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Pentium 4 in 2019? Why are there people using it?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

So yesterday, I went over to my Non-gamer friend's house then he showed me his computer that his father bought him just a year ago..  and then we chatted a little bit and so, Then he showed me his computer, It was a retro-looking grey PC, and well it's Specifications were:

Pentium 4 3 GHz (no hyper-threading)

2 GB DDR1 RAM

ATI Radeon 7000

And then he told me that he is using that PC for doing homework and playing some games and so on... But what really grabbed my interest is that his father actually bought him that PC one year ago which was in 2018... But who the hell would be evil enough to buy his son a Pentium 4 in 2018?

So the main question is: Why are there some people still buying used Pentium 4 PCs nowadays?

Note: My friend's financial situation was average, so he wasn't broke, he could've bought and i7-4790k PC...

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Having a computer to do your homework with better than not having a computer. That being said, we cant really digest this particular situation without knowing a lot more context. 


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11 minutes ago, InfinityVive said:

So yesterday, I went over to my Non-gamer friend's house then he showed me his computer that his father bought him just a year ago..  and then we chatted a little bit and so, Then he showed me his computer, It was a retro-looking grey PC, and well it's Specifications were:

Pentium 4 3 GHz (no hyper-threading)

2 GB DDR1 RAM

ATI Radeon 7000

And then he told me that he is using that PC for doing homework and playing some games and so on... But what really grabbed my interest is that his father actually bought him that PC one year ago which was in 2018... But who the hell would be evil enough to buy his son a Pentium 4 in 2018?

So the main question is: Why are there some people still buying used Pentium 4 PCs nowadays?

Note: My friend's financial situation was average, so he wasn't broke, he could've bought and i7-4790k PC...

Why don't you ask the person who bought it, what their motivations were?

 

How would we possibly know?  Everyone's situation is different.

 

Like your situation, you keep asking about old tech and what works with what.  Why do you not buy new and current gen?


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21 minutes ago, InfinityVive said:

So yesterday, I went over to my Non-gamer friend's house then he showed me his computer that his father bought him just a year ago..  and then we chatted a little bit and so, Then he showed me his computer, It was a retro-looking grey PC, and well it's Specifications were:

Pentium 4 3 GHz (no hyper-threading)

2 GB DDR1 RAM

ATI Radeon 7000

And then he told me that he is using that PC for doing homework and playing some games and so on... But what really grabbed my interest is that his father actually bought him that PC one year ago which was in 2018... But who the hell would be evil enough to buy his son a Pentium 4 in 2018?

So the main question is: Why are there some people still buying used Pentium 4 PCs nowadays?

Note: My friend's financial situation was average, so he wasn't broke, he could've bought and i7-4790k PC...

Have you asked him why? Because no one here knows.


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Some people just buy a price, not a product. So instead of paying 500$ for a ''good'' PC that will last 5 years lets say, they pay 100$ and figure out a year later that they bought a bad product, and then by another one exactly the same price but with a little higher specs...

Or maybe they just save money for something else or don't think it's worth paying that much for a box of steel with electronics in it ?


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Well, I doubt anyone here would be able to give you a definitive answer for that. But maybe they just didn't know it was an old system when they bought it.

I mean, look at me: I have an FX-6300, a 7-year-old CPU. And I built this PC last year! Why? Because I didn't know it was such an old platform.


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Let's just hope they didn't fall for one of those scummy "3 GHz Gaming PC with dedicated 7000-series graphics!" listings, and that they actually got the machine for the appropriate price of free. It may also not be all that straightforward to judge a family's financial standing from the outside, people have different priorities, many use all they have (and then some) just to keep up public appearances

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43 minutes ago, InfinityVive said:

So yesterday, I went over to my Non-gamer friend's house then he showed me his computer that his father bought him just a year ago..  and then we chatted a little bit and so, Then he showed me his computer, It was a retro-looking grey PC, and well it's Specifications were:

Pentium 4 3 GHz (no hyper-threading)

2 GB DDR1 RAM

ATI Radeon 7000

And then he told me that he is using that PC for doing homework and playing some games and so on... But what really grabbed my interest is that his father actually bought him that PC one year ago which was in 2018... But who the hell would be evil enough to buy his son a Pentium 4 in 2018?

