys should do a deep dive on image sharpening, on the RX 580 vs RX 5500/5700

 

It seems most useful for low end devices and the consoles instead of doing something like checkerboard rendering. So I don't know why it's not available for the APUs, and RX 550/560, maybe things will change if you call out AMD, or just reach out for a comment on that.

 

The next step IMO is getting nvidia's partial screen rendering done driver side, so the outer edges are softer but your performance is higher, and then getting all of that tech working with Radeon Chill, that way your laptop/tablet gaming experience can last a lot longer on battery.

 

ALSO you should totally combine image sharpening, with that HDMI cable that does AA, for ultimate image sharpening.

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So this card is only valid because of the price? So Nvidia actually cares about getting new stuff to the customer? Because just dumping down the TI in price would be cheaper for nvidia than to bring out a whole new card. But then again they only might have done it because they realized how much more you can make with the free advertising via tech tubers?

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23 minutes ago, pApA^LeGBa said:

So this card is only valid because of the price? So Nvidia actually cares about getting new stuff to the customer? Because just dumping down the TI in price would be cheaper for nvidia than to bring out a whole new card. But then again they only might have done it because they realized how much more you can make with the free advertising via tech tubers?

Or it failed to sell so they are rebranding them before manufacturing as a Ti?  Lots of possibilities but I hate this crap too - Im over here like, thanks R9 Fury for competing with the GTX 1070 in RDR2 lol.

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so still no one tried to overclock the 1660's memory and see how close it will be to the 1660S?

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32 minutes ago, pApA^LeGBa said:

So Nvidia actually cares about getting new stuff to the customer?

they care about profit!

the most profit for the expendature and time

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What a confusing video title.

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22 minutes ago, TrainFan2019 said:

What a confusing video title.

i did not watch it, i refuse to, that is my general policy

 

what did you find confusing about it?

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So this 1660 super has the same new NVENC chip in it that came with the RTX series cards....?

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Thank you Linus for being the only tech reviewer that actually points out the truth which is image sharpening looks horrible.

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On 11/10/2019 at 3:12 PM, Streetguru said:

AKCHUALLY @LinusSebastian Radeon Image Sharpening looks fine, as long as you're starting at like 60-80% of your target resolution

 

and it's really only useful for 1440p 21:9, or 4k displays for the 5700 anyways.

 

 

11 hours ago, TheNamelessOne said:

Thank you Linus for being the only tech reviewer that actually points out the truth which is image sharpening looks horrible.

 

I'd like to see more takes on this, also opinions related to image sharpening type. 

I tried Nvidea and ReShade when i had 1050ti and heavily disliked it, but despite the fact i'd usually prefer more manual control i rather liked Radeon Image Sharpening, i could take it or leave it but do infact like it if i find a DX12 supported game where its beneficial to spot badies in the distance.  That said with Nvidea's version i was running into latency/frame time issues with it which was a large reason i disliked it, and thats more the fault of the 1050ti being a very old and weak card for modern games. 

Also would be interesting to take into account two main type of gamers,
A.  The type that cares about frame-rates and clear image quality (so say high textures, maybe models, but most settings on low or medium), competitive style/fast paced gamers. 
B. And the type that likes fancy effects, shadows, reflections etc, usually more singleplayer, story based cinematic style gaming. 

Not that everybody sticks to only competitive or only singleplayer type games, but i find usually people often keep their graphic setups in games based off their preference (i prefer competitive style, and even if playing say Shadow of Tomb raider am likely to try to minimize latency and increase clarity at expensive of fancy effects)

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On 11/11/2019 at 11:41 PM, Otto_iii said:

 

 

I'd like to see more takes on this, also opinions related to image sharpening type. 

I tried Nvidea and ReShade when i had 1050ti and heavily disliked it, but despite the fact i'd usually prefer more manual control i rather liked Radeon Image Sharpening, i could take it or leave it but do infact like it if i find a DX12 supported game where its beneficial to spot badies in the distance.  That said with Nvidea's version i was running into latency/frame time issues with it which was a large reason i disliked it, and thats more the fault of the 1050ti being a very old and weak card for modern games. 

Also would be interesting to take into account two main type of gamers,
A.  The type that cares about frame-rates and clear image quality (so say high textures, maybe models, but most settings on low or medium), competitive style/fast paced gamers. 
B. And the type that likes fancy effects, shadows, reflections etc, usually more singleplayer, story based cinematic style gaming. 

Not that everybody sticks to only competitive or only singleplayer type games, but i find usually people often keep their graphic setups in games based off their preference (i prefer competitive style, and even if playing say Shadow of Tomb raider am likely to try to minimize latency and increase clarity at expensive of fancy effects)

I don't even touch the settings. Funnily enough, I recall playing the Witcher 3 at the lowest settings for weeks without even realizing. One day I asked myself "why do the moutains look like trash from a distance?" And then I went into the settings and "OOOOooooOOOOO". 

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