So the main question is: Why are there some people still buying used Pentium 4 PCs nowadays?

Note: My friend's financial situation was average, so he wasn't broke, he could've bought and i7-4790k PC...

Sounds clever actually. Buy your son a slow machine that is capable enough to run office to do homework, but not much else. 

 

"Sure son, you can have a computer but you may not like it"

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The same reason schools use Chromebooks instead of real computers; they're cheap and functional enough to do the job


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1 minute ago, J4C0B 4W3S0M3 said:

The same reason why schools buy laptops with Celeron processors in them. They're cheap and they get the job done

Exactly.

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1 minute ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

The same reason schools use Chromebooks instead of real computers; they're cheap and functional enough to do the job

Chromebooks are what I was refering to. Chromebook 11 (in 2017 at least, not sure about current gen) have Celeron CPUs.

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1 minute ago, J4C0B 4W3S0M3 said:

Chromebooks are what I was refering to. Chromebook 11 (in 2017 at least, not sure about current gen) have Celeron CPUs.

"Chromebook 11" could not be more vague, there are many 11" chromebooks


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11 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

"Chromebook 11" could not be more vague, there are many 11" chromebooks

Most of them use it as it is very power efficient. I dont think brand really matters.  I was thinking of the 2017 Dell 3180 in particular.

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5 minutes ago, J4C0B 4W3S0M3 said:

Most of them use it as it is very power efficient. I dont think brand really matters.  I was thinking of was the 2017 Dell 3180 in particular.

I guess yeah. The ones at my middle school have Core i3's (wow such performance i know)


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My guess - dad doesn't want son addicted to PC gaming, so gets him a potato.


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39 minutes ago, J4C0B 4W3S0M3 said:

The same reason why schools buy laptops with Celeron processors in them. They're cheap and they get the job done

 

38 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

The same reason schools use Chromebooks instead of real computers; they're cheap and functional enough to do the job

 

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2 hours ago, Tristerin said:

My guess - dad doesn't want son addicted to PC gaming, so gets him a potato.

Ye well, he has a PS4 that he plays on it very often... but I don't call him gamer because he only plays FIFA and PES on that PS4...

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Using a Pentium 4 in 2019, a freaking single core cpu with out HT. Oh god the horrors it must be. I mean the cpu must be at 100 % load the most of the time and the 2 GB ram gulp. I asume The cpu is from the 2001/2002 area as the GPU came out in 2001 or some where around that time. So its a 18 year old PC still used in 2019.

 

Thanks but no thanks. I cant say if its useful for him, but for me it had been utter useless and dispossed of a long time a go.

 

Well buying this pc in 2018 tells me that either his dad is one cheap ass dad or hi dit not know any thing about buying a pc or maybe the seller scammed him and made him believe it whas a "better" pc than it really whas. No matter what, poor kid. Single core cpu with very bad IPC and no HT in 2019, just the idea of using such pc in 2019 gives me the chills.

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22 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

Using a Pentium 4 in 2019, a freaking single core cpu with out HT. Oh god the horrors it must be. I mean the cpu must be at 100 % load the most of the time and the 2 GB ram gulp. I asume The cpu is from the 2001/2002 area as the GPU came out in 2001 or some where around that time. So its a 18 year old PC still used in 2019.

 

Thanks but no thanks. I cant say if its useful for him, but for me it had been utter useless and dispossed of a long time a go.

 

Well buying this pc in 2018 tells me that either his dad is one cheap ass dad or hi dit not know any thing about buying a pc or maybe the seller scammed him and made him believe it whas a "better" pc than it really whas. No matter what, poor kid. Single core cpu with very bad IPC and no HT in 2019, just the idea of using such pc in 2019 gives me the chills.

Perfect for a kid who already has a PS4 for gaming and just needs something to do his homework ?

 

Personally, I would put a lightweight Linux OS on it  (like Mint) to make it more usable and maintain my sanity.

 

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